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PoP SoTa
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Posted - 2014.08.13 16:57:00 -
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ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:Leeroy Gannarsein wrote:ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:Now since i like politics, if you want my opinion if their will be another Civil War in America, then the answer is 70% Yes & 30% No.
Considering the fact that the country is self is slowly stripping Liberty from Americans, the Government itself is spying on it's on people which they have no legal authority to do so without a warrant, the country is turning into a police state country with policemen with armored vehicles & military gear, these have been spotted across the country.
I mean isn't America Founded on Liberty? George Washington would hate to see what America has become, his vision for a country that he help set free from the British Commonwealth, just seems to be a total waste.
The Government is in 14 - 16 Trillion Dollar Debt, the dollar itself is being reject by many countries, the government is mostly funding the Military Complex, Espionage and Media Propaganda rather than funding the infrastructure of it's own country.
The Government has been involved in many conflicts in other countries, actually more than many, more like loads of conflicts with other countries, that they need to keep their business out of, and focus on their own people.
I could say straight away that the American Government is full of tyranny... You Are Dumb. Government is behaving in exactly the same way that government has behaved since like ever, and you guys basically said 'no we don't really want freedom anyway cos TERRISM'. America is founded on a whole lot of things, but I kinda doubt G. W. would be doing anything differently were he still president. Dollar isn't being rejected. Gonna have to see sources for that one. USA is still USA. 'Course America is sticking its nose into other people's armed conflicts - it was forged in fire and blood, after all, and they seem to like continuing the same way. But I can see literally no reason why a state would secede, let alone declare war. There is no possibility of civil war at all. Rebellion, perhaps, maybe twenty or thirty years down the track (and you can blame gun rights for that one) but even then I doubt it. FULL DISCLOSURE: I'm Australian and a USA dual national. I have eggs in that basket, in a manner of speaking. And as a member of the Western world, I have a vested interest in the USA remaining the most militarily powerful nation in the world. Really ehh... Did you know that the USA did 9/11 False Flag? Did you know USA supports and funds N.A.Z.I.S IN Ukraine? Did you know that USA supports and funds Israels Bombing on Gaza? Did you know USA created, trained, supports and funds ISIS? i could go on, with the amount of f**king tyrannical s*it they have done, the USA was the reason the Middle East is unstable. in fact here watch this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc3QezVTQ20 What biased non-sense. America's only blame is arming the middle east to fight russia and it going out of control from there. If you understood our history at all with them you'd know it's been nothing but us trying to help our allies while getting **** on in the process. America does not back down when threatened, and when we punch we punch back harder. Look at our legal system in-land. What's the fine for speeding and literring? Do you really think that can worth 90 cents was worth a $4,000 fine?
Fact is - middle east can't handle there ****, and not only America feels threatened by the growing terrorist numbers over there. If we were the ones to step in another country would of - and that country would be much more likely to just light half a city on fire to shut up people they don't like to begin with.
Remember, the middle east went on a church burning rampage not too long ago, doing it over and over again, over reasons such as comics. If America wasn't so intervened in the area you'd bet your ass other countries would be leaving a mark over there.
******* middle easterns have no idea how lucky they are we're the ones handling business and not France or China.
Oh, and don't talk economics ever again. The american dollar is still accepted by EVERYONE who matters, and is the second currency to a good amount of those countries. It's because of those countries so tied with our dollar that our dollars value doesn't completely crash.
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PoP SoTa
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Posted - 2014.08.13 17:13:00 -
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ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:Leeroy Gannarsein wrote:ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:Now since i like politics, if you want my opinion if their will be another Civil War in America, then the answer is 70% Yes & 30% No.
Considering the fact that the country is self is slowly stripping Liberty from Americans, the Government itself is spying on it's on people which they have no legal authority to do so without a warrant, the country is turning into a police state country with policemen with armored vehicles & military gear, these have been spotted across the country.
I mean isn't America Founded on Liberty? George Washington would hate to see what America has become, his vision for a country that he help set free from the British Commonwealth, just seems to be a total waste.
