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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.09 20:43:00 -
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I come on the forums and everyone is qqing about scouts
"Scouts are op because they are to fast"
"Scouts are op because they can same hp as a assault"
"Scouts are op because they can use a cloak"
"Scouts are op because they have the smallest hit box"
"Scouts are op because they have the best scans and dampening"
That is all I"' hearing and today I'm here to get a few things straight to all the scrubs that talk out of their a$$ without having any knowledge about how a scout work.
Yes some scouts can hp tank to the point they have 600 hp, but by doing that they give up all aspects of speed to do so, by adding armor plates they get all movement restricted so now they walk slower, run slower, and strafe slower.
Yes a scout can have the fastest speeds in the game, they are supposed to have the best speed in the game since they are scouts, but to gain any extra speed they have to give up any kind of extra hp they could have to gain the extra speed.
Yes a scout can use a cloak because cloaks are ment to help a scout do its job, which is to use stealth to move around the map but again if they use a cloak the cpu and pg costs restrict the higher end weapons and mods we might use. even though a scout has a reduced fitting cost for cloaks.
Yes a scout has the smallest hit box because they are the smallest suit, so a smaller hit box is to be expected. If a scout had the same hit box as an assault or logi or heavy suit then it would never be able do anything at all.
Yes scouts have the best eWAR skills because again its there job to be able see everything around them and relay those details back to there squad/team o to help them the best they could.
What most of you don't understand is that a scout that is being sneaky and hacking objectives, taking out threats and scanning the entire are he is in, is a scout doing its job. In name a scout is supposed to be sneaky, stealthy and unseen at all times or he is bad at being a scout.
And as for these "wall hacks" that you speak of, hits the same as the whole "head glitch" thing that people complain about with snipers, its called rendering. |
843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.10 00:09:00 -
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Crimson ShieId wrote:Quote:Yes a scout can use a cloak because cloaks are ment to help a scout do its job, which is to use stealth to move around the map but again if they use a cloak the cpu and pg costs restrict the higher end weapons and mods we might use. even though a scout has a reduced fitting cost for cloaks. You must use a Minmatar Scout, because that's the only one in the game who actually has fitting issues. Every other scout can fit proto across the board without much of an issue. Good stuff though, but you're not going to get people to stop QQing about scouts with a single post. Hopefully the assault buff will change things around a bit, but I'm sure people will still complain about getting Nova Knifed or shotgunned in the back by cloaked scouts.
No proto suit can fit proto everything and the game was designed to be that way, even with max fitting bonus to eveything you equip you can't get full prototype suits( meaning proto suit, proto mods, proto equipment and proto weapons). |
843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.10 01:35:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Smoky The Bear wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:The problem is scouts and heavies are the only thing good right now. Hell scouts even get more eq slots than assaults. I have no problem with scouts once the assault gets buffed it'll be fine. whatta joke.. go back to Call of Booty .. You specd into assault so you could take advantage of the flavor of the week weapons.. You got buyers remorse brah? You mad cuz you have to aim before you 1 shot me in my scout suit? Buffing the assault suits is exactly wHat kind of nonsense I expected to hear when they attempted to balance the weapons.. Pffhhhh loser Haha you know nothing kid QFT.. Unlike you I don't chase fotm I have all assaults proto and all rifles pro 5.. It's called being a slayer not chasing fotm like you. Actually cuz of this I hope you scouts get nerfed hard cya fotm chasers.
If your comment is directed at me ill have you know i have been a scout since closed beta and have never diverted from it
yes i have bop suits for the other classes that i use but i have no skills in there operations.
I have been through when scouts were the worst thing to use and when they were average to use, now that they are good to use and everyone wants to jump on the band wagon I get accused of being a FoTM chaser. I have never chased after a FoTM and never will. |
843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.10 02:58:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:843-Vika wrote:I come on the forums and everyone is qqing about scouts
"Scouts are op because they are to fast"
"Scouts are op because they can same hp as a assault"
"Scouts are op because they can use a cloak"
"Scouts are op because they have the smallest hit box"
"Scouts are op because they have the best scans and dampening"
Those first two points are the only things that count, the rest are all garbage complaints. Why? Because of their speed, they can literally strafe THROUGH a gunfire stream. I tested this with a HMG on a strafing scout. he passed through the stream 4 times, and took 0 damage. This gives the term "speed tanking" viability. Pair that up with the HP being the same and you have a character with an effective health of about 1000 from faulty bullet stream detection. Basically making their health on par with heavies if they try to evade. This effect is a KNOWN bug, and used to affect Assault suits a good number of patches ago until the base speed of all suits were reduced. One used to be able to strafe into, or out of, a fight without taking damage.
I myself run scout and have never straffed in and out of any hmg fire, shoot if I even tried it i would usually end up dead. |
843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
187
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Posted - 2014.08.10 03:28:00 -
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Grimm Hammer wrote:843-Vika wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:843-Vika wrote:I come on the forums and everyone is qqing about scouts
"Scouts are op because they are to fast"
"Scouts are op because they can same hp as a assault"
"Scouts are op because they can use a cloak"
"Scouts are op because they have the smallest hit box"
"Scouts are op because they have the best scans and dampening"
Those first two points are the only things that count, the rest are all garbage complaints. Why? Because of their speed, they can literally strafe THROUGH a gunfire stream. I tested this with a HMG on a strafing scout. he passed through the stream 4 times, and took 0 damage. This gives the term "speed tanking" viability. Pair that up with the HP being the same and you have a character with an effective health of about 1000 from faulty bullet stream detection. Basically making their health on par with heavies if they try to evade. This effect is a KNOWN bug, and used to affect Assault suits a good number of patches ago until the base speed of all suits were reduced. One used to be able to strafe into, or out of, a fight without taking damage. I myself run scout and have never straffed in and out of any hmg fire, shoot if I even tried it i would usually end up dead. ive seen it happen a couple of times in pubs/FW but i usually chalk it up to lag or latencey
Now that i would agree on but to intentionally cross throught it 4 times with 0 damage can't be true unless it was outside the optimal range of them hmg
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