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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
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Posted - 2014.08.08 00:24:00 -
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Less of a constant flow, more of a pulse thing.
I know hotfix hotfix  but as a cal heavy I really don't care about armor rep tools.
I'm sure other shielded fat guys feel the same 
"Tossin uplinks and runnin fer my life" ~ Gunny blownapart
"Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
3886
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Posted - 2014.08.08 00:42:00 -
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I want that for a long time.
They say when you die you see a white light which then forms the line of:
"GAME OVER! PLEASE INSERT COIN"
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Kallas Hallytyr
Skullbreakers
704
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Posted - 2014.08.08 01:24:00 -
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Give all current rep tools a 1hp/s shield kick starter so shields are always regenerating while being repped. Bam, Shield rep tools.
Alt of Halla Murr.
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
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Posted - 2014.08.08 01:39:00 -
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specialization prevents god tooling. need to stay separated
"Tossin uplinks and runnin fer my life" ~ Gunny blownapart
"Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
12701
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Posted - 2014.08.08 01:44:00 -
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Devadander wrote: Less of a constant flow, more of a pulse thing. I know hotfix hotfix but as a cal heavy I really don't care about armor rep tools. I'm sure other shielded fat guys feel the same
Game needs Shield Transporters, just like HAV need Ancillary Reppers.
"We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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Jack 3enimble
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.08.08 03:57:00 -
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Kallas Hallytyr wrote:Give all current rep tools a 1hp/s shield kick starter so shields are always regenerating while being repped. Bam, Shield rep tools.
This! I can rep on my sentinel. It's that prick with the milia AR that pings you from 100m to restart the delay. we need a tool that bypasses recharge delay. |
Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
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Posted - 2014.08.08 05:39:00 -
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Armor rep tools function with or without support from module reps.
I DO NOT support adding shield rep to the armor tool.
I can make my cal-sent rep like 70-something shield as is, but not forcibly. (outside of hugging my own flux)
Handheld shield boosters should OVERRIDE suits delay, but give shield in pulses like old vehicle modules.
I'm thinking 1.5~2 second pulses, no more than 15/25/30 given base regen on a well fitted cal suit.
1st edit (with initial charge being immediate, and a relock speed same as pulse delay to prevent quick pulsing)
2nd edit (with lower WP reward)
"Tossin uplinks and runnin fer my life" ~ Gunny blownapart
"Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever
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Malkai Inos
Any Given Day
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Posted - 2014.08.08 09:16:00 -
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Bypassing (and to a lesser degree jumpstarting) innate shield delays, especially with flat rep values instead of relative percentages, always carries the problem that armor and hybrid tanks would benefit from such a mechanic aswell. The same isn't true for armor reps on shield due to how shield is always depleted before armor.
Flat shield reps still soak armor damage taken, thus scale with armor buffer and regen just as with shield buffer, making the tool equally useful for both tank types.
I'd prefer a remote hardener tool that significantly boosts shield resistances (in the 15% region, stackable with penalties). This means a large increase in effective regen and buffer as every shield point is worth more.
This way one will have to be shield focused to benefit the most from this tool in the same way armor reps rarely help shield tanks (unless you run heavy or hybrid/brick i.e. stack armor aswell). It also gives a nice duality where armor tanks with reps are good for prolonged engagements (efficacy of reps inversely proportional to incoming dps) and shield tanks with hardeners can withstand short bursts of extreme damage better (linear scaling).
You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
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Posted - 2014.08.08 09:45:00 -
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My first thought was a hardener tool. I scrapped that idea quickly. The armor crowd would erupt into cries for their own.
I like your science guy approach, but the reality is dust players exploit anything not nailed down.
(hollow crates at Charlie? member dem?)
Shield repper can only rep shield, and armor, armor. AND LAST ONE FIRED BOOTS ORIGINAL STREAM, zero dual streaming 
Now yesyesyes, an amarr could try to benefit from a shield tool, but by keeping rates low, suits that slap extenders and have a 15hps shield regen are gonna fall to any ole iron. Much like I could try to stick with an armor rope while I'm cal sent.... but I won't. I've got a cardiac on the right so I can cry FORWARD
I don't dual tank my cal fits, I want my mobility. I learned long ago I'm an oddball though.
I would like to kick in a door once in a while though and live long enough to spread the word...