The Government is in 14 - 16 Trillion Dollar Debt, the dollar itself is being reject by many countries, the government is mostly funding the Military Complex, Espionage and Media Propaganda rather than funding the infrastructure of it's own country.
The Government has been involved in many conflicts in other countries, actually more than many, more like loads of conflicts with other countries, that they need to keep their business out of, and focus on their own people.
I could say straight away that the American Government is full of tyranny... You Are Dumb. Government is behaving in exactly the same way that government has behaved since like ever, and you guys basically said 'no we don't really want freedom anyway cos TERRISM'. America is founded on a whole lot of things, but I kinda doubt G. W. would be doing anything differently were he still president. Dollar isn't being rejected. Gonna have to see sources for that one. USA is still USA. 'Course America is sticking its nose into other people's armed conflicts - it was forged in fire and blood, after all, and they seem to like continuing the same way. But I can see literally no reason why a state would secede, let alone declare war. There is no possibility of civil war at all. Rebellion, perhaps, maybe twenty or thirty years down the track (and you can blame gun rights for that one) but even then I doubt it. FULL DISCLOSURE: I'm Australian and a USA dual national. I have eggs in that basket, in a manner of speaking. And as a member of the Western world, I have a vested interest in the USA remaining the most militarily powerful nation in the world. Really ehh... Did you know that the USA did 9/11 False Flag? Did you know USA supports and funds N.A.Z.I.S IN Ukraine? Did you know that USA supports and funds Israels Bombing on Gaza? Did you know USA created, trained, supports and funds ISIS? i could go on, with the amount of f**king tyrannical s*it they have done, the USA was the reason the Middle East is unstable. in fact here watch this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc3QezVTQ20 What biased non-sense. America's only blame is arming the middle east to fight russia and it going out of control from there. If you understood our history at all with them you'd know it's been nothing but us trying to help our allies while getting **** on in the process. America does not back down when threatened, and when we get punched we punch back harder. Look at our legal system in-land. What's the fine for speeding and literring? Do you really think that can worth 90 cents was worth a $4,000 fine? Fact is - middle east can't handle there ****, and not only America feels threatened by the growing terrorist numbers over there. If we were the ones to step in another country would of - and that country would be much more likely to just light half a city on fire to shut up people they don't like to begin with. Remember, the middle east went on a church burning rampage not too long ago, doing it over and over again, over reasons such as comics. If America wasn't so intervened in the area you'd bet your ass other countries would be leaving a mark over there. ******* middle easterns have no idea how lucky they are we're the ones handling business and not France or China. Oh, and don't talk economics ever again. The american dollar is still accepted by EVERYONE who matters, and is the second currency to a good amount of those countries. It's because of those countries so tied with our dollar that our dollars value doesn't completely crash. You think my words are bias? You obviously don't know anything about the present America, they fund terrorism, they make Arabs in the Middle East as terrorists, it's the USA fault for they've done to the Middle East. If you actually support what America is doing globally, which is funding and supporting terrorism, then you need seeing sense. The dollar is dropping, it's the fact that you let the American Government Propaganda Machine flood your brain with BS... Can I get link to any of this? Otherwise, no.
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PoP SoTa
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Posted - 2014.08.13 17:20:00 -
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ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:PoP SoTa wrote: Can I get link to any of this? Otherwise, no. Have you ever heard of the word "Independent"? i learned all this myself since i was 10 (I'm 18 now) by researching through 1000s of articles and videos, do you want me to be your teacher and educate you? or are you going to independently research the stuff yourself? Why do I need to research YOUR claims? Prove your BS or shut the **** up, is that hard to understand? And btw - your youtube video is also biased non-sense. Taking clips out of context to prove a point is just bad conduct and should never be used as a source material for an argument.
Maybe you should re-educate yourself and try again.
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PoP SoTa
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Posted - 2014.08.13 17:26:00 -
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Oh, I love this line from the clip.
