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Silver Strike44
Capital Acquisitions LLC
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.08 07:33:00 -
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All of this is assuming proto suits and maxed cores. In charlie, cal assault has one more high and low slot than their scout counterpart. If the extra high slot is used for an energizer, and the low slot is used for a regulator, then the assault and scout have very similar shield recharge rates and regen delays. At this point, the two suits have the same number of slots, barring the scouts extra equipment. The base stats are the same, as well, except the scout has better ewar and movement related stats while the assault has more raw hp as well as its reload speed bonus. The assault fitting reduction basically makes up for the cpu and pg used up by the two modules.
So, the scout has speed and ewar while the assault has hp and a racial weapon bonus (that should be changed in the future). Balance? At least between these two suits? Thoughts?
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JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
243
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Posted - 2014.08.08 07:37:00 -
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Silver Strike44 wrote:All of this is assuming proto suits and maxed cores. In charlie, cal assault has one more high and low slot than their scout counterpart. If the extra high slot is used for an energizer, and the low slot is used for a regulator, then the assault and scout have very similar shield recharge rates and regen delays. At this point, the two suits have the same number of slots, barring the scouts extra equipment. The base stats are the same, as well, except the scout has better ewar and movement related stats while the assault has more raw hp as well as its reload speed bonus. The assault fitting reduction basically makes up for the cpu and pg used up by the two modules.
So, the scout has speed and ewar while the assault has hp and a racial weapon bonus (that should be changed in the future). Balance? At least between these two suits? Thoughts?
Balance I guess.
600 shieods 180 armor 52 rep rate vs 452 shields 87 armor 50 rep rate, or assault 509 shields 86 rep rate.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
15660
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Posted - 2014.08.08 09:52:00 -
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I'm fine with the Calassault being a hell of a lot tougher than the Calscout. It really ought to be.
The Calscout has a load of strong EWAR, anyway.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
243
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Posted - 2014.08.08 09:57:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I'm fine with the Calassault being a hell of a lot tougher than the Calscout. It really ought to be.
The Calscout has a load of strong EWAR, anyway.
What would you prefer?
600 shields 52 rep rate, ir 509 shields, 86 rep rate, 1.6s shield delay.
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Chunky Munkey
5108
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Posted - 2014.08.08 10:00:00 -
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Meh
Destiny won't kill Dust.
CCP already did that.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
15660
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Posted - 2014.08.08 10:15:00 -
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JRleo jr wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I'm fine with the Calassault being a hell of a lot tougher than the Calscout. It really ought to be.
The Calscout has a load of strong EWAR, anyway. What would you prefer? 600 shields 52 rep rate, ir 509 shields, 86 rep rate, 1.6s shield delay.
600 shields 52 rep rate.
That rep rate is so fast you're unlikely to really need more.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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xAckie
Ghost. Mob
444
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Posted - 2014.08.08 11:34:00 -
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if you are after solely shield and shield regen go cal scout you get the ewar bonuses and two equipment slots.
use the cal assault with two damage mods on |
JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
243
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Posted - 2014.08.08 12:23:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:JRleo jr wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I'm fine with the Calassault being a hell of a lot tougher than the Calscout. It really ought to be.
The Calscout has a load of strong EWAR, anyway. What would you prefer? 600 shields 52 rep rate, ir 509 shields, 86 rep rate, 1.6s shield delay. 600 shields 52 rep rate. That rep rate is so fast you're unlikely to really need more.
But then 100 hp isn't too much, vs regen times...
50 hp/s X12s=600
80 hp/s X7s=600 but hp is 500 so, 6s to regen, or 7.6s to regen full with delays...
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DeathwindRising
ROGUE RELICS
VP Gaming Alliance
536
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Posted - 2014.09.07 08:59:00 -
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JRleo jr wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I'm fine with the Calassault being a hell of a lot tougher than the Calscout. It really ought to be.
The Calscout has a load of strong EWAR, anyway. What would you prefer? 600 shields 52 rep rate, or 509 shields, 86 rep rate, 1.6s shield delay.
those are two very different fits for two very different situations
the first fit is for long range open combat with limited cover. its good also against weaker targets like scouts.
the second fit is for when youll be facing multiple targets one after another. its not as good in open combat because you cant make use of the recharge under fire, but its good when you have nearby cover.
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
1362
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Posted - 2014.09.07 11:54:00 -
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JRleo jr wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I'm fine with the Calassault being a hell of a lot tougher than the Calscout. It really ought to be.
The Calscout has a load of strong EWAR, anyway. What would you prefer? 600 shields 52 rep rate, or 509 shields, 86 rep rate, 1.6s shield delay. both fits work well i go with the 627 shields on my fit. its hard to make that 509 fit properly with the way i have my suit built.
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
4068
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Posted - 2014.09.07 11:58:00 -
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Hurr durr i could aswell bricktank amarr/gallente scouts and get aswell high tanking numbers. Thing is you will allways get more HP on assaults and thats the point.
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Mex-0
Comander's Capital
39
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Posted - 2014.09.07 12:10:00 -
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Scouts cause of the scan and smaller hitframe
I don't use OP weapons, I AM OP.
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Mejt0
The Only Survivor.
452
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Posted - 2014.09.07 15:11:00 -
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Cal assault with 500shields, almost 80or something regen with 2-3 delays or lower.
Cal assault is good.
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Markiplier fan.
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
482
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Posted - 2014.09.07 16:10:00 -
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A gnat has wings and a bee has wings. Both flies but one stings and the other doesn't. In other words, who gives a flying ****? Dude stop looking for crap to tweak and tune.
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Sylwester Dziewiecki
Interregnum.
364
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Posted - 2014.09.07 16:16:00 -
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Silver Strike44 wrote:
So, the scout has speed and ewar while the assault has hp and a racial weapon bonus (that should be changed in the future). Balance? At least between these two suits? Thoughts?
EWAR do not mean much when someone knows that you are there and he is prepared for you. Speed advantage depend highly on terrain, it may mean nothing if you are in corridor environment. I think that HP is always something solid in Dust, and if someone attacks you unexpectedly not your 'skill' but fat HP may save your life.
Gallente Speed Scout.
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Coleman Gray
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
1207
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Posted - 2014.09.07 16:24:00 -
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The only reason any scout seems "as tough" as their assault counterpart is their horrendously small hitbox which people abuse lol.
Original Commando, before all you posers just saying
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