DUST Search - I really don't think CRs and RRs and balanced enough to buff DMG...

Michael Arck wrote:

JRleo jr wrote:

Michael Arck wrote:

They are not OP, they never were. I'm glad they are buffing the damage mods.

They kinda were before, at complex level.

Complex? I can see that a bit to a certain degree. But hey, RRs were just like a Viziam SCR. Both weapons dropped you fast. We dealt with the VSCR for so long without much as a whimper. I couldn't react fast to VSCR in my Cal suit, so when the tables turn and I get a RR that kicks ass, oh its OP.

Cody Sietz wrote:

Michael Arck wrote:

They are not OP. Never were. I'm glad they are buffing the damage mods.

They were and are.

Interesting. That doesn't make sense. If they were, then you're acknowledging that they are no longer OP but say they are OP in a matter of four words.

The RR isn't OP. The damage has been reduced. Some people just like to have their weapons pro to lvl 5 with damage mods. But the truth of the matter is, they are not OP. Your playstyle facing a RR is UP. You have plenty of time to get away from RR, especially now after the nerf. The RR of old could take you out in about the same time a Viziam could melt a Caldari running across the field.

To even consider neutering RR even more is just entirely selfish and would serve the weapon no purpose as to what it is built for and how to be used on the battlefield.

If you're saying the RR is OP, then no offense, but you just suck at playing Dust. That's just the truth.

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Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3675	Posted - 2014.07.24 02:55:00 - [1] - Quote The CR and the RR...they are on the line of being really OP...and this dmg mod buff...is just gonna push them over that line. I can't be the only one to think this. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
sabre prime Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 300	Posted - 2014.07.24 03:53:00 - [2] - Quote What is the proposed damage modifiers buff? Desperate attempt to get BPOs
Fizzer94 Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3011	Posted - 2014.07.24 03:57:00 - [3] - Quote sabre prime wrote: What is the proposed damage modifiers buff? 25%/50%/75% My best match on Dust, 23/6/4 Placon. Please unnerf ScPs and fix IoPs...
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 102	Posted - 2014.07.24 04:01:00 - [4] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: The CR and the RR...they're on the line of being really OP...and this dmg mod buff, it's just gonna push them over that line. I can't be the only one to think this. Only the cr is op. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song evar.
Michael Arck 4946	Posted - 2014.07.24 04:03:00 - [5] - Quote They are not OP. Never were. I'm glad they are buffing the damage mods. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 102	Posted - 2014.07.24 04:05:00 - [6] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: They are not OP, they never were. I'm glad they are buffing the damage mods. They kinda were before, at complex level. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song evar.
Defy Gravity 461	Posted - 2014.07.24 04:13:00 - [7] - Quote I agree, CR is easy mode ( No hipfire recoil or barely ) & RR makes it possible to sit in one spot and go 20+/0 If anything the CR need to be nerfed by 2 or 3 dmg and the RR needs to be nerfed by 5 to 8 dmg Pokey Dravon for CPM1 :D
Forever ETC Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 706	Posted - 2014.07.24 04:22:00 - [8] - Quote Damage isn't the problem it is the easy of use. "Your forefathers fought alongside the Empire, it is your choice to follow them or not." Captain Dante to "Forever".
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3677	Posted - 2014.07.24 04:27:00 - [9] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: They are not OP. Never were. I'm glad they are buffing the damage mods. They were and are. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 7836	Posted - 2014.07.24 04:30:00 - [10] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: sabre prime wrote: What is the proposed damage modifiers buff? 25%/50%/75% WHAT??!??!? King Thunderbolt is my number one fan. :D TFR

