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        |  Knight Soiaire
 Fatal Absolution
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 5634
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.03 18:57:00 -
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 A lot of people are still complaining about this? Why? What else can people spend their ISK on? Why would people spend months getting this gear and not use it? And any problems with these guys getting thrown into battles with newbs is due to CCP's **** non-existent matchmaking.
 
 Why are people complaining about it, srsly. What else is there to spend ISK on? (Stupid ideas aside)
 
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        |  Heimdallr69
 Nyain San
 
 2947
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.03 19:04:00 -
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 Proto makes bad players good.. Logic
 Hoard your isk like me.
 
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        |  Robocop Junior
 Condotta Rouvenor
 Gallente Federation
 
 467
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.03 19:05:00 -
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 Exactly. Usually the difference between adv & proto is so minimal except the price.
 
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        |  Knight Soiaire
 Fatal Absolution
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 5634
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.03 19:07:00 -
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 Heimdallr69 wrote:Proto makes bad players good.. LogicHoard your isk like me.
 
 But why? What would I spend it on?
 
 I'm free! /o/ | 
      
      
        |  Robocop Junior
 Condotta Rouvenor
 Gallente Federation
 
 467
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.03 19:08:00 -
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 No. Shared scans, cloaks, vehicles, stacked squads, etc. Those make bad players good. At this point most can proto out an advanced suit anyways. Proto itself was never the issue.
 
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        |  jenza aranda
 BetaMax.
 
 3447
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.03 19:09:00 -
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 Bad players need to blame their loosing constantly on something, its clearly not their playing ability so it must be the suits they are wearing!
 
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        |  BlazeXYZ
 xCosmic Voidx
 Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
 
 77
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.03 19:11:00 -
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 Knight Soiaire wrote:A lot of people are still complaining about this? Why? What else can people spend their ISK on? Why would people spend months getting this gear and not use it? And any problems with these guys getting thrown into battles with newbs is due to CCP's **** non-existent matchmaking.
 Why are people complaining about it, srsly. What else is there to spend ISK on? (Stupid ideas aside)
 
 
 I stopped running prototype beccause first off i don't have enough isk. People who are filthy rich just use proto gear because they need to burn off that isk and still have enough to keep on using proto. Also, respecting other mercs. Since this game has std. adv. and proto there's clearly a huge inbalance. If your in an adv. suit and got killed by an all out proto gear merc, there's actually an excuse for that because he had better gear. Why not everyone require in one role and eliminate tiers. Make everyone be in a prototype suit then there is a significant balance. Do anyone agree?
 
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        |  True Adamance
 Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
 12535
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.03 19:32:00 -
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 BlazeXYZ wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:A lot of people are still complaining about this? Why? What else can people spend their ISK on? Why would people spend months getting this gear and not use it? And any problems with these guys getting thrown into battles with newbs is due to CCP's **** non-existent matchmaking.
 Why are people complaining about it, srsly. What else is there to spend ISK on? (Stupid ideas aside)
 I stopped running prototype beccause first off i don't have enough isk. People who are filthy rich just use proto gear because they need to burn off that isk and still have enough to keep on using proto. Also, respecting other mercs. Since this game has std. adv. and proto there's clearly a huge inbalance. If your in an adv. suit and got killed by an all out proto gear merc, there's actually an excuse for that because he had better gear. Why not everyone require in one role and eliminate tiers. Make everyone be in a prototype suit then there is a significant balance. Do anyone agree? 
 Because when CCP did that last in Dust they ****** up tanks.
 
 "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon | 
      
      
        |  Patrick57
 Fatal Absolution
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 7989
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.03 21:28:00 -
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 Heimdallr69 wrote:Proto makes bad players good.. LogicHoard your isk like me.
 Proto makes everybody better. Bad players will be better, and good players will be better.
 
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        |  soulreaper73
 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
 
 1040
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.03 21:37:00 -
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 at this point in this game's dying days, if someone wants to run proto, then god bless them. ive never complained about someone having an advantage over me with their super hp on shield and armor. it just made taking them out that much more satisfying.
 
 as far as the proto suits making players better, no that is not the case, it just makes them able to absorb more bullets than normal so they do not die as often. this does not make them good, bad players in proto will still be bad, they will just not be as bad.
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        |  Egonz4
 DARKSTAR ARMY
 
 420
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.03 21:41:00 -
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 The fact that they are unstoppable in a squad when their suits will always win the other noobs....they're pretty much the reason dust us dying....but then again, that wouldn't be a problem if the matchmaking system worked....plus if we had the isk...we'd all do it at least once cuz winning feels good
 
 Master of The Flaylock | 
      
      
        |  Leanna Boghin
 Paradox Pride
 
 303
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.03 21:52:00 -
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 Knight Soiaire wrote:A lot of people are still complaining about this? Why? What else can people spend their ISK on? Why would people spend months getting this gear and not use it? And any problems with these guys getting thrown into battles with newbs is due to CCP's **** non-existent matchmaking.
 Why are people complaining about it, srsly. What else is there to spend ISK on? (Stupid ideas aside)
 The butthurt surfers are always gonna whine if they die to proto just get used to it. If you have it use it that includes proto. And if no one likes it then keep doing it just to **** them off (i do anyways) and watch them cry
  
 I let my sniper rifle bullet to your face do all the talking :P | 
      
      
        |  RYN0CER0S
 Rise Of Old Dudes
 
 829
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.03 22:11:00 -
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 Proto for show, but Militia will getcha.
 
