DUST Search - Dropship Side Missiles

Sgt Buttscratch wrote:

Shouper of BHD wrote:

I don`t think it makes sense that its expected of noobberrys or players who chance a gun on a dropship to be ready and more so to have heavy gear, it shouldn`t be a requirement, dedicated gunners as in thoose who build a load-out should be at an advantage because that have what they need and more for a specific action thats as logical as roles in game, it shouldn`t require any but an anolog and a trigger to shoot, you should only die by getting shot out or shot down. It simply makes no sense not even if you clarify it for players like a tops in a loading screen. on the other hand inless its a quick fix I think other issues should be atteanded to since the bigger issues will cuase more harm to the game and this one would/should wait a while longer (its been here a long time) if such instances mentioned above are correct.

Oh my...

The heavy is MLT, no skills require and minimal ISK required. The reason is not just the turret raping the gunner, but for more protection when engaged in prolonged combat(some scr users are good at dropping weak gunners).
Saying a gunner should require nothing other than "an anolog and a trigger" is stupid. simple as.

Compared to other issues Dust514 has this is a non issue, should be one of the last in line for fixes.

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Taurion Bruni D3ATH CARD 232	Posted - 2014.07.23 03:12:00 - [1] - Quote Often the side gunners in my dropship will shoot themselves out of the seat with the missile turret. To keep them alive, I have to keep still Python Pilot // Minmatar Assault
Bojo The Mighty Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno 4415	Posted - 2014.07.23 03:46:00 - [2] - Quote 15 - Love Railguns Just as long as the dice keep rollin, the hoes keep hoein, and the money keeps flowin!
ACT1ON BASTARD Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 31	Posted - 2014.07.23 04:25:00 - [3] - Quote Taurion Bruni wrote: Often the side gunners in my dropship will shoot themselves out of the seat with the missile turret. To keep them alive, I have to keep still Ccp please fix this
Venerable Phage Red Shirts Away Team 174	Posted - 2014.07.23 06:55:00 - [4] - Quote Sounds like they are suffering from premature ejection ;) Not One Lifetime
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 610	Posted - 2014.07.23 07:51:00 - [5] - Quote ACT1ON BASTARD wrote: Taurion Bruni wrote: Often the side gunners in my dropship will shoot themselves out of the seat with the missile turret. To keep them alive, I have to keep still Ccp please fix this Fix what?Teach your gunners how to lead shots and that wont happen, working as intended a missile exploding INSIDE the gunner bay should kill the gunner. Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
Sgt Buttscratch Edimmu Warfighters 2169	Posted - 2014.07.23 12:48:00 - [6] - Quote this is a non issue, consider it an IQ test. Give me my scrambler pistol back....**
Scheneighnay McBob Cult of Gasai 5713	Posted - 2014.07.23 14:07:00 - [7] - Quote I always laugh at it when it happens, because it's only the useless dumbass gunners who do that. pé¦pâ+pé¦pâ½pâäpâ¬pâ¦pé¦pâ¼pâ+pâêpü»sñ¬S+ïpéè
Taurion Bruni D3ATH CARD 234	Posted - 2014.07.23 15:57:00 - [8] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: ACT1ON BASTARD wrote: Taurion Bruni wrote: Often the side gunners in my dropship will shoot themselves out of the seat with the missile turret. To keep them alive, I have to keep still Ccp please fix this Fix what?Teach your gunners how to lead shots and that wont happen, working as intended a missile exploding INSIDE the gunner bay should kill the gunner. So the gunners are not allowed to shoot straight? seems to defeat the purpose of the Python then leading shots is not the issue, when the gunners shoot in the direction of travel, they get creamed by their own guns Python Pilot // Minmatar Assault
Sgt Buttscratch Edimmu Warfighters 2171	Posted - 2014.07.23 16:30:00 - [9] - Quote Taurion Bruni wrote: Reign Omega wrote: ACT1ON BASTARD wrote: Taurion Bruni wrote: Often the side gunners in my dropship will shoot themselves out of the seat with the missile turret. To keep them alive, I have to keep still Ccp please fix this Fix what?Teach your gunners how to lead shots and that wont happen, working as intended a missile exploding INSIDE the gunner bay should kill the gunner. So the gunners are not allowed to shoot straight? seems to defeat the purpose of the Python then leading shots is not the issue, when the gunners shoot in the direction of travel, they get creamed by their own guns I think your trying to make this seem worse than it is..... Dedicated gunners should be wearing MLT heavy frame for added protection Dedicated gunners should understand when to shoot, when to spam and when to not do either. The other day I snagged a kill on a swarmer while the dropship was in afterburner evasive mode. get good, quit dying Give me my scrambler pistol back....**
TOOMANY NAMES ALREADYTAKEn Going for the gold 11	Posted - 2014.07.23 16:34:00 - [10] - Quote Damn those internet lags lol Shotgunner for life.

