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Apothecary Za'ki
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Posted - 2014.08.10 20:57:00 -
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basically pg and cpu nerf to stop them from stacking EHP useing a rifle AND also having a cloak.. on a scout it should be an Either/or not all 3 at once
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FEAST FOR crows
Horizons' Edge
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.08.10 21:23:00 -
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+1
If my sentinel has to become useless then so should the scouts.
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Pseudogenesis
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.08.10 21:56:00 -
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Useless, lol.
I have to max out cloak proficiency, PG upgrades, kincats, dampeners, range extenders, precision enhancers, shield extenders, codebreakers and nova knives in order to get a basically useful suit. You need advanced HMG and some armor plates.
QQ more
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Apothecary Za'ki
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Posted - 2014.08.10 22:13:00 -
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Pseudogenesis wrote:Useless, lol.
I have to max out cloak proficiency, PG upgrades, kincats, dampeners, range extenders, precision enhancers, shield extenders, codebreakers and nova knives in order to get a basically useful suit. You need advanced HMG and some armor plates.
QQ more
im a logi fuckwit not a sentinel. im just pissed at how easy scouts get it.. assault hp.. damn fast.. small hitbox(bugged on caldari) fast regen.. dont show up on Tacnet.. and so on.. and with assault buff Logi are now the laughing stock of the game now
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Jack 3enimble
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.08.10 22:35:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Pseudogenesis wrote:Useless, lol.
I have to max out cloak proficiency, PG upgrades, kincats, dampeners, range extenders, precision enhancers, shield extenders, codebreakers and nova knives in order to get a basically useful suit. You need advanced HMG and some armor plates.
QQ more im a logi fuckwit not a sentinel. im just pissed at how easy scouts get it.. assault hp.. damn fast.. small hitbox(bugged on caldari) fast regen.. dont show up on Tacnet.. and so on.. and with assault buff Logi are now the laughing stock of the game now
Caldari hitbox is fine fuckwit, CCP confirmed it. Scouts are bound to one weapon type, light weapon. Heavies are now bound to one aswell, heavy weapon and the QQ starts. If you read correctly logi's will be adressed in Delta. Don't show up on tacnet. Try dampening on your logi and you won't be picked up. |
FEAST FOR crows
Horizons' Edge
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.08.10 22:43:00 -
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Pseudogenesis wrote:Useless, lol.
I have to max out cloak proficiency, PG upgrades, kincats, dampeners, range extenders, precision enhancers, shield extenders, codebreakers and nova knives in order to get a basically useful suit. You need advanced HMG and some armor plates.
QQ more
Your joking right? Next to my Gallente sentinel I run a advanced minmitar scout with just feroscale plates, damage mods, and a combat rifle, and that thing is almost as good as my proto sent so you either suck or your full of crap.
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iKILLu osborne
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.08.11 00:08:00 -
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only thing the sentinel pg/cpu nerf does is prevent you from fitting full proto on a advanced sentinel(excluding caldari poor fat blob is gonna be obsolete after charlie r.i.p michilin man)
and prevents you from fitting proto rifles with proto mods so yeah welcome to the fitting nightmare the rest of us go thru you fat blobs
and i have a deep respect for logi's they sacrifice their slayability/survivability to support their team, but lets face it that is your role so quit trying to be a slayer and stfu.
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FEAST FOR crows
Horizons' Edge
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.08.11 00:38:00 -
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iKILLu osborne wrote:only thing the sentinel pg/cpu nerf does is prevent you from fitting full proto on a advanced sentinel(excluding caldari poor fat blob is gonna be obsolete after charlie r.i.p michilin man)
and prevents you from fitting proto rifles with proto mods so yeah welcome to the fitting nightmare the rest of us go thru you fat blobs.
I fully agree that the 10% proposed nerf was needed and had no problem with it I also liked the idea of getting rid of the light weapon using heavies by giving the Hmg fitting discount, but this pg and CPU nerf is more along the lines of 30% and is far too much.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.08.11 01:16:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:basically pg and cpu nerf to stop them from stacking EHP useing a rifle AND also having a cloak.. on a scout it should be an Either/or not all 3 at once
Find for me a Scout who can fit straight proto gear.
Then we can talk.
