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Cody Sietz
SVER True Blood Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.08.07 14:27:00 -
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Losing that low slot is gonna make it tough to rep tank and still survive a fight with a Amarr heavy.
So since the slot change went through, in wonder if we got bumped up in the armour repair department?
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
1807
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Posted - 2014.08.07 15:28:00 -
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Doesn't appear so.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
264
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Posted - 2014.08.07 15:29:00 -
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id rather seem base repair for commando as sentinels are supposted to be supported with logi while commando are not.
> LogiBro in Training
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Cody Sietz
SVER True Blood Dark Taboo
3790
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Posted - 2014.08.07 15:35:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:id rather seem base repair for commando as sentinels are supposted to be supported with logi while commando are not. It would be nice, but right now the Gallente sentinel does have enough base ehp to compete with a Amarr sentinel and the ability to rep tank set it apart from the Amarr.
Now, we will just be another 2 plate 1 rep suit and a 1 base repair per second.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
1807
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Posted - 2014.08.07 15:49:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:id rather seem base repair for commando as sentinels are supposted to be supported with logi while commando are not. It would be nice, but right now the Gallente sentinel does have enough base ehp to compete with a Amarr sentinel and the ability to rep tank set it apart from the Amarr. Now, we will just be another 2 plate 1 rep suit and a 1 base repair per second.
one plate, two rep.
Or triple-rep.
There's a method to my madness
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Cody Sietz
SVER True Blood Dark Taboo
3790
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Posted - 2014.08.07 15:52:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:id rather seem base repair for commando as sentinels are supposted to be supported with logi while commando are not. It would be nice, but right now the Gallente sentinel does have enough base ehp to compete with a Amarr sentinel and the ability to rep tank set it apart from the Amarr. Now, we will just be another 2 plate 1 rep suit and a 1 base repair per second. one plate, two rep. Or triple-rep. There's a method to my madness Now try to fight a triple plate 1 rep Amarr sentinel.
Or a dual plate dual rep Amarr sentinel.
Or a single plate triple rep Amarr sentinel.
They have higher base ehp, we have 1 rep per second.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
1807
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Posted - 2014.08.07 15:57:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:id rather seem base repair for commando as sentinels are supposted to be supported with logi while commando are not. It would be nice, but right now the Gallente sentinel does have enough base ehp to compete with a Amarr sentinel and the ability to rep tank set it apart from the Amarr. Now, we will just be another 2 plate 1 rep suit and a 1 base repair per second. one plate, two rep. Or triple-rep. There's a method to my madness Now try to fight a triple plate 1 rep Amarr sentinel. Or a dual plate dual rep Amarr sentinel. Or a single plate triple rep Amarr sentinel. They have higher base ehp, we have 1 rep per second.
do it every day. I have three sentinel suits to 5, working on the minmatar one now. I do a rotation, practicing with all of them.
Once the hotfix goes live I'm simply swapping my gallente and amarr sentinel fits to appropriate setups and swapping the roles I use them for on the battlefield. Done.
I use the minsent to assassinate people.
I also use different tactics on different suits. Using the same tactics on all four of them means the amarr sentinel wins the fight every time. |
Cody Sietz
SVER True Blood Dark Taboo
3791
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Posted - 2014.08.07 16:40:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:id rather seem base repair for commando as sentinels are supposted to be supported with logi while commando are not. It would be nice, but right now the Gallente sentinel does have enough base ehp to compete with a Amarr sentinel and the ability to rep tank set it apart from the Amarr. Now, we will just be another 2 plate 1 rep suit and a 1 base repair per second. one plate, two rep. Or triple-rep. There's a method to my madness Now try to fight a triple plate 1 rep Amarr sentinel. Or a dual plate dual rep Amarr sentinel. Or a single plate triple rep Amarr sentinel. They have higher base ehp, we have 1 rep per second. do it every day. I have three sentinel suits to 5, working on the minmatar one now. I do a rotation, practicing with all of them. Once the hotfix goes live I'm simply swapping my gallente and amarr sentinel fits to appropriate setups and swapping the roles I use them for on the battlefield. Done. I use the minsent to assassinate people. I also use different tactics on different suits. Using the same tactics on all four of them means the amarr sentinel wins the fight every time. you do it now, I don't think we will be able to stand up to Amarr sentinels after Charlie.
They so have a extra 10 percent defense vs the HMG.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
4918
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Posted - 2014.08.07 17:47:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:id rather seem base repair for commando as sentinels are supposted to be supported with logi while commando are not. OK I swear to god half the **** you say comes out of nowhere.
Where in the holy divine book of stats does it suggest that commandos aren't supposed to be supported by a logi? You know a logi is supposed to support the whole team, right? It's not like commandos are banned from the rep tool or anything.
You're making up these assumptions without basis and stating that it was by design.
Just as long as the dice keep rollin, the hoes keep hoein, and the money keeps flowin!
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Arcturis Vanguard
Murphys-Law
231
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Posted - 2014.08.07 18:58:00 -
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It's actually 5% not 10%. Galsent will be able to stack 2 damage mods now to make up for the loss in passive bonus essentially making them fairly equal in damage output and absorption. It'll continue to come down to gun game and who has the better logi.
