J4yne C0bb
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.09 03:42:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:Jack 3enimble wrote:Kyr Kitar wrote:I watched halfway through. You are literally camping a spawnpoint at first. Then when you start shooting the little enclave where the redberries spawn your ENTIRE team is spawncamping their uplink there. A single grenade in there means the end of the uplink and you are free to claim the point and win the match...
This type of play saddens me. It doesn't make you a good player, it just means you are good at shooting people that have spawned very recently and are trying to establish themselves with their surroundings. This. It's not your RR that's scrubby. It's your tactic against noobs.. *enter slow clap here* Because of people like you I'm ALWAYS the one who hacks a camped CRU or destroys the camped link. It's also the fault of the blueberrys that keep spawning in there...
Yeah, this. There is no spawn camping in Dust. Camping implies that the person who spawned had no choice other than to spawn at that point. You always have a choice where to spawn in Dust, even if it's at your redline. If you are dumb enough to keep spawning on the same link (as they did in that vid), sucks to be you. Pick another link, or spawn in the redline with uplinks and deploy your own.
Camping a CRU or uplink is a legitimate tactic, since you can win by clone count as well as MCC timer. Learn to recognise when it's occurring, and avoid it. Objective is red, but the nearby CRU has been blue for 2-3 minutes? Spawn camp. The kill feed scrolling red, red, red, red, while there are uplinks on the field near the objective? Spawn camp.
You noob smurfs need to stop blaming vets and learn to recognize the signs, like we all learned to do back in beta. it's part of the game -- the only way to become good at Dust is to die a whole hell of a lot. Just make sure you learn something from each death.
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J4yne C0bb
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.09 20:40:00 -
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Jack 3enimble wrote:J4yne C0bb wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Jack 3enimble wrote:Kyr Kitar wrote:I watched halfway through. You are literally camping a spawnpoint at first. Then when you start shooting the little enclave where the redberries spawn your ENTIRE team is spawncamping their uplink there. A single grenade in there means the end of the uplink and you are free to claim the point and win the match...
This type of play saddens me. It doesn't make you a good player, it just means you are good at shooting people that have spawned very recently and are trying to establish themselves with their surroundings. This. It's not your RR that's scrubby. It's your tactic against noobs.. *enter slow clap here* Because of people like you I'm ALWAYS the one who hacks a camped CRU or destroys the camped link. It's also the fault of the blueberrys that keep spawning in there... Yeah, this. There is no spawn camping in Dust. Camping implies that the person who spawned had no choice other than to spawn at that point. You always have a choice where to spawn in Dust, even if it's at your redline. If you are dumb enough to keep spawning on the same link (as they did in that vid), sucks to be you. Pick another link, or spawn in the redline with uplinks and deploy your own. Camping a CRU or uplink is a legitimate tactic, since you can win by clone count as well as MCC timer. Learn to recognise when it's occurring, and avoid it. Objective is red, but the nearby CRU has been blue for 2-3 minutes? Spawn camp. The kill feed scrolling red, red, red, red, while there are uplinks on the field near the objective? Spawn camp. You noob smurfs need to stop blaming vets and learn to recognize the signs, like we all learned to do back in beta. it's part of the game -- the only way to become good at Dust is to die a whole hell of a lot. Just make sure you learn something from each death. LOL at calling random people noobs. Even if you haven't played against them. To me camping links is Ambush. Dom is playing the objective, or give the other team the chance to play the objective. As for dumbass above, recognizing the game is also about recognizing the team you're facing. There were plenty of signs in the vid...
There are a lot of problems with Dust, granted -- protostomping and matchmaking being at the top of my personal list. But neither of these reasons explain why that team got creamed. The reason they got stomped is because they played badly.
How many redberries was it that walked right by the OP (ducked behind cover, but still pretty open) who ended up shot in the back? Completely their fault.
How many redberries kept on spawning in that alcove by the pipes on the objective, who kept on getting slaughtered? How many of those redberries on the long walkway behind the objective, when the OP was RRing them from the square platform adjacent to the null cannon, bothered to even shoot back at him? The OP camped that platform for minutes on end, and not a single one of them went over to take care of him. If I was on that team, the first thing I would have done would be to sneak around behind him and put a few bullets in his head.
On that walkway, I saw logis whose only purpose in their short lives seemed to be repping their heavies, which frankly, is futile in that situation, since heavies generally don't have the right weapon or range to fend off an attack from that platform. Those logis best method of protecting their heavies at that point would have been to drop reps and start firing at the OP. But I'll bet you .02 ISK those heavies were on coms whining "rep me, rep me, I'm getting shot, whaaaaaaah!", when they should have been encouraging their logis to drop reps and provide cover fire.
You'll get no argument from me that matchmaking/protostomping is a real problem in this game, but that aside, that team lost because of bad tactics. Not one of those mercs were playing enough attention to their surroundings, which seems to be a real problem these days. The OP just hastened their demise.
Situation awareness is more valuable that a proto weapon. Every time.
Min Logi | aka Punch R0ckgroin, fatman
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