Shoot scout with yes.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
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Posted - 2014.08.11 01:33:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:basically pg and cpu nerf to stop them from stacking EHP useing a rifle AND also having a cloak.. on a scout it should be an Either/or not all 3 at once Find for me a Scout who can fit straight proto gear. Then we can talk.
they only need adv shotgun + prof as there is no damage increase goign to proto there.. thats one example. but those scouts have problems because they are always tryign to fit frisbees ( REs) and CLoak
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Crimson ShieId
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Posted - 2014.08.11 01:36:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:basically pg and cpu nerf to stop them from stacking EHP useing a rifle AND also having a cloak.. on a scout it should be an Either/or not all 3 at once Find for me a Scout who can fit straight proto gear. Then we can talk.
Gallente can fit straight proto, not a brick tanked suit obviously, one with a bit of Ewar, but it's doable with all the fitting reductions possible. It's not that hard actually, so, er... might want to specify what kind of prototype gear is being fit, as things like Ewar suits are very easy to make.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.08.11 01:49:00 -
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Crimson ShieId wrote:
Gallente can fit straight proto, not a brick tanked suit obviously, one with a bit of Ewar, but it's doable with all the fitting reductions possible. It's not that hard actually, so, er... might want to specify what kind of prototype gear is being fit, as things like Ewar suits are very easy to make.
I stand corrected. It can be done.
Just put together Gk.0 with straight, complex EWAR modules.
It would be a bad idea to use this suit in, but it is still possible to do.
Honest mistake on my part. I always run at least one KinCat and typically use a Shield Extender or two.
Shoot scout with yes.
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Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
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Posted - 2014.08.11 02:12:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:
Gallente can fit straight proto, not a brick tanked suit obviously, one with a bit of Ewar, but it's doable with all the fitting reductions possible. It's not that hard actually, so, er... might want to specify what kind of prototype gear is being fit, as things like Ewar suits are very easy to make.
I stand corrected. It can be done. Just put together Gk.0 with straight, complex EWAR modules. It would be a bad idea to use this suit in, but it is still possible to do. Honest mistake on my part. I always run at least one KinCat and typically use a Shield Extender or two.
Well, obviously a full Ewar suit can be made like that, those things are super easy to fit, but the one I did on Protofits was...
RE's
Cloak Field
CR
ScP
Shield Extender
Precision Enhancer
Kincat
2x Reactive Plates
Profile Dampener
Flux Grenade
Everything at prototype of course, but doing a fit like that is only possible with all the fitting reductions for the weapons. The Minmatar, surprisingly enough, did the fit better as the Gallente ran out of CPU.  But, yea... definitely not gonna brick a scout suit up and still use prototype.
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Malleus Malificorum
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.08.11 02:17:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Pseudogenesis wrote:Useless, lol.
I have to max out cloak proficiency, PG upgrades, kincats, dampeners, range extenders, precision enhancers, shield extenders, codebreakers and nova knives in order to get a basically useful suit. You need advanced HMG and some armor plates.
QQ more im a logi fuckwit not a sentinel. im just pissed at how easy scouts get it.. assault hp.. damn fast.. small hitbox(bugged on caldari) fast regen.. dont show up on Tacnet.. and so on.. and with assault buff Logi are now the laughing stock of the game now
While scouts have gotten a lot better than they were in 1.6/1.7, they still by no means have it 'easy'. You might know that if you actually played a scout. Profile dampening is practically a mandatory skill, as is maxing the scout skill and putting a decent chunk into CPU/PG, then you need armor or shields (as well as hp upgrades) and you still have a fairly fragile suit.
Yes scouts got powerful because they were buffed in practically every area at once while many other suits received no attention, but that still by no means makes them insanely easy.
On top of that, the scouts that you see running around bricked out were never interested in scouts in the first place - they wanted a suit for slaying in and with the changes to assaults that are coming most of them will migrate back to assault suits. |
JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2014.08.11 02:18:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Pseudogenesis wrote:Useless, lol.
I have to max out cloak proficiency, PG upgrades, kincats, dampeners, range extenders, precision enhancers, shield extenders, codebreakers and nova knives in order to get a basically useful suit. You need advanced HMG and some armor plates.
