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Immortal John Ripper
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Posted - 2014.07.25 14:44:00 -
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I compiled the code provided by CCP. Here is the output.
http://pastebin.com/RLJLQvbw
Check out how close the other candidates were to winning this election. I won't pretend to understand how this works completely but I am currently googling it and reading the pdf linked by ccp!
Only I can master the 4 races and bring balance to this galaxy - GJR The Last Clone bender
I am the Alpha and the Omega
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General John Ripper
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Posted - 2014.07.25 14:44:00 -
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I compiled the code provided by CCP. Here is the output.
http://pastebin.com/RLJLQvbw
Check out how close the other candidates were to winning this election. I won't pretend to understand how this works completely but I am currently googling it and reading the pdf linked by ccp!
Edit: CEOPyrex made a pie chart for the first round of initial votes.
https://twitter.com/CEOPyrex/status/492686674619797504
This is how the voting process is supposed to work.
http://www.dia.govt.nz/diawebsite.NSF/Files/meekm/$file/meekm.pdf
Only I can master the 4 races and bring balance to this galaxy - GJR The Last Clone bender
I am the Alpha and the Omega
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Dalmont Legrand
RUST 415
RUST415
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Posted - 2014.07.25 14:51:00 -
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Immortal John Ripper wrote:I compiled the code provided by CCP. Here is the output. http://pastebin.com/RLJLQvbwCheck out how close the other candidates were to winning this election. I won't pretend to understand how this works completely but I am currently googling it and reading the pdf linked by ccp!
Now that makes it more logic.
The best is yet to come
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CEOPyrex CloneA
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
835
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Posted - 2014.07.25 14:53:00 -
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Wish i wasnt stupid
Someone tell me what this means?
[('"Judge Rhadamanthus"', 269.0),
('"Kevall Longstride"', 86.0),
('"Zatara Rought"', 80.0),
('"Soraya Xel"', 66.0),
('"SirManBoy "', 66.0),
('"Appia Vibbia"', 46.0),
('"Cross Atu"', 44.0),
('"Pokey Dravon"', 41.0),
('"Iron Wolf Saber"', 41.0),
('"Tesfa Alem"', 30.0),
('"The Black Jackal"', 23.0),
('"Aeon Amadi"', 23.0),
('"Lt Royal"', 22.0),
('"Xp3ll3d Dust"', 22.0),
('"Zion Shad"', 21.0),
('"Argetlam Thorson"', 15.0),
('"Adelia Lafayette"', 13.0),
('"Mossellia Delt"', 10.0),
('"Syeven Reed"', 10.0),
('"Anarchide"', 8.0)] |
CEOPyrex CloneA
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
835
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Posted - 2014.07.25 14:55:00 -
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OK so Judge won by a land slide right? is that what it means?
Also how come Appia isnt in the final 7 and IWS is? (no comment on either candidate there, i am merely trying to understand the outputs)
Interesting stuff none the less (WOOO GO JUDGE!) |
Immortal John Ripper
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Posted - 2014.07.25 14:56:00 -
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CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:Wish i wasnt stupid
Someone tell me what this means?
[('"Judge Rhadamanthus"', 269.0),
('"Kevall Longstride"', 86.0),
('"Zatara Rought"', 80.0),
('"Soraya Xel"', 66.0),
('"SirManBoy "', 66.0),
('"Appia Vibbia"', 46.0),
('"Cross Atu"', 44.0),
('"Pokey Dravon"', 41.0),
('"Iron Wolf Saber"', 41.0),
('"Tesfa Alem"', 30.0),
('"The Black Jackal"', 23.0),
('"Aeon Amadi"', 23.0),
('"Lt Royal"', 22.0),
('"Xp3ll3d Dust"', 22.0),
('"Zion Shad"', 21.0),
('"Argetlam Thorson"', 15.0),
('"Adelia Lafayette"', 13.0),
('"Mossellia Delt"', 10.0),
('"Syeven Reed"', 10.0),
('"Anarchide"', 8.0)]
I am guessing those are the amount of initial votes everyone got. They needed 118 to be elected and excess votes got transferred over to other candidates. Every round someone was eliminated until there were only 7. This is just my best guess. I still have not finished reading up on how this whole process works.
Only I can master the 4 races and bring balance to this galaxy - GJR The Last Clone bender
I am the Alpha and the Omega
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General John Ripper
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Posted - 2014.07.25 14:56:00 -
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CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:Wish i wasnt stupid
Someone tell me what this means?
