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Bormir1r Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 698	Posted - 2014.08.07 18:08:00 - [1] - Quote I don't really understand why this weapon was nerfed in the first place? It isn't the worst sidearm, but it's definitely not great either. Here's (IMO) my ranking of sidearms: SMG Magsec Scrambler Pistol NK Bolt Pistol Flaylock Pistol Ion Pistol So what are we going to do about sidearms now that Charlie is about to hit soon? Sometimes, when I close my eyes, I can't see anything. "One does not simply" run like a Raptor such as an mk.0.
Bojo The Mighty Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno 4919	Posted - 2014.08.07 18:10:00 - [2] - Quote I will say that in most scenarios SMG is hands down better than a Scrambler Pistol but really it is good where it is now. No more , no less. When ScP was nerfed everything was. CCP was trying to buff TTK. Just as long as the dice keep rollin, the hoes keep hoein, and the money keeps flowin!
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 2628	Posted - 2014.08.07 18:26:00 - [3] - Quote I personally enjoyed the scr pistol before the nerf. I don't like the current ROF, i would give back its ROF, but change the skill bonus, 13 shots are a little too much. I've found the perfect solution, normalize at 7-8 shots per clip, keep the current ROF, skill give a bonus to ROF. I'm a genius. EDIT: I would use Ion pistol, but i don't like weapon which shoots when i release the trigger. PSN: ogamega "Dust is full of communists who despise people with enough isk to buy expensive items" Uncesored FUCK
Bojo The Mighty Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno 4922	Posted - 2014.08.07 18:33:00 - [4] - Quote shaman oga wrote: I personally enjoyed the scr pistol before the nerf. I don't like the current ROF, i would give back its ROF, but change the skill bonus, 13 shots are a little too much. I've found the perfect solution, normalize at 7-8 shots per clip, keep the current ROF, skill give a bonus to ROF. I'm a genius. Yeah but if we go back to old RoF it's just the same pray & spray crap everyone abused but was never talked about. It's good right now, requires skill but is still very rewarding. Just as long as the dice keep rollin, the hoes keep hoein, and the money keeps flowin!
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 2628	Posted - 2014.08.07 18:48:00 - [5] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: shaman oga wrote: I personally enjoyed the scr pistol before the nerf. I don't like the current ROF, i would give back its ROF, but change the skill bonus, 13 shots are a little too much. I've found the perfect solution, normalize at 7-8 shots per clip, keep the current ROF, skill give a bonus to ROF. I'm a genius. Yeah but if we go back to old RoF it's just the same pray & spray crap everyone abused but was never talked about. It's good right now, requires skill but is still very rewarding. But i'm a noob, i live for spray and pray Well, i like pistols, i have proficiency in both ScrP and bolt pistol, probably i was confortable with the old ROF and now i can't enter the mood. It's strange, current ROF is both fast and slow, my finger doesn't like its rhythm.. PSN: ogamega "Dust is full of communists who despise people with enough isk to buy expensive items" Uncesored FUCK
Bojo The Mighty Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno 4923	Posted - 2014.08.07 19:05:00 - [6] - Quote shaman oga wrote: probably i was confortable with the old ROF and now i can't enter the mood. It's strange, current ROF is both fast and slow, my finger doesn't like its rhythm.. shaman noob over samples the trigger Just as long as the dice keep rollin, the hoes keep hoein, and the money keeps flowin!
Bormir1r Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 698	Posted - 2014.08.07 19:06:00 - [7] - Quote shaman oga wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: shaman oga wrote: I personally enjoyed the scr pistol before the nerf. I don't like the current ROF, i would give back its ROF, but change the skill bonus, 13 shots are a little too much. I've found the perfect solution, normalize at 7-8 shots per clip, keep the current ROF, skill give a bonus to ROF. I'm a genius. Yeah but if we go back to old RoF it's just the same pray & spray crap everyone abused but was never talked about. It's good right now, requires skill but is still very rewarding. But i'm a noob, i live for spray and pray Well, i like pistols, i have proficiency in both ScrP and bolt pistol, probably i was confortable with the old ROF and now i can't enter the mood. It's strange, current ROF is both fast and slow, my finger doesn't like its rhythm.. The RoF needs to be buffed slightly. Sometimes, when I close my eyes, I can't see anything. "One does not simply" run like a Raptor such as an mk.0.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 3683	Posted - 2014.08.07 20:57:00 - [8] - Quote I believe an increase to RoF is all the ScP needs to compete with the SMG. Shoot scout with yes... - Ripley Riley
Matticus Monk OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2295	Posted - 2014.08.07 21:04:00 - [9] - Quote Yeah, the SMG absolutely rips compared to the ScP these days. It's got the better damage profile, mega rounds in the clip and maxium spray and pray ability. ScP got hit hard with the change to ROF and proficiency damage. A bit of an ROF increase would be nice.... but not much. Spamming the AScP isn't something I want to see return. Double posting like a Kaiser. Embracing the death, at Llast.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 7067	Posted - 2014.08.07 21:29:00 - [10] - Quote SMG needs to be knocked back a bit. More dispersion at range and less laser accurate. Haven't seen the MAGSEC enough to figure out if it's where it needs to be or not. Scrambler Pistol is solid right now. Nova Knives may be up to par in charlie Bolt Pistol, while the range is nice, doesn't have the DPS that a Pistol should...but you can't give a long range weapon a lot of DPS. I'm conflicted about the Bolt Pistol. Maybe it should be the "Desert Eagle" of DUST. Flaylock Pistol, not sure. I don't have enough information to make a judgment on how to fix it. Ion Pistol, needs fixed hit detection, slightly more damage and RoF. Overall, I don't know what the hell to do with most of these weapons. see you space cowboy...

