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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
4650
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Posted - 2014.07.30 02:14:00 -
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I am Bojo and I represent the prosecution; scouts.
The common argument from the defendants, heavies, is that they require a super high dps weapon to counter shotgun scouts because shotgun scouts will, quote "just two shot them".
Your honor, I have here, exhibit A & B.
Exhibit A is the Creodron shotgun. It deals a DPS of 754.25. It has a damage profile of -10% Armor +10% Shields. It costs 93 CPU & 14 PG. It has a useful range of about 10 meters.This is the tool commonly used by the prosecution, to persecute heavies. Now, your honor, I unleash upon the court exhibit B. Exhibit B is the Boundless Heavy Machine gun. It deals a DPS of 792 and has a damage profile of -5% shields +10% armor. It also only costs 92 CPU & 10 PG. It has a useful range of up to forty meters, target dependent.
Your honor, as you can see here, the defendants have a weapon that is blatantly better than the prosecutions. It is less fitting intensive, has higher range, higher DPS, and given server circumstances it's higher RoF can beat broken hit detection better than a shotgun.
Now, your honor, please read over exhibit C. It is a maximum HP comparison between scouts and heavies. The hotfix charlie defendants will have HP upward of 1866.6. That does not factor in at all the splash resistances and other resistances granted to the heavy. Now compare that to the maximum HP of the Amarr scout: 1026.7.
While that number is field-tested to be a ****** scout, we will prosecute with the notion that it is as viable as any fit.
Now your honor seeing as how the heavy fits the HMG and the scout fits the shotgun:
Prosecution is outranged, outdps'd, and out HP'd by the heavy. Your honor even should we consider the radar advantage of the prosecution & other realistic factors the realism of a scout using 1026.7 HP is not there. We are considering these two, the prosecution & the defendant, mano y mano. Realistically the prosecution could gain the first strike your honor, but the realism of this fit in particular is just not there making the HP gap all the more greater and the advantage all the more so in favor of the defendant.
Prosecution rests your honor.
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
4657
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Posted - 2014.07.30 02:38:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:I love you bojo.
<3
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
4661
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Posted - 2014.07.30 03:00:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:10 Meters!?
Efficacy readout starts to drop at 5m.
Prosecution is generous.
Your honor, please recognize that radar does not distinguish suits meaning that the prosecution is unaware if they are dealing with a defendant or a bystander until visual contact is made.
Let it also be known that heavies can use any and every weapon in the game, thus any range counter is purely to the HMG and not to the defendant themselves.
Your honor the prosecution will admit that shotguns are easy to use once in proper range, much like the HMG. Very little aim is necessary thus hitbox size does not discern an advantage against the shotgun, similar to how the smaller hitbox of the prosecution does not discern an advantage against the large cone of the HMG.
Prosecution admits to using remote explosives but does not see how they are a prosecution specific problem, seeing as how they can be fit and used by any other suit shy of sentinels and heavy basic frames. At most, your honor, the remote explosive will deal 1750 damage which is countered by the 1866.6 HP & splash resistance of the defendant your honor.
Prosecution rests.
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
4661
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Posted - 2014.07.30 03:10:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:MythTanker wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:There's a militia hmg? Yea man i heard Gav killed a full proto squad of ERA one time, then he proceeded to kill 3 tanks and a MCC with it... No that was my melee fit scout.
Prosecution motions for a DPLAK
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
4676
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Posted - 2014.07.30 03:30:00 -
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MythTanker wrote:Your honor let it be known that when a suit is scanned that the prosecution can see excatly where the defendant is facing so that a sneaky and close ranged attack can occur which ties into...
Your honor let it be known that when the prosecution is in close range that with SP invested of course can kill the defendant in 2 shots with its SG, if done properly of course...
Your honor let it be known that yes a heavy can use weapons with range, but not only is it ineffective but it takes away from the CQC role and makes them into a slow, big, undampened target...
Your honor let it be known that a Remote explosive can kill most tanked suits and if not the inflicted suit can die swiftly from a few round with no effort required...
Objection your honor : Speculation
Proven time and time again that a heavy with a rail rifle is a super viable option and nowhere in development is the heavy referred to as a CQC suit. Especially considering forge gun tower snipers.
Objection your honor : Misleading speech
Second 1 will deplete shields and eat some armor. Second 2 will eat some armor but not the rest. Second 3 will finally finish a defendant. Defendant is using a misleading assumption that prosecution is landing headshots while defendant is not.
Prosecution admits scanning point. It is an advantage we have, it makes up for our lack of health; by design & intent.
Your honor defendant is differing from original suit of 1866 HP. It will take more than one remote to in fact kill that specific defendant. If the defendants continue to pursue alternate scenarios prosecution will revert to 200 HP suit as scenario for prosecution.
