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Symbioticforks
Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.02 00:34:00 -
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You're changing the dot for the sniper rifle in Hotfix Charlie.
new sniper rifle dot
I would really appreciate it if you could please address some concerns.
It appears the dot is larger. If the dot is larger and functions the same way as it always has. The entire thing will light up red when an enemy enters the circumference. However this would create a false positive on when to fire. The bullet has not become any larger, and unless they were in the very center of your "new and improved dot" you would miss.
or
It appears the dot is larger. If the dot is larger and functions the same way it always has. The entire thing will light up red when an enemy is in the direct line of fire. However this would make things worse when it comes to lining up shots on moving targets because an accurate dead center point of reference has been completely removed and replaced by the "guestimation circle of poor aiming" .
Can you please describe how this will function when it comes to..
- Moving Targets
- Head Shots on Moving Targets
- Partially Covered Targets
^^CCP IGNORES ALL SNIPER RELATED ISSUES^^
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.08.02 00:46:00 -
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* While investigating, please ninja in an increase to sniper rifle headshot multiplier :-)
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Shooter Somewhere
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.02 01:01:00 -
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keep the dot small and tiny a hollow circle will be all around confusing for moving targets and even targets that aren't even moving.
Sometimes a see a sniper in my rail tank and my little white dot to him until it turns red and fire and the shot goes past his dang face and im pretty sure a railgun shot is bigger then a sniper bullet
HEADSHOT! HEADSHOT!! HEADSHOT!!! HEADSHOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Symbioticforks
Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.02 12:59:00 -
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*cough*
If you want to fix sniping, consult those who snipe.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.02 17:57:00 -
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In a way, this is an indirect nerf to redline sniping, while buffing closer (less than 450 meter) sniping
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
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gauntlet44 LbowDeep
Heaven84 Devils General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.02 18:03:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:In a way, this is an indirect nerf to redline sniping, while buffing closer (less than 450 meter) sniping
their face should fill the circle at 300 meters when counting the zoom. and the thales at 300 you should see the fear in their eye
Absorb what is useful,
discard what is not,
make it uniquely your own........ Bruce Lee
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Zindorak
1.U.P
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Posted - 2014.08.02 22:19:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:* While investigating, please ninja in an increase to sniper rifle headshot multiplier :-) no thanks
Master of the Scrambler Pistol. Carthum Assault ScP <3
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Symbioticforks
Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.03 03:25:00 -
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Shameless bump.
If you want to fix sniping, consult those who snipe.
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Symbioticforks
Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.03 15:30:00 -
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is this what a deleted scene feels like?
If you want to fix sniping, consult those who snipe.
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Symbioticforks
Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.03 22:34:00 -
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I feel like a ghost has stabbed me with an icicle.
If you want to fix sniping, consult those who snipe.
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Symbioticforks
Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.04 17:35:00 -
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Hrmmm?
If you want to fix sniping, consult those who snipe.
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TheEnd762
SVER True Blood Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.08.04 19:52:00 -
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Let's have some answers here. |
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Symbioticforks
Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.06 23:24:00 -
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Hey! Listen!
If you want to fix sniping, consult those who snipe.
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Symbioticforks
Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.07 00:00:00 -
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^ ^ ^
If you want to fix sniping, consult those who snipe.
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Mr Hakyou
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Posted - 2014.08.07 01:27:00 -
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Unfortunately... one of the new representatives at CCP is strictly anti-sniper.
Hotfix Charlie
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Juno Tristan
Inner.Hell
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Posted - 2014.08.07 02:50:00 -
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Have I missed why they want to change it? |
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Symbioticforks
Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.07 03:19:00 -
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it's simply because they can, nobody asked for it.
If you want to fix sniping, consult those who snipe.
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OP FOTM
Commando Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.08.07 06:12:00 -
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Haven't used my LR in a while but...
pretty sure it doesn't light up red? maybe I'm wrong?
Dust servers will be a ghost town on 09/09/14
Destiny kicks ass... Like Halo knocked up Mass Effect and gave birth
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Symbioticforks
Pure Evil.
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Posted - 2014.08.12 04:15:00 -
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Not giving up on this one. |
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Cass Caul
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Posted - 2014.08.12 04:49:00 -
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OP FOTM wrote:Haven't used my LR in a while but...
pretty sure it doesn't light up red? maybe I'm wrong?
