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Peregrinuus 2	Posted - 2014.07.24 15:18:00 - [1] - Quote For Scotty to stop putting me on the god damn teams that keep getting stomped and/or lose?! I got a damn .22 win/loss ratio and the game still puts me on the god damn losing teams. It's like this damn game is coded to put stompers together and everyone else against them to suffer. Hi.
Atiim Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 10889	Posted - 2014.07.24 15:21:00 - [2] - Quote WP/D Matchmaking fixes this. And nothing of value was lost that day... -HAND
Immortal John Ripper 22513	Posted - 2014.07.24 15:23:00 - [3] - Quote step 1. Join a corp. Step 2. make friends step 3. communicate and watch your game play improve 10x. step 4. ??? step 5. profit seriously. Team work is Overpowered. You should try it sometime. Only I can master the 4 races and bring balance to this galaxy - GJR The Last Clone bender I am the Alpha and the Omega
General John Ripper 22535	Posted - 2014.07.24 15:23:00 - [4] - Quote step 1. Join a corp. Step 2. make friends step 3. communicate and watch your game play improve 10x. step 4. ??? step 5. profit seriously. Team work is Overpowered. You should try it sometime. Only I can master the 4 races and bring balance to this galaxy - GJR The Last Clone bender I am the Alpha and the Omega
Immortal John Ripper 22513	Posted - 2014.07.24 15:25:00 - [5] - Quote Atiim wrote: WP/D Matchmaking fixes this. not quite. WP/D introduces an imbalance between classes and playstyles. Only I can master the 4 races and bring balance to this galaxy - GJR The Last Clone bender I am the Alpha and the Omega
General John Ripper 22535	Posted - 2014.07.24 15:25:00 - [6] - Quote Atiim wrote: WP/D Matchmaking fixes this. not quite. WP/D introduces an imbalance between classes and playstyles. Only I can master the 4 races and bring balance to this galaxy - GJR The Last Clone bender I am the Alpha and the Omega
RYN0CER0S Rise Of Old Dudes 605	Posted - 2014.07.24 15:28:00 - [7] - Quote Get in a squad. You don't have to communicate with them or play to whatever commands the SL is barking, but itwill help you not be on "that" team and you'll never deploy into a lost match, either. PSN: The_Rynoceros Console Master Race "It's better to burn out, than fade away." ~Def Leppard
Immortal John Ripper 22515	Posted - 2014.07.24 15:30:00 - [8] - Quote RYN0CER0S wrote: Get in a squad. You don't have to communicate with them or play to whatever commands the SL is barking, but itwill help you not be on "that" team and you'll never deploy into a lost match, either. communication helps alot. I cannot expect every player to play like me and be a solo god. Being in a squad helps and he would not see so many lost games, but team work is still over powered. It would be his best bet to bringing that W/L ratio way up. Only I can master the 4 races and bring balance to this galaxy - GJR The Last Clone bender I am the Alpha and the Omega
General John Ripper 22535	Posted - 2014.07.24 15:30:00 - [9] - Quote RYN0CER0S wrote: Get in a squad. You don't have to communicate with them or play to whatever commands the SL is barking, but itwill help you not be on "that" team and you'll never deploy into a lost match, either. communication helps alot. I cannot expect every player to play like me and be a solo god. Being in a squad helps and he would not see so many lost games, but team work is still over powered. It would be his best bet to bringing that W/L ratio way up. Only I can master the 4 races and bring balance to this galaxy - GJR The Last Clone bender I am the Alpha and the Omega
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 2241	Posted - 2014.07.24 15:37:00 - [10] - Quote RYN0CER0S wrote: Get in a squad. You don't have to communicate with them or play to whatever commands the SL is barking, but itwill help you not be on "that" team and you'll never deploy into a lost match, either. Can confirm, getting into a squad of 3+ people keeps me out of matches that are half over. Can also confirm that you don't have to actually participate in squad-play for a squad to benefit you. Case in point: your WP's contribute to OB's if you listen to the SL or not. HOWEVER... Immortal John Ripper wrote: Communication helps a lot. I cannot expect every player to play like me and be a solo god. Being in a squad helps and he would not see so many lost games, but team work is still over powered. It would be his best bet to bringing that W/L ratio way up. Teamwork is broken, nerf teamwork. Get into a squad with six people and just halfway work together. Find a SL that knows how to use squad commands to wreck up WP's. Die less, kill more, **** bitches, get ISK. He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...