[('"Judge Rhadamanthus"', 269.0),
('"Kevall Longstride"', 86.0),
('"Zatara Rought"', 80.0),
('"Soraya Xel"', 66.0),
('"SirManBoy "', 66.0),
('"Appia Vibbia"', 46.0),
('"Cross Atu"', 44.0),
('"Pokey Dravon"', 41.0),
('"Iron Wolf Saber"', 41.0),
('"Tesfa Alem"', 30.0),
('"The Black Jackal"', 23.0),
('"Aeon Amadi"', 23.0),
('"Lt Royal"', 22.0),
('"Xp3ll3d Dust"', 22.0),
('"Zion Shad"', 21.0),
('"Argetlam Thorson"', 15.0),
('"Adelia Lafayette"', 13.0),
('"Mossellia Delt"', 10.0),
('"Syeven Reed"', 10.0),
('"Anarchide"', 8.0)]
I am guessing those are the amount of initial votes everyone got. They needed 118 to be elected and excess votes got transferred over to other candidates. Every round someone was eliminated until there were only 7. This is just my best guess. I still have not finished reading up on how this whole process works.
Only I can master the 4 races and bring balance to this galaxy - GJR The Last Clone bender
I am the Alpha and the Omega
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Immortal John Ripper
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Posted - 2014.07.25 14:57:00 -
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CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:OK so Judge won by a land slide right? is that what it means?
Also how come Appia isnt in the final 7 and IWS is? (no comment on either candidate there, i am merely trying to understand the outputs)
Interesting stuff none the less (WOOO GO JUDGE!)
Yea I am trying to understand this aswell. I would appreciate some community input if they understand this better than I. I just ran the code for you guys. I'm a programmer, not an election expert. lol.
Only I can master the 4 races and bring balance to this galaxy - GJR The Last Clone bender
I am the Alpha and the Omega
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General John Ripper
22629
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Posted - 2014.07.25 14:57:00 -
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CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:OK so Judge won by a land slide right? is that what it means?
Also how come Appia isnt in the final 7 and IWS is? (no comment on either candidate there, i am merely trying to understand the outputs)
Interesting stuff none the less (WOOO GO JUDGE!)
Yea I am trying to understand this aswell. I would appreciate some community input if they understand this better than I. I just ran the code for you guys. I'm a programmer, not an election expert. lol.
Only I can master the 4 races and bring balance to this galaxy - GJR The Last Clone bender
I am the Alpha and the Omega
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CEOPyrex CloneA
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2014.07.25 15:12:00 -
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I put that into a pie chart so its clear the spread of votes, thanks for the breakdown btw, v good stuff.
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RYN0CER0S
Rise Of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2014.07.25 15:17:00 -
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Aeon Amadi came in under IWS?
I ******* hate you people.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2014.07.25 15:20:00 -
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Judge won the largest share of the votes, which is kind of sad because I know he isn't particularly interested in PvE and that is a huge focus for me.
He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
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Immortal John Ripper
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Posted - 2014.07.25 15:21:00 -
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Things look much clearer in the pie chart. Visualization ftw.
Looks like somehow during the calculations that appia and pokey were skipped.. hmm.
Only I can master the 4 races and bring balance to this galaxy - GJR The Last Clone bender
I am the Alpha and the Omega
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CEOPyrex CloneA
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.07.25 15:21:00 -
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Actually whats surprising is how some of the mega corps / alliances didn't seem to vote at all for their primary 'no.1' candidate? was the spread the issue i wonder?
The critical part of STV is to vote for your no.1 dude with your no.1 vote as this is the first seat considered. all other votes are then aggregated across the voter spread in subsequent calculations.
Judge getting almost 300 votes in the first pass got him in the door first above all others who needed the following recalculation of votes to secure their seats.
I knew youtube was powerful but didn't expect it to be a run away success like this. GG judge and everyone. |
General John Ripper
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Posted - 2014.07.25 15:21:00 -
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Things look much clearer in the pie chart. Visualization ftw.
Looks like somehow during the calculations that appia and pokey were skipped.. hmm.
Only I can master the 4 races and bring balance to this galaxy - GJR The Last Clone bender
I am the Alpha and the Omega
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I-Shayz-I
I----------I
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Posted - 2014.07.25 15:22:00 -
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RYN0CER0S wrote:Aeon Amadi came in under IWS?