"They can't understand what's going on because they can't even recite the pledge of allegiance!"
hahahahahahahahahaha
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PoP SoTa
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Posted - 2014.08.13 17:30:00 -
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ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:PoP SoTa wrote: Can I get link to any of this? Otherwise, no. Have you ever heard of the word "Independent"? i learned all this myself since i was 10 (I'm 18 now) by researching through 1000s of articles and videos, do you want me to be your teacher and educate you? or are you going to independently research the stuff yourself? Why do I need to research YOUR claims? Prove your BS or shut the **** up, is that hard to understand? And btw - your youtube video is also biased non-sense. Taking clips out of context to prove a point is just bad conduct and should never be used as a source material for an argument. Maybe you should re-educate yourself and try again. No, you have bias nonsense, the video is showing you (if you watched from beginning to the end) that the country liberty is slowly being stripped away & that the police force is corrupt. Did you watch the police brutality part? or see biometric scans being used across the country? that is the start, the rest you research on your own, because if you are gonna treat me like a piece of **** on your shoe then i'll leave you to do your homework... I know more than you do, so don't question my intelligence... Please, for the love of god, go watch world news, compare to america, then go shoot yourself for thinking america is dying rather then dealing with modern issues.
Police brutality - OMG REALLY?! AMERICA REALLY IS DYING!! It's like - that's never happened before!!! :O :O :O
And I am watching, and oh it's so interesting. It shows clips just long enough to make america look like crap then move on to the next story, lol.
You use this as a source material to argue with then tell me to go find the real sources myself to prove your claims.
You're such an idiot I can't comprehend it. Prove your claims, or shut up. It's really, really, really, simple. And, please, use REAL SOURCES. NOT FOX NEWS LIKE THIS CLIP, LOLOL.
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PoP SoTa
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Posted - 2014.08.13 17:39:00 -
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ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:PoP SoTa wrote: Please, for the love of god, go watch world news, compare to america, then go shoot yourself for thinking america is dying rather then dealing with modern issues.
Police brutality - OMG REALLY?! AMERICA REALLY IS DYING!! It's like - that's never happened before!!! :O :O :O
And I am watching, and oh it's so interesting. It shows clips just long enough to make america look like crap then move on to the next story, lol.
You use this as a source material to argue with then tell me to go find the real sources myself to prove your claims.
You're such an idiot I can't comprehend it. Prove your claims, or shut up. It's really, really, really, simple. And, please, use REAL SOURCES. NOT FOX NEWS LIKE THIS CLIP, LOLOL.
Like i said, that is the start of your homework, the rest you research yourself, Why? because of your poor attitude towards me. If you are not gonna bother researching the stuff that you say is "my claims", even tho it has been debunked, then you have proven your ignorance. Good Bye have a nice day... Nope, you can go **** yourself, I already know your full of it. The american dollar currency is falling, but nothing dramatic to make people say doom is coming, more like a natural flux as market change and countries situations develop.
Police brutality is a constant because, hey, we're humans! Find me a country that never happens in, and I'll call you a liar happily.
And, by the way, Mass media is not a source. I want to know which journalist and actual source your using to find your information - I'm asking for the actual information source, not the guys spewing it out for them.
Problem is - you don't have it, because Fox News won't dislocse where they got it from. This is why they're not creditable and neither is anything you've said here using them as a source.
You're bad and should feel bad.
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PoP SoTa
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Posted - 2014.08.13 17:42:00 -
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"Hey guise! I got all these claims! World is coming to an end! Biggest country on the verge of falling! Want to know more? Here's a clip completely out of context, and don't bother asking me for more, I don't have it, so go find it yourself, I'm just a puppet who found a youtube video and now feel like I know everything from it."
There, I summed up the thread for ya.
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PoP SoTa
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Posted - 2014.08.13 17:58:00 -
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ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:"Hey guise! I got all these claims! World is coming to an end! Biggest country on the verge of falling! Want to know more? Here's a clip completely out of context, and don't bother asking me for more, I don't have it, so go find it yourself, I'm just a puppet who found a youtube video and now feel like I know everything from it."
