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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.07.29 02:39:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:
I can tell if a weapon is protoype just by looking at it. I cannot tell the difference between ADV and STD.
Considering how the 3rd Person Model for the weapons all have the same color, I'm willing to bet that this is a lie.
Nah bro its like I can tell what tier of Small Turrets a player is using just by sniffing them....
"We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.07.30 01:52:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:[
Protofits is merely a vessel for my point, if you don't believe the numbers feel free to post your own with workimgs and prove otherwise.
You should expect pretty much every python to fall to your Incubus, your railgun will have a much higher DPS than his missile turret. The incubus is purposefully designed to be better at Anti-Vehicle.
From my own experience as pilot, dropships are pretty much balanced, the only necessary changes are the operation of swarms and prehaps plasma cannons. You have to remember a few certain things as a pilot.
1) You are not a Gunship - Your role is not to rain death from above
2) You have passenger seats - They are there for a reason.
Provided you don't fly straight into AV infested areas your dropship already has plenty of survivability.
As my fitting shows you can get a python to nearly 7,000 shields for 24 seconds, which will take nearly 10 volleys to get through. Then you still have a shield boster to rep most of it back.
Pythons shouldn't regularly be fitting over 3,000 shields but as we are about to see in charlie this all too possible. Now even if I agreed with the proposed dropship buff, I, would, still, argue the Incubus needs more than just 100 extra armour, 300 at the least. The python risks over shadowing the Incubus entirely simply because of the innate abilities of shields. The python fit shown has the highest EHP achievable while still maintaing a decent rep rate. Meanwhile the python can achieve this.
Shields: 2986 (3586 - In charlie)
Armour: 950
This will out perform the Incubus in tank by 300ehp and will still have passively built in regen, and still be more manouverable, and still have a greater resistance profile.
600 is far too much, especially when they are only giving armour +100 AND
1) They are reducing the price
2) They are nerfing Proto Swarms
3) They are nerfing Swarms + Minmando
It's too much too quickly, it's not goning to balance an already balanced vehicle it's going to overpower them.
Oh wow..... ADSers campaigned this hard to build Skytanks.....
Quite frankly I found ADS to be fairly balanced. They'd wreck my vehicles with impunity, and annihilate infantry with the same build.
But now with increased EHP....... good lord. The ADSpocalypse has begun. Hail Judge the first of the 4 Droppshippers of the End Times!
"We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.07.30 02:59:00 -
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JRleo jr wrote:True Adamance wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:[
Protofits is merely a vessel for my point, if you don't believe the numbers feel free to post your own with workimgs and prove otherwise.
You should expect pretty much every python to fall to your Incubus, your railgun will have a much higher DPS than his missile turret. The incubus is purposefully designed to be better at Anti-Vehicle.
From my own experience as pilot, dropships are pretty much balanced, the only necessary changes are the operation of swarms and prehaps plasma cannons. You have to remember a few certain things as a pilot.
1) You are not a Gunship - Your role is not to rain death from above
2) You have passenger seats - They are there for a reason.
Provided you don't fly straight into AV infested areas your dropship already has plenty of survivability.
As my fitting shows you can get a python to nearly 7,000 shields for 24 seconds, which will take nearly 10 volleys to get through. Then you still have a shield boster to rep most of it back.
Pythons shouldn't regularly be fitting over 3,000 shields but as we are about to see in charlie this all too possible. Now even if I agreed with the proposed dropship buff, I, would, still, argue the Incubus needs more than just 100 extra armour, 300 at the least. The python risks over shadowing the Incubus entirely simply because of the innate abilities of shields. The python fit shown has the highest EHP achievable while still maintaing a decent rep rate. Meanwhile the python can achieve this.
Shields: 2986 (3586 - In charlie)
Armour: 950
This will out perform the Incubus in tank by 300ehp and will still have passively built in regen, and still be more manouverable, and still have a greater resistance profile.
600 is far too much, especially when they are only giving armour +100 AND
1) They are reducing the price
2) They are nerfing Proto Swarms by a tiny amount
3) They are buffing std and adv Swarms + nerfing Minmando with swarms
It's too much too quickly, it's not goning to balance an already balanced vehicle it's going to overpower them.
Oh wow..... ADSers campaigned this hard to build Skytanks..... Quite frankly I found ADS to be fairly balanced. They'd wreck my vehicles with impunity, and annihilate infantry with the same build. But now with increased EHP....... good lord. The ADSpocalypse has begun. Hail Judge the first of the 4 Droppshippers of the End Times! My python has 2555 shields and forges completely destroy them. Swarms do good damage to pythons even at adv. Python has needed some sort of hp buff for a long time. Incubus needs more pg to fit a non pathetic rep with non pathetic hp, before we could have 100 reps now it's...tiny. And it is impossible for pythons to destroy good incubus pilots.
It's impossible for me to destroy either as well.
"We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.07.30 03:40:00 -
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JRleo jr wrote:True Adamance wrote:JRleo jr wrote:True Adamance wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:[
Protofits is merely a vessel for my point, if you don't believe the numbers feel free to post your own with workimgs and prove otherwise.
You should expect pretty much every python to fall to your Incubus, your railgun will have a much higher DPS than his missile turret. The incubus is purposefully designed to be better at Anti-Vehicle.
From my own experience as pilot, dropships are pretty much balanced, the only necessary changes are the operation of swarms and prehaps plasma cannons. You have to remember a few certain things as a pilot.
1) You are not a Gunship - Your role is not to rain death from above
2) You have passenger seats - They are there for a reason.
Provided you don't fly straight into AV infested areas your dropship already has plenty of survivability.
As my fitting shows you can get a python to nearly 7,000 shields for 24 seconds, which will take nearly 10 volleys to get through. Then you still have a shield boster to rep most of it back.
Pythons shouldn't regularly be fitting over 3,000 shields but as we are about to see in charlie this all too possible. Now even if I agreed with the proposed dropship buff, I, would, still, argue the Incubus needs more than just 100 extra armour, 300 at the least. The python risks over shadowing the Incubus entirely simply because of the innate abilities of shields. The python fit shown has the highest EHP achievable while still maintaing a decent rep rate. Meanwhile the python can achieve this.
Shields: 2986 (3586 - In charlie)
Armour: 950
This will out perform the Incubus in tank by 300ehp and will still have passively built in regen, and still be more manouverable, and still have a greater resistance profile.
600 is far too much, especially when they are only giving armour +100 AND
1) They are reducing the price
2) They are nerfing Proto Swarms by a tiny amount
3) They are buffing std and adv Swarms + nerfing Minmando with swarms
It's too much too quickly, it's not goning to balance an already balanced vehicle it's going to overpower them.
Oh wow..... ADSers campaigned this hard to build Skytanks..... Quite frankly I found ADS to be fairly balanced. They'd wreck my vehicles with impunity, and annihilate infantry with the same build. But now with increased EHP....... good lord. The ADSpocalypse has begun. Hail Judge the first of the 4 Droppshippers of the End Times! My python has 2555 shields and forges completely destroy them. Swarms do good damage to pythons even at adv. Python has needed some sort of hp buff for a long time. Incubus needs more pg to fit a non pathetic rep with non pathetic hp, before we could have 100 reps now it's...tiny. And it is impossible for pythons to destroy good incubus pilots. It's impossible for me to destroy either as well. Get good???
If I had an Amarrian HAV.....
"We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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