Peregrinuus 2	Posted - 2014.07.24 15:39:00 - [11] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: step 1. Join a corp. Step 2. make friends step 3. communicate and watch your game play improve 10x. step 4. ??? step 5. profit seriously. Team work is Overpowered. You should try it sometime. I am in a corp and I got friends, thank you very much. I shouldn't have to rely on being with other good players so that I end up on the winning and/or stomping side. I should be able to play solo and have the same experience in terms of stomping and getting stomped. Right now it's like I get stomped 3 out of 4 games and my team does the stomping 1 in 5 games. That's nowhere near balanced. Hi.
Thumb Green The Valyrian Guard 1148	Posted - 2014.07.24 15:58:00 - [12] - Quote Yeah, run as a squad and you get put on the side that does the stomping more often. You'll still get put on the sh!tty team where your squad are the only people trying to win instead of jacking off in some corner but at least you have a better chance of not getting that team. I still think they should pull the plug on Scotty so we can start getting more balanced matches like we used to but I must admit it makes me feel like I just might not be as bad as I claim to be when I'm sitting at #1 as the only guy with double digit kills & less than 5 deaths without being a sniper the whole match and having around 2k wps instead of barely breaking 500 wps like everyone else on the team. Can't say I'm all that surprised. I've been drinking and may be drunk.... probably like most dust players.
Immortal John Ripper 22519	Posted - 2014.07.24 15:58:00 - [13] - Quote Peregrinuus wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: step 1. Join a corp. Step 2. make friends step 3. communicate and watch your game play improve 10x. step 4. ??? step 5. profit seriously. Team work is Overpowered. You should try it sometime. I am in a corp and I got friends, thank you very much. I shouldn't have to rely on being with other good players so that I end up on the winning and/or stomping side. I should be able to play solo and have the same experience in terms of stomping and getting stomped. Right now it's like I get stomped 3 out of 4 games and my team does the stomping 1 in 5 games. That's nowhere near balanced. Sorry but wether you like it or not, Dust is primarily a team base game. I cannot teach you how to solo games, it is a skill people learn on their own. Those people stomping you are in a squad, I can assure you of that. Very few people can solo carry their team. That comes with alot of practice, experience, and a bit of luck. Dust is far from being a balanced game so you have to make due with what you have. Instead of complaining, adapt to the game and how it works. Then you will see your win loss ratio improve. Adapt or Die. Only I can master the 4 races and bring balance to this galaxy - GJR The Last Clone bender I am the Alpha and the Omega
General John Ripper 22535	Posted - 2014.07.24 15:58:00 - [14] - Quote Peregrinuus wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: step 1. Join a corp. Step 2. make friends step 3. communicate and watch your game play improve 10x. step 4. ??? step 5. profit seriously. Team work is Overpowered. You should try it sometime. I am in a corp and I got friends, thank you very much. I shouldn't have to rely on being with other good players so that I end up on the winning and/or stomping side. I should be able to play solo and have the same experience in terms of stomping and getting stomped. Right now it's like I get stomped 3 out of 4 games and my team does the stomping 1 in 5 games. That's nowhere near balanced. Sorry but wether you like it or not, Dust is primarily a team base game. I cannot teach you how to solo games, it is a skill people learn on their own. Those people stomping you are in a squad, I can assure you of that. Very few people can solo carry their team. That comes with alot of practice, experience, and a bit of luck. Dust is far from being a balanced game so you have to make due with what you have. Instead of complaining, adapt to the game and how it works. Then you will see your win loss ratio improve. Adapt or Die. Only I can master the 4 races and bring balance to this galaxy - GJR The Last Clone bender I am the Alpha and the Omega
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 2242	Posted - 2014.07.24 16:06:00 - [15] - Quote Peregrinuus wrote: I shouldn't have to rely on being with other good players so that I end up on the winning and/or stomping side. I should be able to play solo- Gonna have to stop you right there. No, you shouldn't. Dust requires squads; it doesn't matter if you are with corpmates, people you met in a channel, or squad finder. This game stopped being a solo game the minute you left the academy. He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
