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Mathew LaBorde
The Generals
Anime Empire.
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Posted - 2014.07.28 09:47:00 -
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And for all the trolls. I suck at this game. There. I beat u to it. |
Immortal John Ripper
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Posted - 2014.07.28 09:51:00 -
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but you are awesome at this game.
Someday I am going to be King of the Pirates.
Skype: John_Ripper5150
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General John Ripper
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Posted - 2014.07.28 09:51:00 -
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but you are awesome at this game.
Someday I am going to be King of the Pirates.
Skype: John_Ripper5150
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Mathew LaBorde
The Generals
Anime Empire.
55
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Posted - 2014.07.28 10:08:00 -
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This ish is motherlovin bull. Its so fn stupid. How r u going g to say I didn't contribute as much as the next guy and give me half the isk he made. This is so fukin stupid. It should be based on kd. |
Death Shadow117
Capital Acquisitions LLC
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.28 10:08:00 -
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But yes the system sucks and is most rewarding to tanks especially anti tank tanks.
What?
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Mathew LaBorde
The Generals
Anime Empire.
55
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Posted - 2014.07.28 11:06:00 -
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Mathew LaBorde wrote:This ish is motherlovin bull. Its so fn stupid. How r u going g to say I didn't contribute as much as the next guy and give me half the isk he made. This is so fukin stupid. It should be based on kd.
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Bad Heal
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.07.28 11:13:00 -
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I enjoy the way its set up. I believe that it follows ccp's "risk verses reward" well.
I would add extra points for killing a player hacking/counter hacking though |
CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
975
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Posted - 2014.07.28 12:02:00 -
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Mathew LaBorde wrote:This ish is motherlovin bull. Its so fn stupid. How r u going g to say I didn't contribute as much as the next guy and give me half the isk he made. This is so fukin stupid. It should be based on kd. get good to get payed.
KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
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Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
5750
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Posted - 2014.07.28 12:45:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
16017
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Posted - 2014.07.28 13:11:00 -
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Mathew LaBorde wrote:And for all the trolls. I suck at this game. There. I beat u to it.
We're not paying you in real cash no matter how much you cry for it.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
\\= Advanced Minmatar Sentinel =// Unlocked
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RYN0CER0S
Rise Of Old Dudes
678
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Posted - 2014.07.28 13:20:00 -
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**** yo couch, Eddie Murphy.
Who farted?
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Malkai Inos
Any Given Day
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Posted - 2014.07.28 15:21:00 -
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Mathew LaBorde wrote:Mathew LaBorde wrote:This ish is motherlovin bull. Its so fn stupid. How r u going g to say I didn't contribute as much as the next guy and give me half the isk he made. This is so fukin stupid. It should be based on kd. Per match This would be great for me as a logi because I love not being paid for doing my job.
Mathew LaBorde for CPM2. This man is a visionary.
You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
General Tso's Alliance
2302
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Posted - 2014.07.28 15:26:00 -
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The ISK rewards and SP rewards are done carebear in this game.
Makes no sense as in this being a CCP game.
You should be directly rewarded for your individual contribution... Not have the ISK divided up between your entire team on what was destroyed. WTF is that? CCP trying to be "Fair" to people who didn't contribute as much?
The entire way they divide Match income was just done the easy and lazy way. There isn't anything else to it. |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
General Tso's Alliance
2302
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Posted - 2014.07.28 15:39:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:Mathew LaBorde wrote:Mathew LaBorde wrote:This ish is motherlovin bull. Its so fn stupid. How r u going g to say I didn't contribute as much as the next guy and give me half the isk he made. This is so fukin stupid. It should be based on kd. Per match This would be great for me as a logi because I love not being paid for doing my job. Mathew LaBorde for CPM2. This man is a visionary.
More kills made, Guardians for Logi's, assist kills... And have Warpoints a factor in ISK allocation aswell.
The person with 0/1 with 50 war points should not get given the same ISK as the Logi that is 0/1 with 3500 war points.
And players running MLT suits that are 0/11 Should not get rewarded the Same SP as someone who invested into an ADV suit and performed 11/11 in the match.
Rewarding the players who actually play the game and rewarding the players who make a contribution makes a MASSIVE difference in the actual momentary POINT of playing that match... It creates purpose.. Motivation and a drive to do better.
CCP trying to implement a matchmaking system 2 separate times and epicly failing both times has made this reward model impossible to fulfill. We can't stick 1-5m SP players into matches with 50m SP players and expect it to work out any better then it does now.
Instead CCP has created Public matches with little actual point for a player attempting to do better except not to loose some ISK investment. It makes your brain hurt... because the lack of forward thought that was directed at major obvious problems in this game. And all that lies on CCP Rouge, He's the leader and decided to push cloaks over fixing Broken features that where working fine before, that then CCP proceeded to brake.. Or installed broken features like Matchmaking that they never owned up to and fixed Their Frack up.