QQ more im a logi fuckwit not a sentinel. im just pissed at how easy scouts get it.. assault hp.. damn fast.. small hitbox(bugged on caldari) fast regen.. dont show up on Tacnet.. and so on.. and with assault buff Logi are now the laughing stock of the game now
http://i.imgur.com/sSziTM5.png
I see you are one of those idiots that believe cal scout hitbox is bugged, very sad.
And good, logis are not meant to engage in firefights and have good survival.
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Pseudogenesis
Subdreddit
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Posted - 2014.08.11 02:25:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Pseudogenesis wrote:Useless, lol.
I have to max out cloak proficiency, PG upgrades, kincats, dampeners, range extenders, precision enhancers, shield extenders, codebreakers and nova knives in order to get a basically useful suit. You need advanced HMG and some armor plates.
QQ more im a logi fuckwit not a sentinel. im just pissed at how easy scouts get it.. assault hp.. damn fast.. small hitbox(bugged on caldari) fast regen.. dont show up on Tacnet.. and so on.. and with assault buff Logi are now the laughing stock of the game now
So you admit that you don't play sentinel, yet know exactly what the classes need to be balanced? Do you also not play scouts? I might start not playing a lot more if it will grant me your infinite wisdom.
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Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
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Posted - 2014.08.11 02:27:00 -
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Quote:And good, logis are not meant to engage in firefights and have good survival, your fault for speccing support, want a combat based class? Use a basic med frame or spec another suit.
They still can do it quite easily, Logi suits just aren't going to be able to outdo assaults anymore with the coming buffs.
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ladwar
HEARTS OF PHOENIX
2032
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Posted - 2014.08.11 02:28:00 -
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It hp or ewar, cloaking is their bonus and everyone needs a "rifle". So whats the problem here?
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JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2014.08.11 02:34:00 -
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Crimson ShieId wrote:Quote:And good, logis are not meant to engage in firefights and have good survival, your fault for speccing support, want a combat based class? Use a basic med frame or spec another suit. They still can do it quite easily, Logi suits just aren't going to be able to outdo assaults anymore with the coming buffs.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1993
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Posted - 2014.08.11 03:05:00 -
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Fine but only if we only have to use one dampener to get under all scans and the shotgun gets a range buff
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Deathonswift
Kartharax
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Posted - 2014.08.11 04:36:00 -
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To be honest, the only people who stand to lose something are those who run the heavies becuase of their ability to mow people down easily. Hopefully, after charlie, heavies will regain a bit of the status they had in beta. What I mean by that is:
Beta: " Shite! They've got an F'n HEAVY!!! We need some Tanks!"
Today: " Hmph! Looks like they got heavy... Anyone got one of those Shotguns? Or an RE?"
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.08.11 10:06:00 -
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Deathonswift wrote:To be honest, the only people who stand to lose something are those who run the heavies becuase of their ability to mow people down easily. Hopefully, after charlie, heavies will regain a bit of the status they had in beta. What I mean by that is:
Beta: " Shite! They've got an F'n HEAVY!!! We need some Tanks!"
Today: " Hmph! Looks like they got heavy... Anyone got one of those Shotguns? Or an RE?"
Actually dedicated heavies will gain something. Since we all rock the fitting skills, we will be fine. We will also gain proper assault targets and support.
Back in beta the HMG heavy was strongest backed by a logi and a pack of assaults who could do the killing while the heavy drew fire. Then revive and rep the heavy, or just rep him and move to next group of red dots.
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Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.11 10:52:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Deathonswift wrote:To be honest, the only people who stand to lose something are those who run the heavies becuase of their ability to mow people down easily. Hopefully, after charlie, heavies will regain a bit of the status they had in beta. What I mean by that is:
Beta: " Shite! They've got an F'n HEAVY!!! We need some Tanks!"
Today: " Hmph! Looks like they got heavy... Anyone got one of those Shotguns? Or an RE?" Actually dedicated heavies will gain something. Since we all rock the fitting skills, we will be fine. We will also gain proper assault targets and support. Back in beta the HMG heavy was strongest backed by a logi and a pack of assaults who could do the killing while the heavy drew fire. Then revive and rep the heavy, or just rep him and move to next group of red dots. Heavies make phenomenal door kickers. But it is a trait best capitalized upon by fast movers and killers.
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