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
4680
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Posted - 2014.07.30 03:42:00 -
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Morathi III wrote:youe honoe has a shotgun scout since a while, with the newhotfix charlie, with the change to the heavy i think we will have a nice fix and balance in my opinion
Prosecution is using, in fact, the defendant from hot fix charlie as example. In hotfix charlie, while defendants will justly lose CPU/PG, will have an all new potential of 1866 HP without resistances factored. While prosecution shares your sentiments, there will in fact be a pinnacle of HP for the defendants.
Prosecution does not prosecute defendants for that case, merely that their QQ is unjustified both against Charlie hotfix and shotgun scouts.
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
4690
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Posted - 2014.07.30 05:17:00 -
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MythTanker wrote:Your honor a rifle heavy has been known to be viable AT RANGE, but what happens when a SG scout approaches the defendant and due to his slow suit can not strafe as fast and renders him useless...
Your honor let it be known that Remote explosives are a very powerful device and the only time it will fail is when it hits one of the most tanked suits just like a Hp stacking, strafing, SG scout who again only need 3 shots while normally giving the first one... Both counters can be countered...
Your honor, referencing previous court case, the famous Rifle v. Shotgun, it was ruled that no matter the suit, be it the defendant or the prosecutor or bystander, in Rifle v. Shotgun it is a universal problem that does not discriminate amongst suits and thus is not restricted to the defendant. We motion that defendants statement be dismissed on those grounds.
Members of the jury, we see again the ignorance of the defendant. While the defendant's claims that a shotgun can 3 shot a heavy suit are true, it was previously shown, exhibit A, that it takes just under 3 seconds to persecute the defendant with a CreoDron and it takes just over 1 second from the defendant to dispose of the prosecution. . . . . members of the jury do not let yourselves be mislead by the carefully chosen words of the defendant, carefully chosen words meant to mislead you to the conclusion that shotgun is better than HMG. Do not be lulled by curving words members of the jury.
Prosecution calls Xoyocaul to the stand your honor...
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
4699
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Posted - 2014.07.30 06:43:00 -
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Members of the jury, look beyond puppets and into the masters. Go beyond arguments, and delve into matters with your own hands. Look upon the battlefield and you will find the answers the prosecution has brought here. I want you, community, jury, to be an astute hawk and pick out details. Balance operates in minute changes best and we the prosecution are glad to see charlie on its way, however we ask that you investigate rather than ride a wave of tears.
Prosecution wants the community to realize that logic is running it's course as is. Heavies are not victims. Scouts are not victims. They are pieces of the game and when one does not work for the better who wants to use any piece but that piece? Let's progress towards a healthier ecosystem.
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
4706
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Posted - 2014.07.30 07:20:00 -
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Bayeth Mal wrote:*Hands the judge a piece of paper with the words "you forgot about shared passive scans" scrawled in what appears to be blood but more disturbingly isn't.*
*The judge discards the disgusting document and has Bayeth removed from the court.*
We all wish we could get those removed
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
4743
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Posted - 2014.07.30 17:18:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Take away the resistance to explosives.
Being able to spam MD wherever they are held up would do wonders. I was very surprised when I used my MD in a couple of PCs at how impossible it is to finish off heavies who are being repped. Like 10% armor and you can't out DPS the reps due to the resistances.
Will the bailiff please remove the witness. He will not participate in role play, your honor.
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
4763
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Posted - 2014.07.30 20:55:00 -
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ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:
So whats the point of this post scouts can turn invisible and sneak attack anyone. If youre looking for long range shotgun forget about it, use a combat rifle like most scouts if youre having trouble with heavies.
Prosecution has previously stated that the purpose of the case is to dispel the statements and claims proposed by the defendants as they are without basis. Your honor we motion to remove ACT1ON BASTARD for refusal to participate in-character
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
4764
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Posted - 2014.07.30 21:07:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Your Honor I'm afraid I pooped in Bojo's spare suit.
My Sentinel suit 's waste disposals been jacked up since habenero Monday.
Sorry bout that Bojo.
Your honor, I don't recall bringing a spare suit.....
Your honor prosecution motions for an investigation into who's suit he di-
Your honor don't wear your spare robes.....
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
4769
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Posted - 2014.07.30 21:14:00 -
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MythTanker wrote:
Your honor wouldn't that make the scouts the defendant?
No because who's getting nerfed in charlie....the defendant!
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
4774
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Posted - 2014.07.30 21:37:00 -
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MythTanker wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:MythTanker wrote:
Your honor wouldn't that make the scouts the defendant?
No because who's getting nerfed in charlie.... the defendant! I get that, oh wait... Your honor its a case of mistaken identity... The prosecution has brought the wrong person to court. They mean to sue the FOTM QQing heavies... The defendant who is the true heavy agrees with hotfix charlie 100%. Everyone else just wants to use the suit with little to no SP or skill invested... I propose that we come to terms on fixing the assault *points to the malnurished, brain dead member in the jury* He will solve our issues.
OOC : Purpose was to debunk shotgun scout v. HMG
Prosecution motions for assault buff
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