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        |  wiseguy12
 Ancient Legion
 
 58
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.04 21:09:00 -
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 CCP just wondering if STD gear is meant for pubs or not. In all Logical scenarios STD gear is well suited for pubs because proto is just to expensive. I, on average, make about 210,000 isk a match and that is less than a proto suit. So tell me why do people proto stomp. My squad occasionally just hunts these protos and kills them numerous times, But they still persist.
 
 
 
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        |  gustavo acosta
 Opus Arcana
 Covert Intervention
 
 149
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.04 21:12:00 -
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 I don't like standard gear because I like to use variants and I don't get that until adv/proto tier... so ya know.
 
 Gallente scout, heavy, logi, and assault can't touch my post nerfed flaylock sun.... | 
      
      
        |  Jack 3enimble
 Vengeance Unbound
 Dark Taboo
 
 101
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.04 21:12:00 -
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 wiseguy12 wrote:CCP just wondering if STD gear is meant for pubs or not. In all Logical scenarios STD gear is well suited for pubs because proto is just to expensive. I, on average, make about 210,000 isk a match and that is less than a proto suit. So tell me why do people proto stomp. My squad occasionally just hunts these protos and kills them numerous times, But they still persist.
 
 
 Because the people who are doing that have probably 10 times the amount of ISK of what you have. So it doesn't matter to them.
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        |  Onesimus Tarsus
 I-am-a-Corporation
 
 2419
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.04 21:13:00 -
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 wiseguy12 wrote:CCP just wondering if STD gear is meant for pubs or not. In all Logical scenarios STD gear is well suited for pubs because proto is just to expensive. I, on average, make about 210,000 isk a match and that is less than a proto suit. So tell me why do people proto stomp. My squad occasionally just hunts these protos and kills them numerous times, But they still persist. Never look for logic in the chambers of the heart.
 
 By the way, my proto scout (about as full proto as I can make it), tops out at 160k.
 
 K/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period. It even fixes WP/D(r).
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        |  wiseguy12
 Ancient Legion
 
 58
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.04 21:16:00 -
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 My proto suit is expensive because I use LP and LP is worth more than isk
 
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        |  Onesimus Tarsus
 I-am-a-Corporation
 
 2419
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.04 21:20:00 -
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 wiseguy12 wrote:My proto suit is expensive because I use LP and LP is worth more than isk  ???
 
 K/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period. It even fixes WP/D(r).
Beh! | 
      
      
        |  shaman oga
 Nexus Balusa Horizon
 
 2591
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.04 21:42:00 -
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 wiseguy12 wrote:My proto suit is expensive because I use LP and LP is worth more than isk  My proto logi costs 270k.
 My STD gal scout has 100% more survavibility.
 Vanity > all
 
 PSN: ogamega "Dust is full of communists who despise people with enough isk to buy expensive items" Uncesored FUCK | 
      
      
        |  Joel II X
 Dah Gods O Bacon
 
 2783
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.04 21:46:00 -
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 My proto suit costs 100k.
 
 YAY!
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        |  Leadfoot10
 Molon Labe.
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 1277
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.04 22:00:00 -
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 wiseguy12 wrote: So tell me why do people proto stomp? Because they have enough isk that it doesn't matter....and because they can.
 
 
 wiseguy12 wrote:My squad occasionally just hunts these protos and kills them numerous times, But they still persist. \Sounds like you're doing just fine with it (although I suspect that you're really not because you started this thread).... So just keep doing what you're doing, save up isk (I played in starter suits in pubs for many months saving ISK), and choose your proto suits wisely....Leadfoot
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        |  Thaddeus Reynolds
 Facepunch Security
 
 47
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.04 23:01:00 -
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 I proto logi...because proto logi...proto sniper, because lower tiers of sniper rifles suck...otherwise STD Amarr Assault (Or Templar) or ADV Caldari Heavy Frame (For when the redberries think they can have vehicles)
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        |  Reign Omega
 BurgezzE.T.F
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 732
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.04 23:10:00 -
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 shaman oga wrote:wiseguy12 wrote:My proto suit is expensive because I use LP and LP is worth more than isk  My proto logi costs 270k. My STD gal scout has 100% more survavibility. Vanity > all 
 You know it.. I worked hard to look this good girl.
 