RayRay James Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 297	Posted - 2014.07.24 16:55:00 - [16] - Quote Peregrinuus wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: step 1. Join a corp. Step 2. make friends step 3. communicate and watch your game play improve 10x. step 4. ??? step 5. profit seriously. Team work is Overpowered. You should try it sometime. I am in a corp and I got friends, thank you very much. I shouldn't have to rely on being with other good players so that I end up on the winning and/or stomping side. I should be able to play solo and have the same experience in terms of stomping and getting stomped. Right now it's like I get stomped 3 out of 4 games and my team does the stomping 1 in 5 games. That's nowhere near balanced. You're mixing your fractions, son
calvin b Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1790	Posted - 2014.07.24 17:24:00 - [17] - Quote I agree I am tired of being stuck on the losing side, but if I am not on their side who is going to show them how it is done. Second to me it is the computer telling you your so damn good that it takes a team to take you out, be proud, hold your head high, and say " I may not win but everyone will remember my name" Closed Beta Vet and Retired Heavy. Assaults 07
Thang Bausch Pierrot Le Fou Industries 200	Posted - 2014.07.24 17:30:00 - [18] - Quote Get in a squad is a good solution, but sometimes, I log on and only have time to play 1-2 matches. Sometime the wait for a squad brings that down to 0-1 matches. I also have a job that requires a lot of talking and have two daughters who love to talk, so sometimes, i don't want to be on a mic, I just want to play 30-60 minutes without hearing or saying anything. if ambush was squadless, the stomps would not be so bad.
Peregrinuus 2	Posted - 2014.07.24 17:48:00 - [19] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Peregrinuus wrote: I shouldn't have to rely on being with other good players so that I end up on the winning and/or stomping side. I should be able to play solo- Gonna have to stop you right there. No, you shouldn't. Dust requires squads; it doesn't matter if you are with corpmates, people you met in a channel, or squad finder. This game stopped being a solo game the minute you left the academy. First of all, I've played on this character for about a year now so I'm not "fresh out of the academy." Second, are you even hearing yourself? You're basically saying that it's perfectly OK and intended for proto and non-proto squads to stomp players way below their skill level. I'm not a game developper but l think I can tell that that's a poor game design. Matchmaking needs to be balanced so that a squad goes up against similarly skilled opponents and also puts randoms against similarly skilled randoms. I finished my playing today by going 18-0 (and 2000 WP) with my Python in my last battle (since I wanted to end on a good note). I felt guilty killing all those militia suits in one to two hits, but the guilt quickly passed because I've also been similarly stomped countless of times. Matchmaking needs much improvement. Hi.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 2245	Posted - 2014.07.24 17:55:00 - [20] - Quote Peregrinuus wrote: Second, are you even hearing yourself? You're basically saying that it's perfectly OK and intended for proto and non-proto squads to stomp players way below their skill level. I'm not a game developper but l think I can tell that that's a poor game design. Not it isn't. Welcome to New Eden. Peregrinuus wrote: Matchmaking needs to be balanced so that a squad goes up against similarly skilled opponents and also puts randoms against similarly skilled randoms Matchmaking needs to... Stop players from being placed into matches that are nearly over This could actually be easily fixed with some clever coding... if Dust 514's player population was healthier. Ensure squads are placed against other squads Meaning public contracts will not place two 6-man squads against a team with one 6-man squad and a bunch of solos. He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...

Bethhy Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 2285	Posted - 2014.07.24 17:56:00 - [21] - Quote Peregrinuus wrote: For Scotty to stop putting me on the god damn teams that keep getting stomped and/or lose?! I got a damn .22 win/loss ratio and the game still puts me on the god damn losing teams. It's like this damn game is coded to put stompers together and everyone else against them to suffer. Just leave the match. you don't have anything to prove. When solo'ing you have the luxury to leave on a whim and que up and be in another match in a minute. With a squad you have to grunt it out or all agree to leave. start to learn names of the competition and write their names down on your list of revenge, Get your skills up, get your map knowledge down... learn some of your own tricks.. Then come back stronger. Trying to run endlessly at a brick wall and then expecting it will just fall eventually will only leave your with a headache and still walking away. Beware the fury of a patient man.
