Its not bad, you just have to be fast and aim well. No op fits to exploit. The balance is incredibly refreshing

That IS a lot of players.
Not even COD can get that many players regularly, only on launch day.

The most played game on steam, Dota 2, peaked at 735,000 players today.

Beta on console typically means demo.

We wasted our Beta trying to get a link to work.

As for what Sony is doing; they're throwing more money at CCP, pay more attention to the business meetings.

Destiny is too small.

Destiny is a 60$ DEMO cause its gonna be F2P at launch anyway

Just saying that I know bungie and loved the studio for as long as I was knew their games.

Destiny is the first bungie game in a very long time I felt like was missing the what made it a bungie game.

The game is plagued with many concerns that I normally don't express for games. How pvp is divulging to one method. How pve is divulging to one method. The content rate felt exceptionally thinned. Hub is a confusing mess of a design that begs to be more like mass effect but falls massively short. I have a funny feeling that there is no talking animations and despite having such a large budget it seems they couldn't afford someone's motion capture face.

The art director had to be napping as well or never attended any of the lore discussions nor did any study on urban decay. Even the moon felt wrongfully dated and jarring. Character (PC and NPC) designs are amongst the weakest I seen in a while and combined with what I am hoping to whatever entities are out there is an incomplete tease to lore. (if this fear becomes true I don't know what to say but the tease was a goddam trainwreck; PR needs to be fired) Layout of most of the maps was poorly done and doesn't favor or encourage the various types of game play. There is only 1 class but thats based on the first 8 lvls this I hope is a beta only concern but I don't see how things will differ at end game. Overall I felt that the internal test teams and developers are so full of themselves they don't know how to fail and won't admit when they're screwing up or doing something that isn't vibing right and maybe the long stranded success of halo has made them forget their cores values. The 343 departure didn't take too much talent from Bungie but if what did depart to 343 is the reason why bungie seemed to has lost may have been their lynch pin.

Bottom line; Destiney does not feel like it was worth its price tag nor the cancellation of another game that many more fans where looking forward to that well into development as to not compete against it.

Enough of that I am not going to do a 1001 things wrong with Destiney like I used to do with Dust (but I have plans to resume this for legion)

Destiny does not need skills to aim.
On pve, you can do whatever you want. Its really hard to die. Like going against easies bots.
Pvp is who first sees wins. You just few shoot everyone. Even better you can just run and mele whole team (team of 6 players. Dust have 16. Su..k on that Destiny :])

beta numbers are always inflated due to curiosity and them being free. regardless, i expect destiny will sell well.

pvp is 1st sees who 1st yea...........if ur a ******* snail
u have a good chunk of health in Destiny very easy to turn on ppl

Ill never understand ppl fascination with playercount like that makes the game smh
having 4v4,6v6,16v16,128v128 doesnt matter if the game is terrible

Lots of ppl argument is "oh i got a big clan i wanna play with my clan mates" then form smaller set fireteams within ur clan dumbass its not rocket science.
I have a clan of around 28 members and we have 3 set competitive teams of 8 for Destiny for clan matches and nothing stopped us from squaddin up with everyone to pub regardless of teams

ppl who like to use that are ppl that just wanna zerg with all their members

casually big games are aight but for any kinda organised play big games are some of the most ******** cuz it comes down to alot of zerging and spam tactics.

4v4-8v8 is fine for clan v clan games, anything bigger ppl just start being ******** with how they play and it becomes a joke instead of taking any kinda teamwork and skill

If watch dogs can sell over 8M then Destiny will easily surpass that imo
the game is alot more fun and caters to alot more variety of players than watch dogs
Crucible and PvE were extremely fun for me

we'll be YTing it and livestreaming it alot

numberz is right, while you dont have your dust carebear suit to give you a false sense of security, you do have enough health to turn on someone who saw you first. i also agree that the smaller numbers actually takes more teamwork as it eliminates the zerg tactics. the old corp battles in chromosome were way more fun than the pc matches in dust in my opinion. then again, i always had good players carrying my scrubby rear

Watchdogs sold that many copies? I expect destiny to beat that. They have the Bungie reputation behind them, and like you said, the game caters to many more types of gamers.

yup apparently Watch Dogs sold over 8M across PS3, PS4, XB360 and XB1 oh and PC
think PS4 alone was like 3 or 4M

Destiny should easily beat that imo, i just hope we get private matches at launch so clan battles can take place early