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        |  CUSE TOWN333
 KILL-EM-QUICK
 RISE of LEGION
 
 1037
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.04 23:18:00 -
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 wiseguy12 wrote:for some reason when i use Proto or Adv gear i don't really lose any money and i all ready have a lot of money so im not really trying to make any more.CCP just wondering if STD gear is meant for pubs or not. In all Logical scenarios STD gear is well suited for pubs because proto is just to expensive. I, on average, make about 210,000 isk a match and that is less than a proto suit. So tell me why do people proto stomp. My squad occasionally just hunts these protos and kills them numerous times, But they still persist.
 
 
 
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        |  BlazeXYZ
 xCosmic Voidx
 Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
 
 86
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.04 23:20:00 -
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 Can we just eliminate teir progression for suits. Let everyone be in a prototype suit. How about that for balance.
 
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        |  taxi bastard
 jihad taxi co.
 
 186
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.04 23:22:00 -
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 i could afford to proto, but 99% of the time i do pubs and do well with standard and advanced.
 
 i wish CCP limited pubs to standard gear and bellow
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        |  Monkey MAC
 Rough Riders..
 
 3242
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.04 23:37:00 -
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 wiseguy12 wrote:CCP just wondering if STD gear is meant for pubs or not. In all Logical scenarios STD gear is well suited for pubs because proto is just to expensive. I, on average, make about 210,000 isk a match and that is less than a proto suit. So tell me why do people proto stomp. My squad occasionally just hunts these protos and kills them numerous times, But they still persist.
 
 
 STD gear - average cost: 13,000 ISK
 Average payout assuming in top 5 and a Win: 180,000-220,000
 Average payout assuming in top 5 and a Loss: 125,000-170,000
 Average deaths against Proto Stomping Team: 12+
 Payout Win (unlikely): 44,000 ISK
 Payout Loss: -10,000 ISK
 
 PRO gear - average cost +120,000 ISK
 Average payout assuming in top 5 and a Win: 200,000-280,000
 Average payout assuming in top 5 and a Loss: 180,000-230,000
 Average deaths against normal enemy team: 0 (died twice was instantly revived)
 Payout Win (likely): 240,000 ISK
 Payout Loss: 195,000 ISK
 
 This should pretty much explain it to you!
 
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        |  Thurak1
 Psygod9
 
 880
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.05 00:19:00 -
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 Monkey MAC wrote:wiseguy12 wrote:CCP just wondering if STD gear is meant for pubs or not. In all Logical scenarios STD gear is well suited for pubs because proto is just to expensive. I, on average, make about 210,000 isk a match and that is less than a proto suit. So tell me why do people proto stomp. My squad occasionally just hunts these protos and kills them numerous times, But they still persist.
 
 STD gear - average cost: 13,000 ISK Average payout assuming in top 5 and a Win: 180,000-220,000 Average payout assuming in top 5 and a Loss: 125,000-170,000 Average deaths against Proto Stomping Team: 12+ Payout Win (unlikely): 44,000 ISK Payout Loss: -10,000 ISK PRO gear - average cost +120,000 ISK Average payout assuming in top 5 and a Win: 200,000-280,000 Average payout assuming in top 5 and a Loss: 180,000-230,000 Average deaths against normal enemy team: 0 (died twice was instantly revived) Payout Win (likely): 240,000 ISK Payout Loss: 195,000 ISK This should pretty much explain it to you! 
 I like this comparison.
 I normally run standards gear and maybe an advanced weapon.
 I never worry about kdr in a match and i nearly always make money.
 The player base is getting chock full of newbs and i have had multiple matches lately where i have no deaths at all.
 
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        |  wiseguy12
 Ancient Legion
 
 61
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.05 15:24:00 -
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 Ok I don't have a problem with proto stomp I can hold my own with most proto because my skills are very high. I was just wondering what every one else thought on this. I run a basic RR or Exile most the time.
 
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        |  Sgt Kirk
 Fatal Absolution
 
 6950
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.05 15:37:00 -
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 Metal Gear?
 
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        |  Nocturnal Soul
 Immortal Retribution
 
 3796
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.05 15:43:00 -
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 Just use advance gear for pubs.
 
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