I don't want a god tool or a win button. I just want to climb on the monkey bars too guys 
"Tossin uplinks and runnin fer my life" ~ Gunny blownapart
"Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
53
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Posted - 2014.08.08 09:53:00 -
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Hmm
Afterthought ~ tools would need fitting restrictions much like vehicle turbo, or cloaks. No dual tooling 
"Tossin uplinks and runnin fer my life" ~ Gunny blownapart
"Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
275
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Posted - 2014.08.08 09:56:00 -
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Devadander wrote: Less of a constant flow, more of a pulse thing. I know hotfix hotfix but as a cal heavy I really don't care about armor rep tools. I'm sure other shielded fat guys feel the same
you havnt seen how scarly OP proto cal sentinel shields will be in charlie?
> LogiBro in Training
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
275
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Posted - 2014.08.08 09:58:00 -
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Devadander wrote:Hmm Afterthought ~ tools would need fitting restrictions much like vehicle turbo, or cloaks. No dual tooling
F that.. dual tool for life sucka!
> LogiBro in Training
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
53
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Posted - 2014.08.08 10:02:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Devadander wrote: Less of a constant flow, more of a pulse thing. I know hotfix hotfix but as a cal heavy I really don't care about armor rep tools. I'm sure other shielded fat guys feel the same you havnt seen how scarly OP proto cal sentinel shields will be in charlie?
With 4/1 slot loadout (zero change) .. and zero changes to extenders .... I'm gonna go out on a limb and say ........ they aren't changing at all
"Tossin uplinks and runnin fer my life" ~ Gunny blownapart
"Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever
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Snake Sellors
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
272
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Posted - 2014.08.08 19:07:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Devadander wrote: Less of a constant flow, more of a pulse thing. I know hotfix hotfix but as a cal heavy I really don't care about armor rep tools. I'm sure other shielded fat guys feel the same you havnt seen how scarly OP proto cal sentinel shields will be in charlie?
erm.... what?
don't think i saw anything new for the calsent at all...
as for the shield tool i think that a shield regulator tool is the way forward, it would literally just kickstart the shield reps on the heavy suit when they duck into cover, so because it doesn't give direct hp it won't be op, it will still use the rep stats of the shields it's repairing so energisers, rechargers, etc will still be meaningful.
the logi can keep it on the heavy as if it were an armour rep for their guardian points.
and speaking as a calsent it would mean after getting fluxed, staying in the lof for too long, etc it would be invaluable for getting the main portion of health back up, and even more so on non depleted shields.
if you go for any thing that adds small amounts of health then when the first bit of healthgoes on a stray bullet will reset the delay to a non depleted delay which is longer... a problem we already have.
ever noticed your depleted shields taking far too long to start repairs? |
The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
3895
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Posted - 2014.08.08 21:17:00 -
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Shields can force shields to regen. Prime example are shield boosters for vehicles and the previously removed shield transporters for vehicles where you could aswell choose from remote armor reps or remote shield modules.
They say when you die you see a white light which then forms the line of:
"GAME OVER! PLEASE INSERT COIN"
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Sly Marb0
Screaming Falcons
9
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Posted - 2014.08.08 21:20:00 -
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Kallas Hallytyr wrote:Give all current rep tools a 1hp/s shield kick starter so shields are always regenerating while being repped. Bam, Shield rep tools.
This with specialized versions. Shield repping more needs the option instead of entirely new equipment. |
Jack 3enimble
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
145
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Posted - 2014.08.08 22:04:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Devadander wrote: Less of a constant flow, more of a pulse thing. I know hotfix hotfix but as a cal heavy I really don't care about armor rep tools. I'm sure other shielded fat guys feel the same you havnt seen how scarly OP proto cal sentinel shields will be in charlie?
Do you even use a Cal sentinel? What do you mean OP? Please tell me I like to hear this one. If a sentinel would be OP it sure as hell will not be the Cal. |
Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
57
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Posted - 2014.08.09 00:13:00 -
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^ so much this
"Tossin uplinks and runnin fer my life" ~ Gunny blownapart
"Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
57
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Posted - 2014.08.09 00:24:00 -
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Sly Marb0 wrote:Kallas Hallytyr wrote:Give all current rep tools a 1hp/s shield kick starter so shields are always regenerating while being repped. Bam, Shield rep tools. This with specialized versions. Shield repping more needs the option instead of entirely new equipment.
If you do this nobody will specialize.
Am I typing martian?
CCP adds shield whatever to the armor tool EVERYONE IN ANY SUIT can benefit... how is that special?
Do you really want to fight an amarr sent with 3 shield AND armor ropes on him at once????
Team fortress anyone?
http://youtu.be/36lSzUMBJnc
3:10 ... that's what you get if you combine shield and armor. I'm starting to believe that's what people want.
If thats the case, I would rather keep fitting biotics.
"Tossin uplinks and runnin fer my life" ~ Gunny blownapart
"Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever
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