The sheer lack of accountability for the Matchmaking system and fixing it SHOWS YOU, just how mismanaged CCP Shanghai is. |
Malkai Inos
Any Given Day
1566
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Posted - 2014.07.28 16:33:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:More kills made, Guardians for Logi's, assist kills... And have Warpoints a factor in ISK allocation aswell. This would be more like it but it already differs from OP's proposition (to the extent that that can be taken seriously, mind you) and isn't even too far off from the current system. The only important difference would be the lack of a playtime modifier and giving the act of killing a meaning beyond its WP worth (why not buff general slayer WP somehow instead?).
There is still the problem that not every job is designed to kill or to contribute to kills all the time. A scout scan uncovering a large threat so that the squad can successfully avoid it is a job well done that isn't rewarded right now and won't be under a more kd/WP focused system either.
Bethhy wrote:The person with 0/1 with 50 war points should not get given the same ISK as the Logi that is 0/1 with 3500 war points. And he never will unless the Logi joins the game in the literal last minute. WP and time in match are the most important factors to relative ISK allocation from the common pool.
Bethhy wrote:And players running MLT suits that are 0/11 Should not get rewarded the Same SP as someone who invested into an ADV suit and performed 11/11 in the match. Which won't happen either unless the 0/11 dude earns the same WP as the 11/11 guy (which means he's probably a support player and did a decent job, safe for dying a bunch) or the latter joined the game more than two minutes+ late.
Also, I don't think suit tiers should play any role in SP or ISK gains beyond their better performance allowing capable players to score a higher board position, thus earning a bigger cut from the pool. Using ADV/PRO is your decision based on tactical and/or financial considerations, not something the game has to artificially reward you for.
Bethhy wrote:Rewarding the players who actually play the game and rewarding the players who make a contribution makes a MASSIVE difference in the actual momentary POINT of playing that match... It creates purpose.. Motivation and a drive to do better. I agree and, had we PVE in place, I would move to remove the playtime modifier from ISK allocation so that ISK gain would be 100% dependant on WP and a share of every killed suits' total worth to account for slayers having a harder time stacking high WP numbers (or simply adjust WP gains between the classes where they diverge).
As it stands though, a system like that would mean that bad and fresh players would earn next to nothing (or literally nothing) all the time. Just look at the bottom half of the leader board per team of your average pub match. Such a reward system would totally break their gameplay without a separate way to earn ISK/SP in place because they couldn't even reliably afford a proper STD fit.
You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
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Yeeeuuuupppp
uptown456
Dark Taboo
517
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Posted - 2014.07.28 16:41:00 -
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Lol, grammer.
Rage Proficiency V
Mic status: Muted
I AM Insane With Horrible Intervals Of Sanity
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Louis Domi
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
529
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Posted - 2014.07.28 16:48:00 -
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I'm just gonna say joining a game late(1-2 min) and getting first place in the game, whether you are first for being a slayer or a logi, the game will refuse to give you anything more than 150k isk. Unless I'm doing serious AV work, or some how get 45+ kills I will not go over the 350k mark. Hell sometimes even getting 45+ kills doesn't even get me past that.(Went 47 kills and like 10-15 deaths game gives me 310k) Logis I'm not too sure, I would sometimes logi in games getting 2-3k wp and still getting less than 300k, and sometimes I'll get the same amount of wp or similar and get over 400k. |
Derpty Derp
It's All Gone Derp
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Posted - 2014.07.28 16:52:00 -
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How about a large bonus for the winning team... Then at least you'll get less people farming isk with 0 risk, because the big money will require actually trying to take the point... At the moment there are a lot of ways to get more money than the team & at least half of them don't help the team in the slightest. |
Malkai Inos
Any Given Day
1566
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Posted - 2014.07.28 16:53:00 -
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Louis Domi wrote:I'm just gonna say joining a game late(1-2 min) and getting first place in the game, whether you are first for being a slayer or a logi, the game will refuse to give you anything more than 150k isk. Unless I'm doing serious AV work, or some how get 45+ kills I will not go over the 350k mark. Hell sometimes even getting 45+ kills doesn't even get me past that.(Went 47 kills and like 10-15 deaths game gives me 310k) Logis I'm not too sure, I would sometimes logi in games getting 2-3k wp and still getting less than 300k, and sometimes I'll get the same amount of wp or similar and get over 400k. ISK rewards are dependant on total ISK destruction on both teams, your time in played in match (relative to the total length), and your relative WP compared to others.
Joining late will kill your ISK gains (which is why scotty is a **** and should stop throwing us into half finished fights if at all possible). Having many PRO fits or expensive vehicles die on the field will significantly boost them.
You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
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Mathew LaBorde
The Generals
Anime Empire.
55
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Posted - 2014.07.28 20:39:00 -
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Here u go iron wolf saber. Maybe this year u will do ur job. Take all these statements and consider them. |
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m621 zma
Seraphim Initiative..
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Posted - 2014.07.28 20:49:00 -
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Bad Heal wrote:I enjoy the way its set up. I believe that it follows ccp's "risk verses reward" well.
I would add extra points for killing a player hacking/counter hacking though
Not really, you can earn more isk from relatively low risk activites
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