Taurion Bruni D3ATH CARD 234	Posted - 2014.07.23 17:19:00 - [11] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: Taurion Bruni wrote: Reign Omega wrote: ACT1ON BASTARD wrote: Taurion Bruni wrote: Often the side gunners in my dropship will shoot themselves out of the seat with the missile turret. To keep them alive, I have to keep still Ccp please fix this Fix what?Teach your gunners how to lead shots and that wont happen, working as intended a missile exploding INSIDE the gunner bay should kill the gunner. So the gunners are not allowed to shoot straight? seems to defeat the purpose of the Python then leading shots is not the issue, when the gunners shoot in the direction of travel, they get creamed by their own guns I think your trying to make this seem worse than it is..... Dedicated gunners should be wearing MLT heavy frame for added protection Dedicated gunners should understand when to shoot, when to spam and when to not do either. The other day I snagged a kill on a swarmer while the dropship was in afterburner evasive mode. get good, quit dying I will not "Get Good" or "Quit Dying" because I know that the missile should not hit the shooter. It does not hit the side of the dropship (I know this because this happens in factional and the Ship will not take damage) but the missile actually hits the turret operator!? I have used my Python enough to know how to avoid it, but keeping still to allow the side gunner to shoot the Forge Gunner is not an acceptable option. Python Pilot // Minmatar Assault
Shouper of BHD Better Hide R Die 304	Posted - 2014.07.23 18:17:00 - [12] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: Taurion Bruni wrote: Reign Omega wrote: ACT1ON BASTARD wrote: Taurion Bruni wrote: Often the side gunners in my dropship will shoot themselves out of the seat with the missile turret. To keep them alive, I have to keep still Ccp please fix this Fix what?Teach your gunners how to lead shots and that wont happen, working as intended a missile exploding INSIDE the gunner bay should kill the gunner. So the gunners are not allowed to shoot straight? seems to defeat the purpose of the Python then leading shots is not the issue, when the gunners shoot in the direction of travel, they get creamed by their own guns I think your trying to make this seem worse than it is..... Dedicated gunners should be wearing MLT heavy frame for added protection Dedicated gunners should understand when to shoot, when to spam and when to not do either. The other day I snagged a kill on a swarmer while the dropship was in afterburner evasive mode. get good, quit dying I don`t think it makes sense that its expected of noobberrys or players who chance a gun on a dropship to be ready and more so to have heavy gear, it shouldn`t be a requirement, dedicated gunners as in thoose who build a load-out should be at an advantage because that have what they need and more for a specific action thats as logical as roles in game, it shouldn`t require any but an anolog and a trigger to shoot, you should only die by getting shot out or shot down. It simply makes no sense not even if you clarify it for players like a tops in a loading screen. on the other hand inless its a quick fix I think other issues should be atteanded to since the bigger issues will cuase more harm to the game and this one would/should wait a while longer (its been here a long time) if such instances mentioned above are correct.
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 242	Posted - 2014.07.23 20:20:00 - [13] - Quote Ive had it happen a lot in LAVs it's just the fact that the missle travels slower then the vehicle that fires it which doesn't make a lot of sense. For space age missles ours act like rockets from the 18th century in terms of velocity.
Shouper of BHD Better Hide R Die 304	Posted - 2014.07.23 20:23:00 - [14] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Ive had it happen a lot in LAVs it's just the fact that the missle travels slower then the vehicle that fires it which doesn't make a lot of sense. For space age missles ours act like rockets from the 18th century in terms of velocity. maybe for missile turrets (not ADS main`s though) they should have the missile spawn farther ahead of the turret`s mouth, might give it enough time.
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 242	Posted - 2014.07.23 20:26:00 - [15] - Quote Shouper of BHD wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Ive had it happen a lot in LAVs it's just the fact that the missle travels slower then the vehicle that fires it which doesn't make a lot of sense. For space age missles ours act like rockets from the 18th century in terms of velocity. maybe for missile turrets (not ADS main`s though) they should have the missile spawn farther ahead of the turret`s mouth, might give it enough time. The ADS turrets sticks out at the tip where it's likely to fly under the ADS if anything. But I agree still, that if the missles won't be sped up to be more realistic that they will spawn further from the barrel. Look at any videos of modern missle testing those things cross thousands of feet in the blink of an eye. We should barely be able to see the missle before it collides which at current speeds they fly like a black powder rocket from mythbusters or something.
Hakyou Brutor Fatal Absolution 942	Posted - 2014.07.23 20:27:00 - [16] - Quote don't run a scout suit when gunning...
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 615	Posted - 2014.07.23 22:30:00 - [17] - Quote Taurion Bruni wrote: Reign Omega wrote: ACT1ON BASTARD wrote: Taurion Bruni wrote: Often the side gunners in my dropship will shoot themselves out of the seat with the missile turret. To keep them alive, I have to keep still Ccp please fix this Fix what?Teach your gunners how to lead shots and that wont happen, working as intended a missile exploding INSIDE the gunner bay should kill the gunner. So the gunners are not allowed to shoot straight? seems to defeat the purpose of the Python then leading shots is not the issue, when the gunners shoot in the direction of travel, they get creamed by their own guns Not when shooting straight causes the missile to hit the frame of the dropship or inside the door, it's really just a matter of understanding when to shoot, die a few times and learn the hard way or just don't use the guns? Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
Taurion Bruni D3ATH CARD 242	Posted - 2014.07.23 22:57:00 - [18] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: Taurion Bruni wrote: Reign Omega wrote: ACT1ON BASTARD wrote: Taurion Bruni wrote: Often the side gunners in my dropship will shoot themselves out of the seat with the missile turret. To keep them alive, I have to keep still Ccp please fix this Fix what?Teach your gunners how to lead shots and that wont happen, working as intended a missile exploding INSIDE the gunner bay should kill the gunner. So the gunners are not allowed to shoot straight? seems to defeat the purpose of the Python then leading shots is not the issue, when the gunners shoot in the direction of travel, they get creamed by their own guns Not when shooting straight causes the missile to hit the frame of the dropship or inside the door, it's really just a matter of understanding when to shoot, die a few times and learn the hard way or just don't use the guns? Trust me, I have had experience in the dropship missiles, and I have had experiences with the missiles such that although the problem does happen commonly when the vehicle is moving forward, if the ship is coasting to the side, the gunner on the side that you are coasting to can kill themselves as they shoot perpendicular to the ship. its not the case of hitting the frame of the ship, but the missile spawning behind the gunner is the issue, Python Pilot // Minmatar Assault
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 5465	Posted - 2014.07.23 23:02:00 - [19] - Quote AHAH i've done this! on an LAV! a Heavy friend of mine told me to help him take an objective back ,so i hopped on his LAV (with my 300HP , 190k Proto scouts) and while close to the objective i saw ANOTHER LAV with very little HP parked so i shot it, but my friend was driving full throttle towards the enemy LAV and somehow we catch up with the Rocket....and well... as per Sgt.ButtS. Lets just say i failed the IQ test... Stealth Storm
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 7831	Posted - 2014.07.23 23:07:00 - [20] - Quote Taurion Bruni wrote: Often the side gunners in my dropship will shoot themselves out of the seat with the missile turret. To keep them alive, I have to keep still Keeping still shouldn't be a problem for a good pilot. King Thunderbolt is my number one fan. :D TFR