IIRC it lights up when you touch the outside of the reticle.
Math is easy, you're just stupid.
The Empress of Alts
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Symbioticforks
Pure Evil.
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Posted - 2014.08.13 04:43:00 -
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CCP Logibro you're making this difficult..
I guess I'm going to be forced to test out this new dot of yours.
I can't imagine the things I'll have to do to get it changed back to the original dot should it not be a change for the better.
I don't even want to think about the amount of support I'll have to drum up.
I know a bunch of snipers who don't even use the forums. and it shouldn't be my responsibility to goad them into coming here.
Instead I suggest you come play Dust 514 with us, the players.
*throws down the gauntlet*
Sniping Dust 514 (video series)
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Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
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Posted - 2014.08.13 05:14:00 -
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Symbioticforks wrote:Hey! Listen!
Quiet Navi... You are annoying me while I'm trying to get into Princess Zelda's pants!
But I agree, I may not be a full time sniper but It does raise a few concerns.
Legionhares Unite!
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Minion Max
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.08.13 18:17:00 -
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I snipe 95% and tank support the other 5%, and would like to be able to switch between the two depending on that I am trying to hit and at what range.
Semper Fi.
Cpl, 87-95
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Zindorak
1.U.P
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Posted - 2014.08.13 18:26:00 -
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i like this on it makes sniping easier
Pokemon master
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Badnewz Anstian
Insidious Behavior
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Posted - 2014.08.16 02:53:00 -
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Perhaps as with all new updates these things will get easier with time, Symbiotic brought up some very good questions, so far i can say that hitting a moving target is proving to be much more difficult than before, headshots while still possible are less frequent, I think hitting a person in free fall from a building will be impossible now ( yes... it was possible before) total number of kills has dropped per game, at least for me, I have found myself switching to different suits now, leaving my sniper behind, if that was the goal then congrats, right now, i would say bring back the old reticle or come up with another that allows precision, or like I said before, maybe with time it will prove to be ok. |
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.08.16 04:35:00 -
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Holy **** a reasonable and well written post about how something is broken.
Member of a Dead Alliance and Dead Corp Coming through, still better than you FOTM corp hopping whores
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jace silencerww
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.17 07:30:00 -
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CCP fix the sniper dot please. even changing it back is better then this sight. |
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Symbioticforks
Pure Evil.
577
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Posted - 2014.08.17 07:36:00 -
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Symbioticforks wrote:Not giving up on this one.
called it.
Sniping Dust 514 (video series)
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TechMechMeds
Level 5 Forum Warrior
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Posted - 2014.08.17 14:46:00 -
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Maybe the Thales and charged should have the dot and the others have the circle.
The circle for short-mid ranged.
The dot for long range and quite rightly on the charged and thales only.
?.
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There's, uh, two women f ing a polar bear".
"Don't tell me those things".
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Snake Sellors
Hellstorm Inc General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.17 15:18:00 -
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i think the best fix would just be to shrink the circle, as a best of both fix.
if that's too awkward then ijust bring back the dot please never had a problem with it anyway.
unfortunately olks we seem to be seeing alot of anti sniper players now pretending to like this scope as snipers... wouldn't be as bad but they are still on the characters they have been using to verbal bash snipers for the last year or so.![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) |
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Haerr
Legio DXIV
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Posted - 2014.08.17 15:28:00 -
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Can we try having the HMG dot for the sniper rifle? I would prefer any dot over the circle and I would prefer a smaller dot over a larger one. |
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jace silencerww
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.18 19:37:00 -
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is there any way we can get ahold of ccp logibro and have them change the sight back? It is funny the top snipers in the game hate this sight yet CCP is not listening. If any of ccp answer this post I am putting in a ticket until I get ccp to answer this post better idea every one of us should do that. until we can get ccp logibro in here to answer what Symbioticforks said about the new sight. |
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Snake Sellors
Hellstorm Inc General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.18 20:12:00 -
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to be fair they did say that it was an experiment that they would change back if it didn't work,
i just have a bad feeling we could be stuck with it until delta though.
i would really like for that to not happen....
any chance of getting it changed before then?