Onesimus Tarsus Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 2355	Posted - 2014.07.24 19:10:00 - [22] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: Atiim wrote: WP/D Matchmaking fixes this. not quite. WP/D introduces an imbalance between classes and playstyles. KD/R matchmaking fixes that too. K/D(r) WP/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period. Beh!
Onesimus Tarsus Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 2355	Posted - 2014.07.24 19:11:00 - [23] - Quote Atiim wrote: WP/D Matchmaking fixes this. You know, people around don't like to be grouped against players of similar skills, brah. K/D(r) WP/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period. Beh!
Onesimus Tarsus Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 2355	Posted - 2014.07.24 19:15:00 - [24] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: Atiim wrote: WP/D Matchmaking fixes this. not quite. WP/D introduces an imbalance between classes and playstyles. As opposed to the blissful balance that occurs now, right? K/D(r) WP/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period. Beh!
Onesimus Tarsus Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 2356	Posted - 2014.07.24 19:17:00 - [25] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: step 1. Join a corp. Step 2. make friends step 3. communicate and watch your game play improve 10x. step 4. ??? step 5. profit seriously. Team work is Overpowered. You should try it sometime. AKA: go from stompee to stomper. If everyone is on corps, no one would ever get stomped, right? K/D(r) WP/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period. Beh!
Thang Bausch Pierrot Le Fou Industries 200	Posted - 2014.07.24 22:17:00 - [26] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Peregrinuus wrote: Second, are you even hearing yourself? You're basically saying that it's perfectly OK and intended for proto and non-proto squads to stomp players way below their skill level. I'm not a game developper but l think I can tell that that's a poor game design. Not it isn't. Welcome to New Eden. Peregrinuus wrote: Matchmaking needs to be balanced so that a squad goes up against similarly skilled opponents and also puts randoms against similarly skilled randoms Matchmaking needs to... Stop players from being placed into matches that are nearly over This could actually be easily fixed with some clever coding... if Dust 514's player population was healthier. Ensure squads are placed against other squads Meaning public contracts will not place two 6-man squads against a team with one 6-man squad and a bunch of solos. that last one shouldn't be that hard. Seems they are populating the teams as people are added to the queue, rather than queue them until there 32 people and then populate the teams making sure to distribute the squads
Michael Arck 4961	Posted - 2014.07.24 22:21:00 - [27] - Quote Remember when Arnold told you to get to the chopper? Well this time around he wants you in a squad. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
Thang Bausch Pierrot Le Fou Industries 200	Posted - 2014.07.24 22:22:00 - [28] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Peregrinuus wrote: Second, are you even hearing yourself? You're basically saying that it's perfectly OK and intended for proto and non-proto squads to stomp players way below their skill level. I'm not a game developper but l think I can tell that that's a poor game design. Not it isn't. Welcome to New Eden. More like welcome to one of the main reasons why this game flopped. I tried bringing other people into the game. They did well in academy, got relentlessly slaughtered by squads of skilled vets in proto gear for the first 4-5 matches out of academy and then refused to play the game. No one likes to play a game where they can only be other people's entertainment. I'd take a softer Eden to have more players.
Immortal John Ripper 22542	Posted - 2014.07.24 22:25:00 - [29] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: step 1. Join a corp. Step 2. make friends step 3. communicate and watch your game play improve 10x. step 4. ??? step 5. profit seriously. Team work is Overpowered. You should try it sometime. AKA: go from stompee to stomper. If everyone is on corps, no one would ever get stomped, right? If everyone was in corps and used teamwork, I feel like gameplay would be much better. I don't have fun games fighting a bunch of randoms who don't know how to work together and are greedy wp farmers or red line snipers. Only I can master the 4 races and bring balance to this galaxy - GJR The Last Clone bender I am the Alpha and the Omega
General John Ripper 22544	Posted - 2014.07.24 22:25:00 - [30] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: step 1. Join a corp. Step 2. make friends step 3. communicate and watch your game play improve 10x. step 4. ??? step 5. profit seriously. Team work is Overpowered. You should try it sometime. AKA: go from stompee to stomper. If everyone is on corps, no one would ever get stomped, right? If everyone was in corps and used teamwork, I feel like gameplay would be much better. I don't have fun games fighting a bunch of randoms who don't know how to work together and are greedy wp farmers or red line snipers. Only I can master the 4 races and bring balance to this galaxy - GJR The Last Clone bender I am the Alpha and the Omega



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