Cheydinhal Guard Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 137	Posted - 2014.07.24 04:31:00 - [11] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Michael Arck wrote: They are not OP. Never were. I'm glad they are buffing the damage mods. They were and are. What makes you say that? AmarrAssault, GalAssault, GalLogi, CalScout GalLogi to the end
Michael Arck 4947	Posted - 2014.07.24 05:23:00 - [12] - Quote JRleo jr wrote: Michael Arck wrote: They are not OP, they never were. I'm glad they are buffing the damage mods. They kinda were before, at complex level. Complex? I can see that a bit to a certain degree. But hey, RRs were just like a Viziam SCR. Both weapons dropped you fast. We dealt with the VSCR for so long without much as a whimper. I couldn't react fast to VSCR in my Cal suit, so when the tables turn and I get a RR that kicks ass, oh its OP. Cody Sietz wrote: Michael Arck wrote: They are not OP. Never were. I'm glad they are buffing the damage mods. They were and are. Interesting. That doesn't make sense. If they were, then you're acknowledging that they are no longer OP but say they are OP in a matter of four words. The RR isn't OP. The damage has been reduced. Some people just like to have their weapons pro to lvl 5 with damage mods. But the truth of the matter is, they are not OP. Your playstyle facing a RR is UP. You have plenty of time to get away from RR, especially now after the nerf. The RR of old could take you out in about the same time a Viziam could melt a Caldari running across the field. To even consider neutering RR even more is just entirely selfish and would serve the weapon no purpose as to what it is built for and how to be used on the battlefield. If you're saying the RR is OP, then no offense, but you just suck at playing Dust. That's just the truth. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
Yeeeuuuupppp uptown456 Dark Taboo 498	Posted - 2014.07.24 05:41:00 - [13] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: sabre prime wrote: What is the proposed damage modifiers buff? 25%/50%/75% WHAT??!??!? Those are fuckin big numbers.. inb4 ishy assault forge with 3 complex damage mods destroys all veHicles Rage Proficiency V Mic status: Muted Storage Wars Champion.
Silver Strike44 Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 112	Posted - 2014.07.24 07:10:00 - [14] - Quote Yeeeuuuupppp wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: sabre prime wrote: What is the proposed damage modifiers buff? 25%/50%/75% WHAT??!??!? Those are fuckin big numbers.. inb4 ishy assault forge with 3 complex damage mods destroys all veHicles There's no way those are the actual numbers. Perhaps 2.5, 5, 7.5? Me: Donate to The Rammeh McRam House Charity. Scrub: What's the cause? Rammeh: I'm retarded.
TOOMANY NAMES ALREADYTAKEn Going for the gold 18	Posted - 2014.07.24 08:03:00 - [15] - Quote CR's are OP, RR's are OP, AR's are in a good spot IMO, SCR's are a bit OP, but the Assault SCR's are very underpowered. Shotgunner for life.
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 935	Posted - 2014.07.24 08:13:00 - [16] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: The CR and the RR...they are on the line of being really OP...and this dmg mod buff...is just gonna push them over that line. I can't be the only one to think this. i think its more a way to buff assaults and logis compared to scouts because a scout needs all the slots for ewar and HP mods but a assault can sacrifice a slot or two for damage mods and still have good HP. KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
Justice Prevails 291	Posted - 2014.07.24 11:11:00 - [17] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: JRleo jr wrote: Michael Arck wrote: They are not OP, they never were. I'm glad they are buffing the damage mods. They kinda were before, at complex level. Complex? I can see that a bit to a certain degree. But hey, RRs were just like a Viziam SCR. Both weapons dropped you fast. We dealt with the VSCR for so long without much as a whimper. I couldn't react fast to VSCR in my Cal suit, so when the tables turn and I get a RR that kicks ass, oh its OP. Cody Sietz wrote: Michael Arck wrote: They are not OP. Never were. I'm glad they are buffing the damage mods. They were and are. Interesting. That doesn't make sense. If they were, then you're acknowledging that they are no longer OP but say they are OP in a matter of four words. The RR isn't OP. The damage has been reduced. Some people just like to have their weapons pro to lvl 5 with damage mods. But the truth of the matter is, they are not OP. Your playstyle facing a RR is UP. You have plenty of time to get away from RR, especially now after the nerf. The RR of old could take you out in about the same time a Viziam could melt a Caldari running across the field. To even consider neutering RR even more is just entirely selfish and would serve the weapon no purpose as to what it is built for and how to be used on the battlefield. If you're saying the RR is OP, then no offense, but you just suck at playing Dust. That's just the truth. +1. Most of my RR kills are heavies, who think they are invincible, running across an open field without a logi, and try to engage me at my weapon's optimal range. Your in my world now, find cover or get back to your hallway. Embracing my inner scrub since 2013.
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 214	Posted - 2014.07.24 11:49:00 - [18] - Quote Sorry but i must call you a moron. CR and RR are guns to destroy armor. They are like plasma rifle (ar) for shields. CR and RR take hard times with shields. And if youre armor tanking, except to die fast. -~-~-Caldari Loyalist-~-~- Markiplier fan. Hollywood Undead ,rocks.
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 718	Posted - 2014.07.24 12:00:00 - [19] - Quote Silver Strike44 wrote: Yeeeuuuupppp wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: sabre prime wrote: What is the proposed damage modifiers buff? 25%/50%/75% WHAT??!??!? Those are fuckin big numbers.. inb4 ishy assault forge with 3 complex damage mods destroys all veHicles There's no way those are the actual numbers. Perhaps 2.5, 5, 7.5? **** off - I want 5 75% complex dmg mods on my suit nao!
boba's fetta Shining Flame Amarr Empire 762	Posted - 2014.07.24 15:08:00 - [20] - Quote the actaul numbers are more like 3-8 with excat numbers not being decided yet.

Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3677	Posted - 2014.07.24 15:29:00 - [21] - Quote Cheydinhal Guard wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Michael Arck wrote: They are not OP. Never were. I'm glad they are buffing the damage mods. They were and are. What makes you say that? It is the only weapon that can stand toe to toe with a HMG. The RR is in a good place right now, but adding more dmg to it is going to give crazy DPS with crazy range. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3677	Posted - 2014.07.24 16:07:00 - [22] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Sorry but i must call you a moron. CR and RR are guns to destroy armor. They are like plasma rifle (ar) for shields. CR and RR take hard times with shields. And if youre armor tanking, except to die fast. If you think having a high DPS and the longest range is balanced, then I'm pretty sure you are the moron here. The CR does not have a hard time with shields. It literally only loses 5 percent vs them. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 2284	Posted - 2014.07.24 16:59:00 - [23] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Mejt0 wrote: Sorry but i must call you a moron. CR and RR are guns to destroy armor. They are like plasma rifle (ar) for shields. CR and RR take hard times with shields. And if youre armor tanking, except to die fast. If you think having a high DPS and the longest range is balanced, then I'm pretty sure you are the moron here. The CR does not have a hard time with shields. It literally only loses 5 percent vs them. And only has 5% bonus to armor. not 10% like RR. Or a SCR VS shield... Which is nasty. The guns have parity.. Assault rifle variants could get buffed some... the breach and tactical need very very slight love. But otherwise guns are good. What you have a problem with and are COMPLETELY blind too because you're just focused on "Me me me me". Stop, Take a step back and look. You only have issue with guns that have bonuses to armor damage, so is the issue the guns? Or the lack of parity with shield and armor tanks? If everyone was running Caldari Logistics, Assaults etc..... people would be running SCR's and AR's.. Like they where before.. pssst I bet you run armor suits?
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3677	Posted - 2014.07.24 17:42:00 - [24] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Mejt0 wrote: Sorry but i must call you a moron. CR and RR are guns to destroy armor. They are like plasma rifle (ar) for shields. CR and RR take hard times with shields. And if youre armor tanking, except to die fast. If you think having a high DPS and the longest range is balanced, then I'm pretty sure you are the moron here. The CR does not have a hard time with shields. It literally only loses 5 percent vs them. And only has 5% bonus to armor. not 10% like RR. Or a SCR VS shield... Which is nasty. The guns have parity.. Assault rifle variants could get buffed some... the breach and tactical need very very slight love. But otherwise guns are good. What you have a problem with and are COMPLETELY blind too because you're just focused on "Me me me me". Stop, Take a step back and look. You only have issue with guns that have bonuses to armor damage, so is the issue the guns? Or the lack of parity with shield and armor tanks? If everyone was running Caldari Logistics, Assaults etc..... people would be running SCR's and AR's.. Like they where before.. pssst I bet you run armor suits? yes, and my suits have the most to gain because I use dmg mods in my high slots. Would the ScR become broken as well? Possibly. The AR? Maybe, but those 2 weapons are balanced with low range(the AR) and a overheat mechanic(the ScR) not to mention that you will never have to shot through more then 500-700 shields and that only comes on sentinels and suits that run all extenders(leaving themselves no room for dmg mods) Every PC scout has a six kin or bonusless CR on their suits. It eats through everything. But no, let's get back to low TTK and pretend we didn't have a big balance to try and combat that awhile ago. Dmg mods have the potential to break most weapons and suits(remember slayer Logis?) I'd rather they get a lower fitting cost instead of higher dmg. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance 1084	Posted - 2014.07.24 17:52:00 - [25] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: They are not OP. Never were. I'm glad they are buffing the damage mods. The hell they aren't. The rail rifle for one, being able to kill at one of the longest ranges, shouldn't drop you as quick as it does. It, along with the combat rifle, is one of the MOST used weapons that I see or am killed by. On the other hand, the combat rifle seems like insta death within range. I'm talking a standard combat rifle here. If anything these 2 items need to take a hit damage to compensate for damage mods. You know there is a problem when the dominate weapons on the field are the rail and combat rifles. Tanks - Balancing Turrets
Cheydinhal Guard Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 137	Posted - 2014.07.24 18:51:00 - [26] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Cheydinhal Guard wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Michael Arck wrote: They are not OP. Never were. I'm glad they are buffing the damage mods. They were and are. What makes you say that? It is the only weapon that can stand toe to toe with a HMG. The RR is in a good place right now, but adding more dmg to it is going to give crazy DPS with crazy range. I seriously doubt that. The HMG has tons more DPS than the CR. If an HMG heavy gets killed by a CR in CQC he must be a really crappy heavy. AmarrAssault, GalAssault, GalLogi, CalScout GalLogi to the end
Silver Strike44 Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 114	Posted - 2014.07.24 19:31:00 - [27] - Quote Cheydinhal Guard wrote: I seriously doubt that. The HMG has tons more DPS than the CR. If an HMG heavy gets killed by a CR in CQC he must be a really crappy heavy. HMGs do 2000+ lbs. more dps than the combat rifle? Wow. Me: Donate to The Rammeh McRam House Charity. Scrub: What's the cause? Rammeh: I'm retarded.


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