There, I summed up the thread for ya. You're being immature, you're ignorant and most selfish person I've ever seen on the internet, you have the audacity to say that i made those claims up? Like i said those claims have been debunked by loads of people globally, even people n America itself. I remember when one person called David Icke went on a TV show and said "The Twin Towers will be blown up between 2000 & 2002" People laughed at what they called "stupid nonsense", but when it happen they weren't laughing then. You're doing the same thing, so please shut your ignorant mouth... I'm sorry, but discussing in a mature tone politics with someone who won't share there sources or there media's sources isn't someone I'd take seriously to begin with.
This is more of a joke topic made by someone who felt inspired over propaganda.
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PoP SoTa
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.13 18:10:00 -
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ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:"Hey guise! I got all these claims! World is coming to an end! Biggest country on the verge of falling! Want to know more? Here's a clip completely out of context, and don't bother asking me for more, I don't have it, so go find it yourself, I'm just a puppet who found a youtube video and now feel like I know everything from it."
There, I summed up the thread for ya. You're being immature, you're ignorant and most selfish person I've ever seen on the internet, you have the audacity to say that i made those claims up? Like i said those claims have been debunked by loads of people globally, even people n America itself. I remember when one person called David Icke went on a TV show and said "The Twin Towers will be blown up between 2000 & 2002" People laughed at what they called "stupid nonsense", but when it happen they weren't laughing then. You're doing the same thing, so please shut your ignorant mouth... I'm sorry, but discussing in a mature tone politics with someone who won't share there sources or there media's sources isn't someone I'd take seriously to begin with. This is more of a joke topic made by someone who felt inspired over propaganda. You have a brain don't you? Aren't you capable of going on Google and doing research yourself? Goodness me even an intelligent human would do that. I'm not your mother they're 2 options, you either: 1. Be independent and research the stuff yourself like an intelligent human would do. or 2. You can shut your mouth and get lost Your choice... Again, your the one making the claims, so it's up to you to prove it. Otherwise, it's just non-sense.
You're seriously asking me to make you look smart, I'm not doing it. Put the effort in yourself. It's YOUR claims.
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PoP SoTa
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Posted - 2014.08.13 18:29:00 -
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You see, I did do that over one of your topics since it did interest me and can't find where your information is coming from. Where exactly, or who exactly, is denying the US dollar?
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PoP SoTa
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Posted - 2014.08.13 19:17:00 -
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okay - few things I feel you need to be aware of.
Firstly, Neo-**** are getting american support through actions that are in american interest. I doubt they approached america with, "Hey, we're ****'s who need guns, plz help." but rather, "This is how things are, this is how we want them to be, this is in your interest, this in ours." and deals were made through proxies. The article only touches upon that they use american weaponry - not that america is actually involved with them, and that american media favors them with a standing history of support to and from america in south america *Big shock considering the whole continent hates us*
Now the dollar - you forgot to add Brazil. The countries are all a part of an economic alliance specifically set up to counter americanization. This is not news - it's been going on for decades. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS
USA did 9/11 I am not even going to read, there's already proof we had contact with terrorists who were a part of the planning, and there's evidence to support we gave them the intel necessary to pull there plan off. There's also some rumors, that some of your links supported, that they used american telecommunications to pull it off. But there is no concrete evidence, even with a third party security company doing the investigating, that any real contact between America and Terrisot caused 9/11, and there have been TONS of research to prove that they did, all of it for nothing.
I couldn't finish your last link - what does religion being stupid have to do with America being in Marshall Law? Christians aren't special, if a Jihad believer can't praise his lord while loving his country then neither can you *******.
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PoP SoTa
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Posted - 2014.08.13 19:52:00 -
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well, if it's by BRICS you think our dollar is dropping in value then your late the party by a few decades. It's been the purpose to begin with to lower the Dollars value and increase Russia/China/Brazilian influence in there respective spheres. It's been working, slightly, but it's slowly starting to hurt Brazil, as they rely on the America and Allies for a lot of materials. It's never a good idea to get on the Common Wealths bad side, and I think Brazil realizes that, while China and Russia couldn't care less. Though with Euro and parts of Asia now putting a ban on trading with russia *Trade embargo* they're going to start starving in mass in the next decade.
I'd give it another 2 decades before Brazil realizes they have more to gain from Americanzing, especially with more asian and african countries doing so.
