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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.07.31 21:14:00 -
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emm kay wrote:The role of pilot takes the (arguably) most skill of any other vehiclist in the game.
All the arguments i see are "all you have to do is activate your afterburner" or 'all you pilots just run'. And to that I question you this; how does a dropship that runs manage to kill you? Just by flying in the air we presume huge risks that blue berries don't have to worry about, such as:
1) surprise forge gun
2) confined spaces
3) installations (seriously, redline installations are BS OP already) hitting you from 600 meters
4) new installation AI ( blueberries may have to be concerned about this)
5) rail tanks
6) kamikaze pilots
7) the mcc (plink.... Boom!)
8) heavies beating our shields' passive regen (i hate this, personally)
9) other, friendly pilots
10) layers and layers and layers of swarms
I've died to all these things atleast once, and they are real threats that we watch out for in real time. Not only do we have to watch out for every one of those, there is no cover for us! If we get hit by a forge, our only option is to run, kill, or die. Most often you will see the run or die actions, however, once in a brave while you'll see a pilot who fighs off the threat (i'll admit, i rarely do this, ever) succesfully (even more rarely) and continue on their dropship day.
So, why do those who complain do so?
Not really. It's really the same role except you have slightly less EHP and can fly.
1.)Every vehiclist deals with surprise AV, don't pretend like you are special.
2.)Tanker have to deal with that too
3.)Yes I deal with Redline Rails too
4.)Again I deal with that and now have significantly less accurate blasters as compared to the turrets dead eye shooting
5.)Uh Duh..... Rail Tanks primary role is to bust other HAV, come off it mate
6.)JLAV except they are far more common and easier to pull off.
7.) Yeah fine I don't have to deal with a giant floating ship that fills half the skies...I stay on the map
8.) Can't argue with that
9.)Yeah Tankers can be dumb sobs as well
10.) If you think players hate ADS..... you should have seen their raging hardons when I drop tanks...
Lets not pretend like you have a swarthe of "personal issues" that other vehiclists don't........
emm kay wrote: there is no cover for us! If we get hit by a forge, our only option is to run, kill, or die
Oh good ******* lord mate......
"We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.07.31 22:51:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Patrick57 and I deployed our ADS into a Domination : I was at the other ground spawn flying over to patrick. Patrick was picking up squad mates. Then, out of nowhere, in our own redline, a kamikaze pilot blazes out of nowhere and takes out patrick. It was funny as **** but just goes to show the ultimate low blows pilots must deal with. Light Weapon AV may be underperforming against DS but all other forms are very viable.
Boo ******* hoo Bojo.
It's exactly the same as having to deal with JLAV's as a tanker. And I get told by people to HTFU about it, because lol double standard......
HTFU
"We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.07.31 23:02:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:True Adamance wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:Patrick57 and I deployed our ADS into a Domination : I was at the other ground spawn flying over to patrick. Patrick was picking up squad mates. Then, out of nowhere, in our own redline, a kamikaze pilot blazes out of nowhere and takes out patrick. It was funny as **** but just goes to show the ultimate low blows pilots must deal with. Light Weapon AV may be underperforming against DS but all other forms are very viable. Boo ******* hoo Bojo. It's exactly the same as having to deal with JLAV's as a tanker. And I get told by people to HTFU about it, because lol double standard...... HTFU Not really the same but I'll let you throw mud I've been in need of a makeover after all
It's exactly the same.
A fast vehicle ploughs into the side of your significantly more expensive vehicle with the purpose of instantly destroying you.....except in JLAVers cases most of the time they have BPO's.
"We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.07.31 23:13:00 -
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Atiim wrote:True Adamance wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:True Adamance wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:Patrick57 and I deployed our ADS into a Domination : I was at the other ground spawn flying over to patrick. Patrick was picking up squad mates. Then, out of nowhere, in our own redline, a kamikaze pilot blazes out of nowhere and takes out patrick. It was funny as **** but just goes to show the ultimate low blows pilots must deal with. Light Weapon AV may be underperforming against DS but all other forms are very viable. Boo ******* hoo Bojo. It's exactly the same as having to deal with JLAV's as a tanker. And I get told by people to HTFU about it, because lol double standard...... HTFU Not really the same but I'll let you throw mud I've been in need of a makeover after all It's exactly the same. A fast vehicle ploughs into the side of your significantly more expensive vehicle with the purpose of instantly destroying you.....except in JLAVers cases most of the time they have BPO's. In the case of Kamikaze DS vs Assault Dropships, the ADS has significantly better speed and acceleration, so I wouldn't really say "fast vehicle". Other than that, your pretty spot on.
Okay so ADS have one less reason to ***** about it.
"We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.07.31 23:31:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:True Adamance wrote:
It's exactly the same.
A fast vehicle ploughs into the side of your significantly more expensive vehicle with the purpose of instantly destroying you.....except in JLAVers cases most of the time they have BPO's.
It's not because an armor hardened gorgon can ram a Python and still survive. ADS also waaaaaaay more expensive than an HAV as of right now. Charlie will make a difference in that argument but no one knows the price adjustment. Seeing as how HAVs do not suffer from collision damage as severe as shield dropships and the HP disparity between an HAV and an LAV is much larger than MLT DS versus ADS you are talking about at least a chance to fend off the assailant. At least a chance. Honestly against everything else HAVs have it relatively easy by comparison to dropship mechanics. Both JLAVs and KDS are bullshit tactics but they are not the same in sense. Also my squad has been the victim of JLAV v. Methana so it's not as if JLAVs don't go beyond HAVs. YEAH, someone suicide LAVd another LAV because they couldn't kill it otherwise. It's not like I haven't been the victim of both.
Really?
I see them roughly costing the same amount.
323K ISK Hull
+ Turrets (if you use them)
+Modules
200K ISK Hull
+281K ISK Large Turret
+ Small Turrets (If you use them)
+ Modules (we have more slots)
By my reckoning the cost roughly the same amount. But lets not talk about costs.... I remember when my tanks cost 1.5+ Million ISK to even field.
"We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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