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Cyrus Grevare
WarRavens Final Resolution.
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Posted - 2014.07.28 17:00:00 -
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Though it 'might' not be fair for a proto swarmer to solo an ADS, from my experience, when facing a skilled pilot I DO get the first surprise attack and even manage to empty my entire clip, this along the lines as to what Judge explained on his video defending Afterburners, by that point the ADS pilot is on evasive maneuvers getting as fast from my area as possible, not against it, they should be able to survive such encounters, but is my mission accomplished? making the pilot flee for 10 seconds? maybe.
The problem for me is what happens next,
Of course I can't just stand there scanning the skies with swarm launcher primed. Infantry rush to where the swarm missiles came from forcing an engagement. And to make matters worse, it only takes the time for me to stop looking up and turn around trying to hide from infantry for the ADS to recover and get back to my area - this time hunting specifically for me, only this time, I won't be able to land a surprise attack, any hives I have will be destroyed, my ammo will run low and with two or three indirect hits I will be dead.
The ADS pilot can engage everything, the swarm user cannot, the Forge user 'can' engage everything, but I don't know if that's enough of a hard counter, is the automatic response to ADS a Forge Gun or another ADS?
Swarms are great for hunting starter pilots though 3-4 sets of missiles = dead dropship
This is just my experience, I've never piloted a dropship (successfully) but have faced them from the ground for a long time.
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Cyrus Grevare
WarRavens Final Resolution.
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Posted - 2014.07.29 07:43:00 -
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Tesfa Alem wrote: Dont pay attention to protofits,if anything it shows a false view of air to air combat especialyy as it currently stands. if i encounter any Python with less than 3K shiels i will definitely engage in my Incubus and will most likley kill it if it doesn't run away especially with just an ADV turret. With the 600 more shields It wont be OP it will have a fighting chance.
Can I bother you on a more detailed opinion on how to accomplish a 'true view' for air combat, so far I just try to be true to the stats shown in game, but maybe there's another way
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Cyrus Grevare
WarRavens Final Resolution.
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Posted - 2014.07.30 07:31:00 -
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Tesfa Alem wrote:Cyrus Grevare wrote:Tesfa Alem wrote: Dont pay attention to protofits,if anything it shows a false view of air to air combat especialyy as it currently stands.
Can I bother you on a more detailed opinion on how to accomplish a 'true view' for air combat, so far I just try to be true to the stats shown in game, but maybe there's another way You make it sound like I'm trying to show things with an agenda. Best thing to do would be to strap yourself in an incubus with a rail turret and go hunting. With adv rails and incubus level three i can take out Vipers in one pass, myrons without having to reload and if i get the drop on a python i can usually take it down to armor before he starts to panic and run. It has zero to do with the kind of turret the python pilot is running, i fly a ship speciffically to kill other (specifficaly shield tanked) ships. Yes the python can dance but the incubs can as well, i have had little issue keeping up with pythons as these maps are incredibly small for flying in the first place. The harsh truth of it is all ADS will fit an afterburner on becuase our first course of action when engaged by AV or other vehicles is to get out of harms way. Pythons have to sacrifice alot of HP where the incubs does not. So giving them the equivalent of a shield extender is adding balance, not making them OP.
I don't think that would reveal any other stat or calculation for me to try and implement on protofits, battle tactics, player behavior or item balance are not things I claim to have in site, just raw stats and calculations shown in Dust514 (on rare occasions my best guess) I'll just withdraw from this personal debate now
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