I ******* hate you people.
I was hoping for Aeon or Appia
IWS must have been everyone's "second choice"
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CEOPyrex CloneA
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
838
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Posted - 2014.07.25 15:22:00 -
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Immortal John Ripper wrote:Things look much clearer in the pie chart. Visualization ftw. Looks like somehow during the calculations that appia and pokey were skipped.. hmm.
its in the follow up recalcualtions, they did well in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd place votes but were not strong contenders for the 4th etc votes and this is looking as to why IWS got in as he was always going to be a stronger 2nd or so vote.
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CEOPyrex CloneA
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
838
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Posted - 2014.07.25 15:29:00 -
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In fact now i look at the data - i can perhaps see what was the Achilles heel of some of the candidates.
The 'self endorsement' saga may have actually been the worst thing they could have done. This created cross votes for sure but as there was no consensus as to the ranking of each endorsement it meant that those lower in the endorsed lists would fair worse when the recalculations were taken into account
This is likely why some of the stronger candidates higher up the ranking tree, lose out to stronger lower ranked candidates. E.g. if everyone had put someone as a v strong 3rd vote - it would have meant they got in as they would have had 118 or more rank 3 votes.
Its quite interesting to see how this has played out with all but one candidate having to rely heavily on multiple ranked votes to get in. Had this been a normal vote system, we would have an entirely different CPM (cept judge who won it as a landslide)
just my 2 cents.
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Immortal John Ripper
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Posted - 2014.07.25 15:38:00 -
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CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:In fact now i look at the data - i can perhaps see what was the Achilles heel of some of the candidates.
The 'self endorsement' saga may have actually been the worst thing they could have done. This created cross votes for sure but as there was no consensus as to the ranking of each endorsement it meant that those lower in the endorsed lists would fair worse when the recalculations were taken into account
This is likely why some of the stronger candidates higher up the ranking tree, lose out to stronger lower ranked candidates. E.g. if everyone had put someone as a v strong 3rd vote - it would have meant they got in as they would have had 118 or more rank 3 votes.
Its quite interesting to see how this has played out with all but one candidate having to rely heavily on multiple ranked votes to get in. Had this been a normal vote system, we would have an entirely different CPM (cept judge who won it as a landslide)
just my 2 cents.
I don't believe many people "copy and pasted" an endorsement list by a specific candidate or followed their ranking so closely. I mean I would like to believe that most people have minds of their own and would have their own lists in their mind. Using the endorsement list only for reference to learning how candidates felt about each others positions...
Well at least I did not do that. I voted for who I believed should be cpm, endorsed by my favorite candidate or not.
Only I can master the 4 races and bring balance to this galaxy - GJR The Last Clone bender
I am the Alpha and the Omega
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General John Ripper
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Posted - 2014.07.25 15:38:00 -
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CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:In fact now i look at the data - i can perhaps see what was the Achilles heel of some of the candidates.
The 'self endorsement' saga may have actually been the worst thing they could have done. This created cross votes for sure but as there was no consensus as to the ranking of each endorsement it meant that those lower in the endorsed lists would fair worse when the recalculations were taken into account
This is likely why some of the stronger candidates higher up the ranking tree, lose out to stronger lower ranked candidates. E.g. if everyone had put someone as a v strong 3rd vote - it would have meant they got in as they would have had 118 or more rank 3 votes.
Its quite interesting to see how this has played out with all but one candidate having to rely heavily on multiple ranked votes to get in. Had this been a normal vote system, we would have an entirely different CPM (cept judge who won it as a landslide)
just my 2 cents.
I don't believe many people "copy and pasted" an endorsement list by a specific candidate or followed their ranking so closely. I mean I would like to believe that most people have minds of their own and would have their own lists in their mind. Using the endorsement list only for reference to learning how candidates felt about each others positions...
Well at least I did not do that. I voted for who I believed should be cpm, endorsed by my favorite candidate or not.
Only I can master the 4 races and bring balance to this galaxy - GJR The Last Clone bender
I am the Alpha and the Omega
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Immortal John Ripper
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Posted - 2014.07.25 15:39:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:RYN0CER0S wrote:Aeon Amadi came in under IWS?
I ******* hate you people. I was hoping for Aeon or Appia IWS must have been everyone's "second choice"
I was hoping for Appia to make it. She came close though.