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12698	Posted - 2014.08.07 21:43:00 - [11] - Quote It was just hands down the best pistol..... "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
Cass Caul 376	Posted - 2014.08.08 00:18:00 - [12] - Quote Removal of sharpshooter skill is all the SMG needs to be knocked on to par with the Scrambler Pistol. If you can't keep up, shut up. Math is easy, you're just stupid. The Empress of Alts
Cass Caul 376	Posted - 2014.08.08 00:22:00 - [13] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: SMG needs to be knocked back a bit. More dispersion at range and less laser accurate. Haven't seen the MAGSEC enough to figure out if it's where it needs to be or not. Scrambler Pistol is solid right now. Nova Knives may be up to par in charlie Bolt Pistol, while the range is nice, doesn't have the DPS that a Pistol should...but you can't give a long range weapon a lot of DPS. I'm conflicted about the Bolt Pistol. Maybe it should be the "Desert Eagle" of DUST. Flaylock Pistol, not sure. I don't have enough information to make a judgment on how to fix it. Ion Pistol, needs fixed hit detection, slightly more damage and RoF. Overall, I don't know what the hell to do with most of these weapons. Basically I agree with your outlook on Sidearms with the exceptions: IMO the magsec has a little too much kick, but it's not a significant thing. Ion Pistol needs to not stun you on charge, it also needs to not rattle when you charge it. And it's the only weapon with too much dispersion. IMO, I'd rather see increased ammo per clip in the Bolt than increased damage per shot. If you can't keep up, shut up. Math is easy, you're just stupid. The Empress of Alts
Zindorak 1.U.P 269	Posted - 2014.08.08 01:47:00 - [14] - Quote It should be brought back to its former glory Pokemon master
Shadow Archeus OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 399	Posted - 2014.08.08 02:57:00 - [15] - Quote the scp needs something.... id just drop the std variant and make the breach the std pistol give the assault a rof buff buff the burst hipfire accuracy slightly...not like before when it was a laser but better than the ion pistols add a proto burst variant that would fix scps imo bolt pistols just doesn't feel right increase dmg per shot and increase clip size it lacks the staying power it needs at range ion pistol where do I begin incredibly short range fast rof but bad hipfire accuracy and strange iron sights charge shot does massive damage but not lethal damage as it should as it overheats after one charge shot its like they made a bad copy of the plasma pistol from halo to fix it increase its range increase hipfire slightly make it either enough dmg on the charge shot to kill most suits in one shot or make it able to fire two or three charge shots before overheat Real heavies use lasers
Bormir1r Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 700	Posted - 2014.08.08 03:59:00 - [16] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: SMG needs to be knocked back a bit. More dispersion at range and less laser accurate. Haven't seen the MAGSEC enough to figure out if it's where it needs to be or not. Scrambler Pistol is solid right now. Nova Knives may be up to par in charlie Bolt Pistol, while the range is nice, doesn't have the DPS that a Pistol should...but you can't give a long range weapon a lot of DPS. I'm conflicted about the Bolt Pistol. Maybe it should be the "Desert Eagle" of DUST. Flaylock Pistol, not sure. I don't have enough information to make a judgment on how to fix it. Ion Pistol, needs fixed hit detection, slightly more damage and RoF. Overall, I don't know what the hell to do with most of these weapons. Flaylock pistol needs: Increase in Direct Damage Increas clip size (to 5) Increase blast radius "slightly" Sometimes, when I close my eyes, I can't see anything. "One does not simply" run like a Raptor such as an mk.0.
Bojo The Mighty Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno 4963	Posted - 2014.08.08 16:37:00 - [17] - Quote Cass Caul wrote: Removal of sharpshooter skill is all the SMG needs to be knocked on to par with the Scrambler Pistol. I find that even at militia the thing is far too accurate. OP FOTM lacks cognition


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