Amarr Heavy V
Amarr Assault V
Caldari Scout V
Caldari logistic IV
Prof V HMG & FORGE
Prof IV CR, SMG
Prof III ScR
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Mr Hakyou
97
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Posted - 2014.08.07 19:06:00 -
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Meh, I think they shouldn't have swapped Gal and Amarr slots.. I skilled into Gal so I can rep tank and armor tank at the same time while not having as much damage output. Why would they switch it in the first place?
Hotfix Charlie
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Kallas Hallytyr
Skullbreakers
700
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Posted - 2014.08.07 19:20:00 -
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I agree with you Cody.
In Bravo, a GalSent could get more rep/second due to slot layout/base rep rate. In Charlie, an AmSent will be able to have better rep rate AND have higher armour.
This is bad and against the principles of each races' tanking style.
Alt of Halla Murr.
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Cody Sietz
SVER True Blood Dark Taboo
3794
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Posted - 2014.08.07 20:43:00 -
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Arcturis Vanguard wrote:It's actually 5% not 10%. Galsent will be able to stack 2 damage mods now to make up for the loss in passive bonus essentially making them fairly equal in damage output and absorption. It'll continue to come down to gun game and who has the better logi.
Amarr still has overall better stats, while the Gal has a built in rep of 1...
The extra low slot was very important, adding 2-4 percent worth of dmg isn't game changing.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
1813
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Posted - 2014.08.07 21:10:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote: you do it now, I don't think we will be able to stand up to Amarr sentinels after Charlie.
They so have a extra 10 percent defense vs the HMG.
I think we will.
Damage mods in the highs tend to make amarr sentinels feel unhappy. Like I said, all I have to do is swap how I play them. one or two plates and one or two reps.
two damage mods in high
flux nades
Burst HMG.
Dead ***** amarr sentinel. |
Cody Sietz
SVER True Blood Dark Taboo
3794
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Posted - 2014.08.07 21:25:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Cody Sietz wrote: you do it now, I don't think we will be able to stand up to Amarr sentinels after Charlie.
They so have a extra 10 percent defense vs the HMG.
I think we will. Damage mods in the highs tend to make amarr sentinels feel unhappy. Like I said, all I have to do is swap how I play them. one or two plates and one or two reps. two damage mods in high flux nades Burst HMG. Dead ***** amarr sentinel. Maybe your right, but I don't think the 4 percent is going to make a amazing difference.
Losing 148 armour or a extra 9 reps per second vs gaining 2-4 percent dmg, is it worth it? I suppose only time will tell but I honestly have a bad feeling.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
68
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Posted - 2014.08.08 09:21:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:id rather seem base repair for commando as sentinels are supposted to be supported with logi while commando are not. OK I swear to god half the **** you say comes out of nowhere. Where in the holy divine book of stats does it suggest that commandos aren't supposed to be supported by a logi? You know a logi is supposed to support the whole team, right? It's not like commandos are banned from the rep tool or anything. You're making up these assumptions without basis and stating that it was by design. I deleted on of my long range assault fits (fitting limit)and made this commando.got a logi on me redlined the whole enemy team. Had snipers trying to queshot me adv amar commando elm lr stnd RR ..ran42/0
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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Cody Sietz
SVER True Blood Dark Taboo
3799
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Posted - 2014.08.08 13:23:00 -
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:id rather seem base repair for commando as sentinels are supposted to be supported with logi while commando are not. OK I swear to god half the **** you say comes out of nowhere. Where in the holy divine book of stats does it suggest that commandos aren't supposed to be supported by a logi? You know a logi is supposed to support the whole team, right? It's not like commandos are banned from the rep tool or anything. You're making up these assumptions without basis and stating that it was by design. I deleted on of my long range assault fits (fitting limit)and made this commando.got a logi on me redlined the whole enemy team. Had snipers trying to queshot me adv amar commando elm lr stnd RR ..ran42/0 Amarr does get a nice armour pool.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1062
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Posted - 2014.08.09 06:59:00 -
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Mr Hakyou wrote:Meh, I think they shouldn't have swapped Gal and Amarr slots.. I skilled into Gal so I can rep tank and armor tank at the same time while not having as much damage output. Why would they switch it in the first place? as did i. it was nice running a rep tanked gallente not needing a logi but not as strong as an amarr. so if the reason i put SP into the suit is being changed then a heavy dropsuit respec should be allowed.
KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
4158
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Posted - 2014.08.09 09:25:00 -
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I'm not a fan of heavies having passive armor regen.
I like having options and I love the ability to do whatever I want for the most part, but from a balance perspective I like the armor based heavies needing support.
Level 4 Forum Warrior Very, very bitter vet
PSN: wbrom42
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Kallas Hallytyr
Skullbreakers
714
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Posted - 2014.08.09 09:57:00 -
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It's not about heavies having to rely on Logis: any heavy can fit a repper,but the poi t is that Gallente should be the best at repping themselves. This was the case in Bravo, since Gallente had 4 lows and a built-in 1/sec repair. Now Amarr will be the best (most lows) while still having their built-in base armour advantage.
If you want an armour tanking heavy, there is now no reason to use Gallente, especially since Amarr gets the best heavy vs heavy resistance (though Gallente's Rail resistance is still good.)
Alt of Halla Murr.
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