(especially if your going to do anything new, because it would be better to get the experimental side out of the way so they can be finished with the delta hotfix.) |
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jace silencerww
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.20 06:57:00 -
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LOL still no answer from CCP logibro. I am going to keep pushing this topic to the front by doing the "up" bit |
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jace silencerww
Inner.Hell
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Posted - 2014.08.21 06:45:00 -
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up |
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jace silencerww
Inner.Hell
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Posted - 2014.08.21 22:51:00 -
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lol up again |
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jace silencerww
Inner.Hell
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Posted - 2014.08.23 00:34:00 -
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this is getting old but oh well up again lol
CCP Logibro wont answer this post because Why he know we have great points so I am calling him out to talk to us about this |
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jace silencerww
Inner.Hell
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Posted - 2014.08.23 22:38:00 -
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"upping this again" I am calling out CCP Logibro answer us. I hate the new sight with a passion. I used to miss maybe 1-2 of 5 shots now I hit 1-2 shots. lighting up red saying you can hit and it missing because the reds arm was just inside the sight but not in the center where the bullet hits.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.23 22:54:00 -
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Snake Sellors wrote:i think the best fix would just be to shrink the circle, as a best of both fix. if that's too awkward then ijust bring back the dot please never had a problem with it anyway. unfortunately olks we seem to be seeing alot of anti sniper players now pretending to like this scope as snipers... wouldn't be as bad but they are still on the characters they have been using to verbal bash snipers for the last year or so. ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) Im pro snipers but I really do like this scope...i seriously don't understand how others don't....
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.23 23:15:00 -
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It feels like snipers are quite content with the old scope aside from keeping the new one on the tactical, no?
Creating variants with each scope is not probable.
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gauntlet44 LbowDeep
Heaven84 Devils General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.24 00:15:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:It feels like snipers are quite content with the old scope aside from keeping the new one on the tactical, no?
Creating variants with each scope is not probable.
how many share the same zoom level? i would want a different reticule for each zoom level
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discard what is not,
make it uniquely your own........ Bruce Lee
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Snake Sellors
Hellstorm Inc General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.24 00:30:00 -
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You folk do realise that logibro has gotten back to us with some better scope suggestions in the sticky threads?
These ones do look better than the original one |
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
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Posted - 2014.08.24 00:39:00 -
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Symbioticforks wrote:Can you please describe how this will function when it comes to..
- Moving Targets
- Head Shots on Moving Targets
- Partially Covered Targets
The target will be just like the old target in every aspect except it is a tiny little circle instead of a tiny little dot.
Terrain glitches still work. Meaning terrain textures are still incorrect and draw overlays might cover a target you think you can see.
Target pip/circle goes red even though the target is behind two buildings. Just confirmed that today 23/8/14.
Target draw distance is still less than sniper rifle range in many instances. And shooting based on the pip being orange see above.
Hope this helps. It won't of course. Nothing helps in dust. ![Pirate](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_pirate.png)
And so it goes.
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ak tak
Gallactic Security Force
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Posted - 2014.08.25 02:40:00 -
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I agree that the new sniper rifle reticule is not working. I too want the old red dot back. My kill rate reduced considerably and though I have already "adapted" to the new circle It gives much more eye strain as I need to focus much more than before.
BTW I do snipe over 90% of the time.
Also I do feel that overall, snipers got nerfed as a result of a mix of the update to the assault suit and this new reticule.
Even though I use a mix of complex, enhanced and militia modifiers I can't one/two shot with my charged sniper most of the time anymore as I used to.
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jace silencerww
Inner.Hell
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Posted - 2014.08.26 02:10:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:It feels like snipers are quite content with the old scope aside from keeping the new one on the tactical, no?
Creating variants with each scope is not probable.
that is no good. changing the scopes on different variants stinks due to snipers would choose one type for the scope over the one they are best with. |
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jace silencerww
Inner.Hell
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Posted - 2014.08.26 02:13:00 -
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ak tak wrote:I agree that the new sniper rifle reticule is not working. I too want the old red dot back. My kill rate reduced considerably and though I have already "adapted" to the new circle It gives much more eye strain as I need to focus much more than before.
BTW I do snipe over 90% of the time.
Also I do feel that overall, snipers got nerfed as a result of a mix of the update to the assault suit and this new reticule.
Even though I use a mix of complex, enhanced and militia modifiers I can't one/two shot with my charged sniper most of the time anymore as I used to.
sniper rifles was never nerfed but to changes to suits, bonuses, armor plates and etc. and all the changes acted as a nerfed. |
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