China as well is opening itself up to america, now allowing america to deal business in chinese borders for the first time in decades. If anything, our relationship with China is increasing in strength, and we have North Korea to thank as well as China's bad diplomatic policies to neighboring asian countries.
But the problem there is that we're much closer tied to Japan and there economics, almost conjoined by the hip, and China LOATHES JAPAN. Eventually there'll be conflict forcing America to choose Japans side, which will put Russia as a chinese ally.
It's a tough spot for us - we want to stay loyal to japan, but they're not doing anything to fix there problems with the mainland.
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PoP SoTa
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Posted - 2014.08.13 20:12:00 -
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ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:well, if it's by BRICS you think our dollar is dropping in value then your late the party by a few decades. It's been the purpose to begin with to lower the Dollars value and increase Russia/China/Brazilian influence in there respective spheres. It's been working, slightly, but it's slowly starting to hurt Brazil, as they rely on the America and Allies for a lot of materials. It's never a good idea to get on the Common Wealths bad side, and I think Brazil realizes that, while China and Russia couldn't care less. Though with Euro and parts of Asia now putting a ban on trading with russia *Trade embargo* they're going to start starving in mass in the next decade.
I'd give it another 2 decades before Brazil realizes they have more to gain from Americanzing, especially with more asian and african countries doing so.
China as well is opening itself up to america, now allowing america to deal business in chinese borders for the first time in decades. If anything, our relationship with China is increasing in strength, and we have North Korea to thank as well as China's bad diplomatic policies to neighboring asian countries.
But the problem there is that we're much closer tied to Japan and there economics, almost conjoined by the hip, and China LOATHES JAPAN. Eventually there'll be conflict forcing America to choose Japans side, which will put Russia as a chinese ally.
It's a tough spot for us - we want to stay loyal to japan, but they're not doing anything to fix there problems with the mainland. You do relise that Russia and China are craeted their own world currency to go against the dollar. The US is a bully because they think they could whatever they want just because they got the federal reserve & they can sanction anyone because of it. Russia and China has had enough so they're working together against the dollar... Don't flatter yourself that the Dollar is strengthen everything, it got us in recession plenty of times in Europe... haha, can't deny you there. When our Silver and Gold stopped being our dollars value and instead was dictated by other countries markets we were destined for trouble.
And I must admit - what's this about a combined currency between China and Russia? They print the same currency for both countries????? *Runs to google*
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PoP SoTa
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Posted - 2014.08.13 20:15:00 -
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ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:Nrabatar Zorig wrote:Why did I have the distinct feel that this was quickly going to devolve into a flamewar? Politics is like that, it's annoying as hell considering one side think what they're doing is right while the other thinks otherwise... It's more fun to debate this way.
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PoP SoTa
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Posted - 2014.08.13 20:16:00 -
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ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: And I'm going to end the conversation here and go to bed, because I'm tired....
night o/
I'll have all the juicy info later. ^_^
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Posted - 2014.08.13 23:16:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:my opinion if their will be another Civil War in America, then the answer is 70% Yes & 30% No.
If you asked Americans if there will be Civil war I'm very ******* certain that over 70% would say no. In your mind, you want to see civil war, so you optimistically think that there will be one. There's always been a missed frequency between state and national governments, such as ********* and prison laws. States want the right to govern themselves, but the federal is saying they're going too far. Recent raids on 'legal' ********* growing facilities in california is heating up the debate if america's government should hold less control over state government.
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Posted - 2014.08.16 21:35:00 -
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ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:my opinion if their will be another Civil War in America, then the answer is 70% Yes & 30% No.
If you asked Americans if there will be Civil war I'm very ******* certain that over 70% would say no. In your mind, you want to see civil war, so you optimistically think that there will be one. Because they will, the US Government is preparing for Martial Law & and their have been a few riots over police brutality in America, their so much unrest that the whole country would explode into riots in nearly all States of America. When one riot starts others will follow & it'll spread into other states... Like this one - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iieEb-RUsk& this one - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p12ULUCPj5s& also this one - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR67yRQdOlo For the love of god, stop using Youtube as a source.
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