Only I can master the 4 races and bring balance to this galaxy - GJR The Last Clone bender
I am the Alpha and the Omega
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General John Ripper
22629
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Posted - 2014.07.25 15:39:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:RYN0CER0S wrote:Aeon Amadi came in under IWS?
I ******* hate you people. I was hoping for Aeon or Appia IWS must have been everyone's "second choice"
I was hoping for Appia to make it. She came close though.
Only I can master the 4 races and bring balance to this galaxy - GJR The Last Clone bender
I am the Alpha and the Omega
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CEOPyrex CloneA
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
840
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Posted - 2014.07.25 15:40:00 -
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Yeah i was quite impressed with Appia in her interview with Bamm, she came across as very together. Lets hope she runs next year. |
CEOPyrex CloneA
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.07.25 15:41:00 -
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Immortal John Ripper wrote:CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:snip
I don't believe many people "copy and pasted" an endorsement list by a specific candidate or followed their ranking so closely. I mean I would like to believe that most people have minds of their own and would have their own lists in their mind. Using the endorsement list only for reference to learning how candidates felt about each others positions... Well at least I did not do that. I voted for who I believed should be cpm, endorsed by my favorite candidate or not.
Actually id say quite a few did, i had people in my alliance asking for the exact ranking of votes to cast, i told them vote for who ever you want (Judge, Tesfa, Moss and Appia being by faves) but no 3 line whip.
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Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.25 15:44:00 -
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RYN0CER0S wrote:Aeon Amadi came in under IWS?
I ******* hate you people.
-Shrugs-
I was in the ballot 246 times; problem was that I was usually really far down the line. Considering that Judge Rhadamanthus had more than three times the votes of the next person (Kevall Longstride), anyone that came after him in the voter's list didn't matter.
Just the nature of the Single Transferrable Vote. The only thing that matters is who's in that first position.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.07.25 15:47:00 -
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Immortal John Ripper wrote:Things look much clearer in the pie chart. Visualization ftw. Looks like somehow during the calculations that appia and pokey were skipped.. hmm.
Basically means what while we had a good number of #1 votes, we didn't have enough votes on the other ballots as secondary choices, so when those candidates won, their votes rolled over to someone else instead of us and thus the people that got the rollovers ended up with more votes overall.
Oh well, maybe next year. This year was an uphill battle because I was far less known and was fighting to overcome that. Hopefully it'll be less of an issue next year. Special congrats to Cross, that dude knows his **** and can hopefully keep everyone from killing each other  |
General John Ripper
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Posted - 2014.07.25 15:55:00 -
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CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:Yeah i was quite impressed with Appia in her interview with Bamm, she came across as very together. Lets hope she runs next year.
<3 appia!
Well it is sleepy time for me. My IQ will jump up 30 points after a good rest. Then I will see if I can go over the code logic.
Only I can master the 4 races and bring balance to this galaxy - GJR The Last Clone bender
I am the Alpha and the Omega
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Immortal John Ripper
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Posted - 2014.07.25 15:55:00 -
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CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:Yeah i was quite impressed with Appia in her interview with Bamm, she came across as very together. Lets hope she runs next year.
<3 appia!
Well it is sleepy time for me. My IQ will jump up 30 points after a good rest. Then I will see if I can go over the code logic.
Only I can master the 4 races and bring balance to this galaxy - GJR The Last Clone bender
I am the Alpha and the Omega
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.07.25 16:12:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Immortal John Ripper wrote:Things look much clearer in the pie chart. Visualization ftw. Looks like somehow during the calculations that appia and pokey were skipped.. hmm. Basically means what while we had a good number of #1 votes, we didn't have enough votes on the other ballots as secondary choices, so when those candidates won, their votes rolled over to someone else instead of us and thus the people that got the rollovers ended up with more votes overall. Oh well, maybe next year. This year was an uphill battle because I was far less known and was fighting to overcome that. Hopefully it'll be less of an issue next year. Special congrats to Cross, that dude knows his **** and can hopefully keep everyone from killing each other
Looking forward to voting for you next year Pokey. Thanks for the support and commendation.
Now I have to go buy a clone pack to cover any respawns I may need during council meetings trying to keep the killing to a minimum 
Cheers,
Cross
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
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Posted - 2014.07.25 16:17:00 -
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That is a low amount of votes, i should have ran for real if i knew so few would vote.
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