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        |  Joel II X
 Dah Gods O Bacon
 
 2776
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.03 22:17:00 -
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 Wow. Haven't seen this thread in months!
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        |  Thurak1
 Psygod9
 
 877
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.03 22:43:00 -
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 jenza aranda wrote:Bad players need to blame their loosing constantly on something, its clearly not their playing ability so it must be the suits they are wearing! But but i feel so awesome taking out protos with my standard gear :) so clearly proto is awesome stuff that really makes of breaks a match.
 I love taking out multi million isk tanks with my sica.
 Or with my standard forge gun that is actually named forge gun.
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        |  Ahkhomi Cypher
 Opus Arcana
 Covert Intervention
 
 185
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.03 22:46:00 -
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 if you got it use it.
 why would you play a fighting game and not use your entire moveset or all your meters?
 why would you play a sports game and not use your best players or plays?
 why would you play a shooter and not use your best gun?
 Nobody is stopping you from using the Niners or Seahawks.
 Nobody is stopping you from picking Magneto, Storm and Psylocke or some type of Morrigan/DrDoom team.
 
 
 
 Opus Arcana | TBD Ringleader | Yep Squad Spokesman | 
      
      
        |  Robocop Junior
 Condotta Rouvenor
 Gallente Federation
 
 474
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.03 22:57:00 -
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 Nerf Magneto.
 
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        |  hold that
 Krusual Covert Operators
 Minmatar Republic
 
 171
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.03 23:08:00 -
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 Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:if you got it use it.why would you play a fighting game and not use your entire moveset or all your meters?
 why would you play a sports game and not use your best players or plays?
 why would you play a shooter and not use your best gun?
 Nobody is stopping you from using the Niners or Seahawks.
 Nobody is stopping you from picking Magneto, Storm and Psylocke or some type of Morrigan/DrDoom team.
 
 
 dat mvc2 logic
 
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        |  Killar-12
 The Corporate Raiders
 Top Men.
 
 3120
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.03 23:29:00 -
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 Egonz4 wrote:The fact that they are unstoppable in a squad when their suits will always win the other noobs....they're pretty much the reason dust us dying....but then again, that wouldn't be a problem if the matchmaking system worked....plus if we had the isk...we'd all do it at least once cuz winning feels good then make the money... because it's out there you just have you be able to make it...
 
 I am an Idiot, and so are you! | 
      
      
        |  Heimdallr69
 Nyain San
 
 2949
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.04 00:38:00 -
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 soulreaper73 wrote:at this point in this game's dying days, if someone wants to run proto, then god bless them. ive never complained about someone having an advantage over me with their super hp on shield and armor. it just made taking them out that much more satisfying. 
 as far as the proto suits making players better, no that is not the case, it just makes them able to absorb more bullets than normal so they do not die as often. this does not make them good, bad players in proto will still be bad, they will just not be as bad.
 Wow I got everyone else then you showed up..
  you can still see through my trolls. 
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        |  DaBOMB dotCOM
 Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors
 
 246
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.04 00:59:00 -
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 Proto in pub = Youre a poopie head
 
 LET THE INVASION BEGIN! ~~ Magic~~~ | 
      
      
        |  Onesimus Tarsus
 I-am-a-Corporation
 
 2415
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.04 01:12:00 -
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 Is not what you wear, it's what effect you have on the match that counts.
 
 K/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period. It even fixes WP/D(r).
Beh! | 
      
      
        |  danthrax martin
 Butcher's Nails
 
 105
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.04 01:13:00 -
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 The little extra a pro suit gives me is put forth to make a good showing of myself. I usually log in when JP:30 is in full swing. 1UP,NS, and such. Try and make them pay, eh? Otherwise it's adv or less depending on the roster.
 
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        |  ACT1ON BASTARD
 Amarr Templars
 Amarr Empire
 
 45
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.04 02:36:00 -
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 Heimdallr69 wrote:Proto makes bad players good.. LogicHoard your isk like me.
 Or it makes good players better? I spent all that time working towards proto and im not gonna use it, youre kidding right?
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        |  Rowdy Railgunner
 Capital Acquisitions LLC
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 447
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.04 02:44:00 -
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 I have 6 mil in my account and I run BPO and proto. Everything else is just not even worth fitting. BPO when I am just shitting around and proto when I want those speed hacks or to leash 2 heavies and watch them roll over you. Sometimes I even run my proto scout with stupid fits on it just to see how it works out, and my nest logi with a mass driver, 3 nanos and an uplink is just silly.
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        |  Espartoi
 Orkz Clan
 
 308
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.04 02:45:00 -
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 ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Proto makes bad players good.. LogicHoard your isk like me.
 Or it makes good players better? I spent all that time working towards proto and im not gonna use it, youre kidding right? 
 Jewish people don't spend their money even if is virtual.
 
