DUST Search - Non-Combat Roles

Bojo The Mighty wrote:

Maken Tosch wrote:

From what I see on how CCP is intending Legion to start off with, there will be at least one other thing to do besides what you described. Market Trading.

You will no doubt see players like me diving into the secondary market making a massive profit without ever needing to leave the comfort of my merc quarters. And I have done plenty of marketeering in Eve Online and still do to this day in addition to manufacturing and mining. So don't be surprised if you see countless buy orders setup by players on day one of Legion because a lot of Eve Online players will flock to Legion with their skills in dealing with the market forces. Sure, there will be players who will setup sell order instead to maximize their profits, but there will always be players who are in a rush and can't wait for the ISK to roll in. In that case, those players will fire sell which is good for marketeers.

While I am glad Legion will most likely deploy with a functioning market, that is not a boots-on-the-ground ability. I'm talking about on battle non combat roles. Roles that help sway outcome without necessarily shooting stuff.


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Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8977	Posted - 2014.08.06 00:31:00 - [1] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Legion must not follow the same template as dust. Dust is very one dimensional: pew pew pew. Legion needs to be much more 50/50 combat/non combat. Hell if anything that would be a great way for new player support, where new players can be assets as non-combat more often than combat, and work their way up to more combat if they want, or further the non combat aspect. From what I see on how CCP is intending Legion to start off with, there will be at least one other thing to do besides what you described. Market Trading. You will no doubt see players like me diving into the secondary market making a massive profit without ever needing to leave the comfort of my merc quarters. And I have done plenty of marketeering in Eve Online and still do to this day in addition to manufacturing and mining. So don't be surprised if you see countless buy orders setup by players on day one of Legion because a lot of Eve Online players will flock to Legion with their skills in dealing with the market forces. Sure, there will be players who will setup sell order instead to maximize their profits, but there will always be players who are in a rush and can't wait for the ISK to roll in. In that case, those players will fire sell which is good for marketeers. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8977	Posted - 2014.08.06 01:43:00 - [2] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: From what I see on how CCP is intending Legion to start off with, there will be at least one other thing to do besides what you described. Market Trading. You will no doubt see players like me diving into the secondary market making a massive profit without ever needing to leave the comfort of my merc quarters. And I have done plenty of marketeering in Eve Online and still do to this day in addition to manufacturing and mining. So don't be surprised if you see countless buy orders setup by players on day one of Legion because a lot of Eve Online players will flock to Legion with their skills in dealing with the market forces. Sure, there will be players who will setup sell order instead to maximize their profits, but there will always be players who are in a rush and can't wait for the ISK to roll in. In that case, those players will fire sell which is good for marketeers. While I am glad Legion will most likely deploy with a functioning market, that is not a boots-on-the-ground ability. I'm talking about on battle non combat roles. Roles that help sway outcome without necessarily shooting stuff. In a way it does involve boots on the ground. Right now in Dust, there is protostomping all over the place because there are plenty of players who profit from corp resources to fund their proto gear in addition to prices being fixed by the NPC primary market. Since Legion is obviously going to center around the market and it's obvious that militia gear might become the only NPC-seeded items in the market, it will become extremely expensive to continue funding a proto fit if it the whole fit cost the user nearly 5 million per death. Even with a wallet stuffed with over 500 million ISK, you'll run out of ISK fast especially if you happen to be a dedicated vehicle user. As a result, players will start behaving conservatively and start using cheaper fits more often while using the salvage to subsidize their fits rather than immediately buying the salvage from another player. This means less protostomping in the battlefield and more balanced gameplay because constant protostomping will be too damn costly especially in an open-world environment where anything can happen. Us marketeers will make an impact on the battlefield before the battle has even started as we then build up influence on the market. But as a marketeer I also have to watch out for others who will try to undercut me and steal my customers. To some of the folks here on the forums who don't realize it by now, this is known as market pvp. It happens all the time in Eve Online. Of course the market doesn't affect the battle in a major way like how the battle of B-R5RB went in Eve, but it does influence it in subtle ways before the battle starts. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8982	Posted - 2014.08.07 20:08:00 - [3] - Quote lateris ablon wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: If the income from owning districts in PC is generated via tax on salvaged items, then salvaging items in a PC district would be a greate role for new players, and a good reason for PC Corps to take in new players. You need the players to do the salvaging to generate the tax to make the ISK. The more districts your Corp owns, the more players you need to generate a profit from those districts. Would this push players to form larger corps? Very likely, but you have to remember that the bigger your corp, the more likely you are to get spies among your ranks. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.