DUST Search - More scouts should use Nova Knives

Adipem Nothi wrote:

Mejt0 wrote:

Jathniel wrote:

mollerz wrote:

Mejt0 wrote:

NK are great to take down heavys, logi, hackers. And backpedaling isn't a problem when i can jump forward with my cladari faster than you sprint. Charged in midair and +50.

Yea.. but the problem with your little soliloquy is that any nonscrubabsoluten00b heavy will backpedal and strafe.. meanwhile you sadly committed your self to leaping in one direction in a completely predictable arc to a predictable landing spot.

+50 for the heavy

^This 100%

Started dabbling in heavy suits again recently whenever I feel like fkin with this pos game. Been killing scouts exactly like this first hand.

Go ahead and jump.
By the time you land, a decent heavy would make a foster home of out of your throat with all the HMG-nut he's going to leave in there.

You guys dont have right.

1. Heavy have lower than 1sec to react. And heavys strafe is a joke.
2. After first strike, knives are already charged when you turn around.
3. When you (as you said) backpedal,starfe etc. I will simply walk to you/around you.

Even if because of lag or bad hit detection 2ns strike wont count, you will be left with something like 500 hp. One shoot from SG does more.

One has been knifing for a couple of weeks.
The other has knifed since Beta.

Which one knows what he's talking about?

:-)

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Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 225	Posted - 2014.07.26 08:26:00 - [1] - Quote They are far better than i excepted (stared using week ago or some). Even with adv, 2 charged slashes and heavy is down (lone, that means they got reps). With kincats they are 2x better. Leave these shotguns, take a look at knives. They are worth it. PS. I dont know if its only me, but with kincats i always feel like im atleast 1,5x faster. In numbers only 1m/s more. In practise, you can easly outrun scouts without them. Another step closer to achive True Caldari. -~-~-Caldari Loyalist-~-~- Markiplier fan. Hollywood Undead ,rocks.
Cheydinhal Guard Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 146	Posted - 2014.07.26 08:42:00 - [2] - Quote I started using them about a week ago too. They aren't as hard to use as people make them out to be, IMO. AmarrAssault, GalAssault, GalLogi, CalScout GalLogi to the end
Rizlax Yazzax Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 380	Posted - 2014.07.26 11:31:00 - [3] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: PS. I dont know if its only me, but with kincats i always feel like im atleast 1,5x faster. In numbers only 1m/s more. In practise, you can easly outrun scouts without them. EDIT: Never mind I had a brain-fart, thought you meant you were faster with knives. Then I reread it
pegasis prime Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 1819	Posted - 2014.07.26 11:57:00 - [4] - Quote I use the zns quite often my best streak was 7 and my highest ever knife kill only game was 22/4 Proud Gunlogi pilot and forge gunner since August 2012. I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
OZAROW Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 1463	Posted - 2014.07.26 12:01:00 - [5] - Quote Wait till they buff them=ƒæè SUPER NOVA KNIFE SAIYAN 4
Immortal John Ripper 22662	Posted - 2014.07.26 12:06:00 - [6] - Quote mangos Only I can master the 4 races and bring balance to this galaxy - GJR The Last Clone bender I am the Alpha and the Omega
General John Ripper 22681	Posted - 2014.07.26 12:06:00 - [7] - Quote mangos Only I can master the 4 races and bring balance to this galaxy - GJR The Last Clone bender Skype: John_Ripper5150
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming 1230	Posted - 2014.07.26 13:22:00 - [8] - Quote I've killed so many knifers trying to get the drop on me. I think their success rate is something like 1/25 Its the ones who chase their target for half the map that I find the most comical. Do they not have a gun to end the humiliation? And yes extra speed helps but stealth is better. No point in trying to knife folks if a Cal scout can just show up and blap you instantly so I rarely have an opportunity to equip Kins. And yes knives do still need tweaking. Use them long enough and you'll discover that the one time you depend on them they will fail utterly and your reduced to a humiliating dance around eachover that rarely ends well for the guy taking cutlery to a gunfight. "The air smells damp and oppressive, like a wet nun" "Why am I talking to a lightbulb? Illuminate me"
Texs Red DUST University Ivy League 353	Posted - 2014.07.26 14:34:00 - [9] - Quote Nove knives are all messed up in terms of which race should use them. On the account of lore; they are Gallente. Based on how they work (plasma charged edge); they are Gallente. Based on racial combat style; they are Gallente. However due to who makes them; they are Caldari (who favor the longest range combat possible) Yet based on which race gets bonuses to them; they are Minmatar. Personally, from a logos stand point, they would be better served on Gallente scouts as knifing requires more stealth than speed. Now before Minmatar people start popping out bricks, the Gallente also dabble in speed just like you Minmatar dabble in armor so in theory ( I think) the Gallente scout would be better suited to the knives it should have had to begin with.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1688	Posted - 2014.07.26 15:50:00 - [10] - Quote And then you run into another scout with a shotgun.... Or anyone with any weapon whatsoever who can backpedal. "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand

Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 4297	Posted - 2014.07.26 18:30:00 - [11] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: And then you run into another scout with a shotgun.... Or anyone with any weapon whatsoever who can backpedal. Yep, because according to CCP running with a knife is dangerous. I mean, imagine if you tripped and fell on it!!! Tank buster // caldari scout
buzzzzzzz killllllllll Sacred Initiative of Combat Killers IMMORTAL REGIME 632	Posted - 2014.07.26 18:54:00 - [12] - Quote i still dont understand how scouts can run nks and say they are good, but nobody melee tanks? ive gone 25/2 with an adv min scout that was melee tanked, so they obviously dont suck
Zindorak 1.U.P 187	Posted - 2014.07.26 20:52:00 - [13] - Quote As much as i like NK's they have terrible hit detection Master of the Scrambler Pistol. Carthum Assault ScP <3
Jack 3enimble Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 67	Posted - 2014.07.26 21:23:00 - [14] - Quote Zindorak wrote: As much as i like NK's they have terrible hit detection This is true, I gave numerous people haircuts but no +50. Had some good laughs though, it's challenging.
Onesimus Tarsus Grundstein Automation 2363	Posted - 2014.07.27 00:07:00 - [15] - Quote Pretty sure I'm up to 20 in career deaths to NKs... in almost 1.5 years. Keep swinging, blade runners. K/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period. It even fixes WP/D(r). Beh!
mollerz 4365	Posted - 2014.07.27 00:56:00 - [16] - Quote I love the fact there's all these new knifers. Knife fights in this game are fun. It used to be rare to come upon another knifer on the opposing team. like once a week if I was lucky. now I am slicing down assaults and even logis running around with them. good times. ...[=\==> Dingle Dust Berry.
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 226	Posted - 2014.07.27 01:13:00 - [17] - Quote I eqiup NK with ACR so other scouts are never a problem. NK are great to take down heavys, logi, hackers. And backpedaling isnt a problem when i can jump forward with my cladari faster than you sprint. Charged in midair and +50. Ps. They are made by caldaris and they are caldari. Matar gets bonuse, because CCP favor us, and bringed our weapons first. -~-~-Caldari Loyalist-~-~- Markiplier fan. Hollywood Undead ,rocks.
mollerz 4365	Posted - 2014.07.27 05:24:00 - [18] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: NK are great to take down heavys, logi, hackers. And backpedaling isn't a problem when i can jump forward with my cladari faster than you sprint. Charged in midair and +50. Yea.. but the problem with your little soliloquy is that any nonscrubabsoluten00b heavy will backpedal and strafe.. meanwhile you sadly committed your self to leaping in one direction in a completely predictable arc to a predictable landing spot. +50 for the heavy Dingle Dust Berry.
Jathniel G I A N T General Tso's Alliance 1117	Posted - 2014.07.27 05:48:00 - [19] - Quote mollerz wrote: Mejt0 wrote: NK are great to take down heavys, logi, hackers. And backpedaling isn't a problem when i can jump forward with my cladari faster than you sprint. Charged in midair and +50. Yea.. but the problem with your little soliloquy is that any nonscrubabsoluten00b heavy will backpedal and strafe.. meanwhile you sadly committed your self to leaping in one direction in a completely predictable arc to a predictable landing spot. +50 for the heavy ^This 100% Started dabbling in heavy suits again recently whenever I feel like fkin with this pos game. Been killing scouts exactly like this first hand. Go ahead and jump. By the time you land, a decent heavy would make a foster home of out of your throat with all the HMG-nut he's going to leave in there. Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 226	Posted - 2014.07.27 11:49:00 - [20] - Quote Jathniel wrote: mollerz wrote: Mejt0 wrote: NK are great to take down heavys, logi, hackers. And backpedaling isn't a problem when i can jump forward with my cladari faster than you sprint. Charged in midair and +50. Yea.. but the problem with your little soliloquy is that any nonscrubabsoluten00b heavy will backpedal and strafe.. meanwhile you sadly committed your self to leaping in one direction in a completely predictable arc to a predictable landing spot. +50 for the heavy ^This 100% Started dabbling in heavy suits again recently whenever I feel like fkin with this pos game. Been killing scouts exactly like this first hand. Go ahead and jump. By the time you land, a decent heavy would make a foster home of out of your throat with all the HMG-nut he's going to leave in there. You guys dont have right. 1. Heavy have lower than 1sec to react. And heavys strafe is a joke. 2. After first strike, knives are already charged when you turn around. 3. When you (as you said) backpedal,starfe etc. I will simply walk to you/around you. Even if because of lag or bad hit detection 2ns strike wont count, you will be left with something like 500 hp. One shoot from SG does more. -~-~-Caldari Loyalist-~-~- Markiplier fan. Hollywood Undead ,rocks.

Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 3313	Posted - 2014.07.27 13:02:00 - [21] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Jathniel wrote: mollerz wrote: Mejt0 wrote: NK are great to take down heavys, logi, hackers. And backpedaling isn't a problem when i can jump forward with my cladari faster than you sprint. Charged in midair and +50. Yea.. but the problem with your little soliloquy is that any nonscrubabsoluten00b heavy will backpedal and strafe.. meanwhile you sadly committed your self to leaping in one direction in a completely predictable arc to a predictable landing spot. +50 for the heavy ^This 100% Started dabbling in heavy suits again recently whenever I feel like fkin with this pos game. Been killing scouts exactly like this first hand. Go ahead and jump. By the time you land, a decent heavy would make a foster home of out of your throat with all the HMG-nut he's going to leave in there. You guys dont have right. 1. Heavy have lower than 1sec to react. And heavys strafe is a joke. 2. After first strike, knives are already charged when you turn around. 3. When you (as you said) backpedal,starfe etc. I will simply walk to you/around you. Even if because of lag or bad hit detection 2ns strike wont count, you will be left with something like 500 hp. One shoot from SG does more. One has been knifing for a couple of weeks. The other has knifed since Beta. Which one knows what he's talking about? :-) Shoot scout with yes... - Ripley Riley
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 227	Posted - 2014.07.27 13:37:00 - [22] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Mejt0 wrote: Jathniel wrote: mollerz wrote: Mejt0 wrote: NK are great to take down heavys, logi, hackers. And backpedaling isn't a problem when i can jump forward with my cladari faster than you sprint. Charged in midair and +50. Yea.. but the problem with your little soliloquy is that any nonscrubabsoluten00b heavy will backpedal and strafe.. meanwhile you sadly committed your self to leaping in one direction in a completely predictable arc to a predictable landing spot. +50 for the heavy ^This 100% Started dabbling in heavy suits again recently whenever I feel like fkin with this pos game. Been killing scouts exactly like this first hand. Go ahead and jump. By the time you land, a decent heavy would make a foster home of out of your throat with all the HMG-nut he's going to leave in there. You guys dont have right. 1. Heavy have lower than 1sec to react. And heavys strafe is a joke. 2. After first strike, knives are already charged when you turn around. 3. When you (as you said) backpedal,starfe etc. I will simply walk to you/around you. Even if because of lag or bad hit detection 2ns strike wont count, you will be left with something like 500 hp. One shoot from SG does more. One has been knifing for a couple of weeks. The other has knifed since Beta. Which one knows what he's talking about? :-) The one whos doing it right. No matter if he does it 1 week or 1 year. -~-~-Caldari Loyalist-~-~- Markiplier fan. Hollywood Undead ,rocks.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 3313	Posted - 2014.07.27 13:43:00 - [23] - Quote I like your style. Shoot scout with yes... - Ripley Riley
