Besides just trolling I'd never touch gallente nor Cal scouts because I'm strictly Amarr oriented.

That or make it so cloak recharge is short and an a 1percent damp to cloaks for being a speeding assassin.

If Minjas get active damps then I want my 25 percent back on my Ganja!

Or is it Ginja?

I remember a time the "Pr0 l33t Scounts" said Amarr Scout is going to be OP with its initial bonuses. They couldn't have been more wrong.

Coupling NK damage, hacking bonuses, the fastest Stamina recharge rate, and the fastest movement values..... You guys quite frankly don't deserve any more that you already have.

We will have to see how Charlie goes, you never know, knives may actually become good.

I wouldn't be surprised if Min scouts are still lacking however.

If they need a buff, I would look at improving the hack bonus. I love the idea of having a hack bonus on a scout. The trouble is, hack speed is only really useful once you can hack very fast, and min scouts can't feasibly fit many codebreakers. In fact it seems better to fit other modules instead. 25% isn't a big enough bonus to compete with the other scout's EWAR bonuses. Also, bear in mind a min scout hacks more slowly than a min logi did back when they had the bonus. Maybe buff it to 7% per level or something. Hack speed just has less overall value than EWAR.

See how Charlie goes first though.

Unfortuneltly there was technical difficulties, making this impossible.

While i understand everyone on here's arguments against, I ask, why not?

How would this make the suit overpowered in any way shape or form?

How does it not contribute to a "hit-and-run" style ninja?

EDIT: Bor, i like the sig change

that'd be great except for the fact that Minjas dont have enough to fit a proto cloak to begin with

I just read all the posts so far... I must be missing something... Why no passive ewar for Min Scouts, like every other race gets.

I see where you're coming from shotty, and trust me, i don't want to make the minja OP, i really just want to make it viable.

Ill wait for Charlie, but when it comes out and minja's are the least used and most laughable suit on the field AGAIN, this bonus will need to be added.

Think for a second about what the implications are considering Haerr's scanning table. Now, scans were designed in such a manner that it would take two (2) low slots on each scout at the very least to remain under passives.

Now, with the minmitar scout, they need a cloak as well.

The idea behind the active damps bonus is that it frees up a low slot for the minja's out there by reducing the required damps to dodge passives by one, but maintaining the cloak requirement.

**ALSO: the gallogi focused would be able to scan a single damped cloaked minja**

All this does is allow them to fit more "ninja" modules (kin cats, code breakers) without having to worry as much about removing all of their viability simply to dodge scans.

Every other scout next patch receives some form of electronic sight bonus, therefore, the min should be best at what it was intended as--a speedy ass mofo running around creating havoc and picking off those who strayed away from the pack.

But remember, (and I'm sure we both agree here), a scanned scout is a DEAD scout.

By giving them an active damp bonus, you indirectly buff their speedy and hacking attributes, as all other modules that go in the low slots would just be stupid and hurt the min scout, other than perhaps an armor rep per and ferroscale, but this prevents them from taking advantage of their knifing bonus, as they will be slower than a single kincatted assault suit, making it nearly impossible to use NK's.

..... your point?

You already have bonuses that are designed to reflect the characteristic play style of a Minmatar scout.

Let me ask you this? When was the last time a Minmatar ship in EVE was any better or worse at cloaking than any other ship in the game?

Why do you even believe you deserve a bonus at all?

You have two good ones working for you now with the biotics to back them up. Sure you might lack EHP but thats no reason your cloaks should be better than anyone else's.

I actively petition CCP to give whining Min Scouts the Precision Bonus.

I'll take that hacking bonus off of your hands!

Precision on a 3+high slot scout is overpowered and unbalances inter-scout gameplay.

We don't want it. Only gal or am should have it if any.

EDIT: If we need to lose hacking to become viable, I'm fine with it. All the OG Minja's should agree with me to some extent, as all we used to have was NK damage.