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        |  KA24DERT
 TeamPlayers
 
 615
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.04 03:08:00 -
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 There's no problem with using Proto, aside from it being very expensive and wasteful.
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        |  KING CHECKMATE
 Opus Arcana
 Covert Intervention
 
 5643
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.04 03:27:00 -
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 Heimdallr69 wrote:Proto makes bad players good.. Logic.
 
 LOL. NOT TRUE.
 
 The best Damage mod is a HEADSHOT.... | 
      
      
        |  Mr Hakyou
 
 35
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.04 03:31:00 -
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 You think you're having problems with proto?
 
 I told myself I'd quit when I'm out of ISK... so ever since fanfest I've been only proto... and I've made 10 mil.
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        |  Heimdallr69
 Nyain San
 
 2949
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.04 03:43:00 -
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 Woah you guys suck. Only 1 person caught the troll. I'll be forward this time.. I like proto I has billions of isk so I run proto and make more isk to buy more proto.
 
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        |  Beastlina
 Ostrakon Agency
 Gallente Federation
 
 42
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.04 03:48:00 -
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 Knight Soiaire wrote:A lot of people are still complaining about this? Why? What else can people spend their ISK on? Why would people spend months getting this gear and not use it? And any problems with these guys getting thrown into battles with newbs is due to CCP's **** non-existent matchmaking.
 Why are people complaining about it, srsly. What else is there to spend ISK on? (Stupid ideas aside)
 
 It's probably more the fact that when people ask for more ways to get sp and isk from ccp all the vets who already have mountains of isk and sp to run proto are against it claiming it would unfair for all the time and hard work they put in. If they would rather see the games community dwindle because they want to keep what is basically a level advantage, rather than allowing new players a competitive chance then that's on them. Skill helps, teamwork helps, but in a FPS game more damage/hp is a huge advantage. You are killing them faster/living longer in a FPS game. Some mmo players can't really grasp that but it's w/e.
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        |  soulreaper73
 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
 
 1044
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.04 11:36:00 -
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 Heimdallr69 wrote:soulreaper73 wrote:at this point in this game's dying days, if someone wants to run proto, then god bless them. ive never complained about someone having an advantage over me with their super hp on shield and armor. it just made taking them out that much more satisfying. 
 as far as the proto suits making players better, no that is not the case, it just makes them able to absorb more bullets than normal so they do not die as often. this does not make them good, bad players in proto will still be bad, they will just not be as bad.
 Wow I got everyone else then you showed up..   you can still see through my trolls. 
 i was bored.
  
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        |  BigStuarty
 Namtar Elite
 Gallente Federation
 
 29
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.04 14:26:00 -
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 Am I alone ... the only beef Ive got is cloaking ... not the principle but the mechanics .... its an easy kill tool unless youre attacking head on or got caught out doing youre devilish tricks, the rest ...is minor make a hulk of a tank with 250db show up passively please... alittle too much range on HMG that's it ..... I am a beta vet and there is counters to everything ...sure you got the glichers out there but hell they are a small minoritiy and get found out,,, with regards to proto .... you've earnt it wear it, ... simple .. I personally run advanced as for every ten suits I may lose against 1 proto is simply not cost effective but in turn I will use proto equipment some ppl use a proto gun or nades etc.... what you do with your suit set up is your choice so don't let ppl bully you otherwise ,,, ITS YOUR CHOICE,,,,, new players should not enter the general population until 5mill SP where hopefully they are aqquainted with the game and worked their core upgrades.... RUN PROTO WITH PRIDE .... YOUVE EARNT THE RIGHT
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        |  Justin Tymes
 Dem Durrty Boyz
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 733
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.04 14:37:00 -
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 I run proto because I can't even use proto hives without it on Amarr Logisuit.
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        |  Egonz4
 DARKSTAR ARMY
 
 420
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.04 14:40:00 -
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 Killar-12 wrote:Egonz4 wrote:The fact that they are unstoppable in a squad when their suits will always win the other noobs....they're pretty much the reason dust us dying....but then again, that wouldn't be a problem if the matchmaking system worked....plus if we had the isk...we'd all do it at least once cuz winning feels good then make the money... because it's out there you just have you be able to make it... Yeah but ..IDK it feels funner using plasma cannons and Flaylock or Drop ships so....I'm just waiting for charlie and delta
 
 Master of The Flaylock | 
      
      
        |  BigStuarty
 Namtar Elite
 Gallente Federation
 
 29
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.04 14:43:00 -
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 Justin Tymes wrote:I run proto because I can't even use proto hives without it on Amarr Logisuit. 
 core upgrades ... they fit ok on my AK.1 Series
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