DUST Search - to the heavy nerf people. screw you

MINA Longstrike wrote:

Stop whining about scouts with stuff like 'but but but scouts!', while many of them are very powerful that has no bearing on many of the things that make your suit overpowered. You are making logical fallacies, confusing arguments and obscuring the actual point. This game isn't scouts vs heavies there's a lot more diversity than that, and honestly a scout is your natural predator due to their low profiles.

The reasons a heavy nerf are justified is because they currently don't have to make any actual choices while fitting practically any heavy can easily fit full proto on practically any suit (the only one that can't really is the cal heavy). In regards to the HMG, it does 720 dps against shields, without factoring in proficiency it does 950+ dps against armor and it fires longer than any other gun. If you think that's too low to 'defend yourself against scouts' you've got some serious issues with your thinking - while it may help you 'defend yourself' it also does so much damage per second that it can murder every other suit in the game non-stop with no real issue at ~ 40m.

You are not 'warning' people about scouts, you are using them as an excuse to plead for an unbalanced status-quo.


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OP FOTM Commando Perkone Caldari State 203	Posted - 2014.07.29 23:21:00 - [1] - Quote there are countless in-game people i talk to who are against the idea of a heavy nerf... because they're actually good players and can kill heavies easily... even my Minja friend thought it was stupid they just have a real life and don't come on forums come on CCP. don't listen to these cry babies and ruin the game even more... ridiculous. just nerf the range and if that doesn't shut them up, nothing will Dust servers will be a ghost town on 09/09/14 Destiny kicks ass... Like Halo knocked up Mass Effect and gave birth
OP FOTM Commando Perkone Caldari State 204	Posted - 2014.07.29 23:34:00 - [2] - Quote JRleo jr wrote: Nerf thier way too high dps and that's all that's needed. im just gonna say this one thing, and i'm done with this thread. i hate these flame war arguments We need that high DPS because of how quickly the scouts can kill us. because of how high their DPS is with shotties, remotes, and knives. those three things right there. if you nerf DPS, it can't affect the way we defend ourselves against scouts because it will make the heavy under powered we are talking about very fast, very powerful engagements here. a shotgun scout can get me with 3 hits to the back or 2 headshots if we're both in full proto. if you upset that balance you make scouts even more OP than they are right now. that's all i've been trying to warn people about. now I'm done. do whatever the hell you want because this game is dying anyway so **** it Dust servers will be a ghost town on 09/09/14 Destiny kicks ass... Like Halo knocked up Mass Effect and gave birth
OP FOTM Commando Perkone Caldari State 207	Posted - 2014.07.30 01:08:00 - [3] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Stop whining about scouts with stuff like 'but but but scouts!', while many of them are very powerful that has no bearing on many of the things that make your suit overpowered. You are making logical fallacies, confusing arguments and obscuring the actual point. This game isn't scouts vs heavies there's a lot more diversity than that, and honestly a scout is your natural predator due to their low profiles. The reasons a heavy nerf are justified is because they currently don't have to make any actual choices while fitting practically any heavy can easily fit full proto on practically any suit (the only one that can't really is the cal heavy). In regards to the HMG, it does 720 dps against shields, without factoring in proficiency it does 950+ dps against armor and it fires longer than any other gun. If you think that's too low to 'defend yourself against scouts' you've got some serious issues with your thinking - while it may help you 'defend yourself' it also does so much damage per second that it can murder every other suit in the game non-stop with no real issue at ~ 40m. You are not 'warning' people about scouts, you are using them as an excuse to plead for an unbalanced status-quo. Bullshit. I'm trying to keep you from nerfing them into the ground. Did you EVEN SEE WHAT THEY WERE ASKING FOR? TURNING SPEED NERF?! HELL THE NO. Now I am absolutely, utterly DONE with this discussion. Goodbye. Dust servers will be a ghost town on 09/09/14 Destiny kicks ass... Like Halo knocked up Mass Effect and gave birth