DUST Search - to the heavy nerf people. screw you

OP FOTM wrote:

MINA Longstrike wrote:

Stop whining about scouts with stuff like 'but but but scouts!', while many of them are very powerful that has no bearing on many of the things that make your suit overpowered. You are making logical fallacies, confusing arguments and obscuring the actual point. This game isn't scouts vs heavies there's a lot more diversity than that, and honestly a scout is your natural predator due to their low profiles.

The reasons a heavy nerf are justified is because they currently don't have to make any actual choices while fitting practically any heavy can easily fit full proto on practically any suit (the only one that can't really is the cal heavy). In regards to the HMG, it does 720 dps against shields, without factoring in proficiency it does 950+ dps against armor and it fires longer than any other gun. If you think that's too low to 'defend yourself against scouts' you've got some serious issues with your thinking - while it may help you 'defend yourself' it also does so much damage per second that it can murder every other suit in the game non-stop with no real issue at ~ 40m.

You are not 'warning' people about scouts, you are using them as an excuse to plead for an unbalanced status-quo.

Bullshit.

I'm trying to keep you from nerfing them into the ground. Did you EVEN SEE WHAT THEY WERE ASKING FOR?

TURNING SPEED NERF?! HELL THE **** NO.

Now I am absolutely, utterly DONE with this discussion. Goodbye.


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MINA Longstrike 1068	Posted - 2014.07.29 23:45:00 - [1] - Quote Stop whining about scouts with stuff like 'but but but scouts!', while many of them are very powerful that has no bearing on many of the things that make your suit overpowered. You are making logical fallacies, confusing arguments and obscuring the actual point. This game isn't scouts vs heavies there's a lot more diversity than that, and honestly a scout is your natural predator due to their low profiles. The reasons a heavy nerf are justified is because they currently don't have to make any actual choices while fitting practically any heavy can easily fit full proto on practically any suit (the only one that can't really is the cal heavy). In regards to the HMG, it does 720 dps against shields, without factoring in proficiency it does 950+ dps against armor and it fires longer than any other gun. If you think that's too low to 'defend yourself against scouts' you've got some serious issues with your thinking - while it may help you 'defend yourself' it also does so much damage per second that it can murder every other suit in the game non-stop with no real issue at ~ 40m. You are not 'warning' people about scouts, you are using them as an excuse to plead for an unbalanced status-quo. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike 1073	Posted - 2014.07.30 02:06:00 - [2] - Quote OP FOTM wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Stop whining about scouts with stuff like 'but but but scouts!', while many of them are very powerful that has no bearing on many of the things that make your suit overpowered. You are making logical fallacies, confusing arguments and obscuring the actual point. This game isn't scouts vs heavies there's a lot more diversity than that, and honestly a scout is your natural predator due to their low profiles. The reasons a heavy nerf are justified is because they currently don't have to make any actual choices while fitting practically any heavy can easily fit full proto on practically any suit (the only one that can't really is the cal heavy). In regards to the HMG, it does 720 dps against shields, without factoring in proficiency it does 950+ dps against armor and it fires longer than any other gun. If you think that's too low to 'defend yourself against scouts' you've got some serious issues with your thinking - while it may help you 'defend yourself' it also does so much damage per second that it can murder every other suit in the game non-stop with no real issue at ~ 40m. You are not 'warning' people about scouts, you are using them as an excuse to plead for an unbalanced status-quo. Bullshit. I'm trying to keep you from nerfing them into the ground. Did you EVEN SEE WHAT THEY WERE ASKING FOR? TURNING SPEED NERF?! HELL THE NO. Now I am absolutely, utterly DONE with this discussion. Goodbye. I'm not the one nerfing them, and I have heavy suits on three characters, even if you're a scout there are a great many situations when heavies are outright impossible to deal with. "Well blah blah blah, contrived situation to make heavies seem less powerful than they are", Yeah sure sometimes things are like that, and other times there's 4 heavies on a socket with a cal-scout providing passive scans as well as a cal-logi with nanohives and nothing can be done to remove them. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.