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 227	Posted - 2014.07.27 14:03:00 - [24] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: I like your style! Nice to hear that :). -~-~-Caldari Loyalist-~-~- Markiplier fan. Hollywood Undead ,rocks.
mollerz 4368	Posted - 2014.07.27 14:41:00 - [25] - Quote It's okay. He'll soon discover what we mean. One word of advice when leaping, land at and facing their side when you strike. You have a much better chance of slashing down that last 500 EHP easy peasy. And it is harder to strafe/backpedal from you when you leap like that. You notice some people look over their shoulder by turning right, some left. Go for the side they leave undefended if you can. Dingle Dust Berry.
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 229	Posted - 2014.07.27 15:32:00 - [26] - Quote mollerz wrote: It's okay. He'll soon discover what we mean. One word of advice when leaping, land at and facing their side when you strike. You have a much better chance of slashing down that last 500 EHP easy peasy. And it is harder to strafe/backpedal from you when you leap like that. You notice some people look over their shoulder by turning right, some left. Go for the side they leave undefended if you can. Thanks. But again im not new and i do good with every weapon :]. That 500ehp will be left considering heavy will have 1000+ armor and 500-600shields. So mostly thats not a problem. -~-~-Caldari Loyalist-~-~- Markiplier fan. Hollywood Undead ,rocks.
mollerz 4370	Posted - 2014.07.27 15:55:00 - [27] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: 3. When you (as you said) backpedal,starfe etc. I will simply walk to you/around you. lololol... well, that is simply not possible. lololol. Maybe try fighting heavies that don't suck so bad they give you a false sense of superiority. Dingle Dust Berry.
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 229	Posted - 2014.07.27 17:45:00 - [28] - Quote mollerz wrote: Mejt0 wrote: 3. When you (as you said) backpedal,starfe etc. I will simply walk to you/around you. lololol... well, that is simply not possible. lololol. Maybe try fighting heavies that don't suck so bad they give you a false sense of superiority. Not possible? What your heavy walks faster than my scout? Youre funny. And as i said. Before ou turn around i will have 2nd charged slash released. I see that you werent attacked by thinking people before. -~-~-Caldari Loyalist-~-~- Markiplier fan. Hollywood Undead ,rocks.
mollerz 4370	Posted - 2014.07.27 17:58:00 - [29] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: mollerz wrote: Mejt0 wrote: 3. When you (as you said) backpedal,starfe etc. I will simply walk to you/around you. lololol... well, that is simply not possible. lololol. Maybe try fighting heavies that don't suck so bad they give you a false sense of superiority. Not possible? What your heavy walks faster than my scout? Youre funny. And as i said. Before ou turn around i will have 2nd charged slash released. I see that you werent attacked by thinking people before. Yea. I usually don't get attacked by thinking people. Guilty as charged Dingle Dust Berry.


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