Taurion Bruni D3ATH CARD 243	Posted - 2014.07.23 23:45:00 - [21] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Taurion Bruni wrote: Often the side gunners in my dropship will shoot themselves out of the seat with the missile turret. To keep them alive, I have to keep still Keeping still shouldn't be a problem for a good pilot. Keeping still is not a problem, but I should not HAVE to. the python should never be still, always on the move from target to target, always adjusting position to keep out of range from the relentless AV. If you do stay still, you die. Python Pilot // Minmatar Assault
Sgt Buttscratch Edimmu Warfighters 2173	Posted - 2014.07.24 04:15:00 - [22] - Quote Shouper of BHD wrote: I don`t think it makes sense that its expected of noobberrys or players who chance a gun on a dropship to be ready and more so to have heavy gear, it shouldn`t be a requirement, dedicated gunners as in thoose who build a load-out should be at an advantage because that have what they need and more for a specific action thats as logical as roles in game, it shouldn`t require any but an anolog and a trigger to shoot, you should only die by getting shot out or shot down. It simply makes no sense not even if you clarify it for players like a tops in a loading screen. on the other hand inless its a quick fix I think other issues should be atteanded to since the bigger issues will cuase more harm to the game and this one would/should wait a while longer (its been here a long time) if such instances mentioned above are correct. Oh my... The heavy is MLT, no skills require and minimal ISK required. The reason is not just the turret raping the gunner, but for more protection when engaged in prolonged combat(some scr users are good at dropping weak gunners). Saying a gunner should require nothing other than "an anolog and a trigger" is stupid. simple as. Compared to other issues Dust514 has this is a non issue, should be one of the last in line for fixes. Give me my scrambler pistol back....**
Taurion Bruni D3ATH CARD 244	Posted - 2014.07.24 16:12:00 - [23] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: Shouper of BHD wrote: I don`t think it makes sense that its expected of noobberrys or players who chance a gun on a dropship to be ready and more so to have heavy gear, it shouldn`t be a requirement, dedicated gunners as in thoose who build a load-out should be at an advantage because that have what they need and more for a specific action thats as logical as roles in game, it shouldn`t require any but an anolog and a trigger to shoot, you should only die by getting shot out or shot down. It simply makes no sense not even if you clarify it for players like a tops in a loading screen. on the other hand inless its a quick fix I think other issues should be atteanded to since the bigger issues will cuase more harm to the game and this one would/should wait a while longer (its been here a long time) if such instances mentioned above are correct. Oh my... The heavy is MLT, no skills require and minimal ISK required. The reason is not just the turret raping the gunner, but for more protection when engaged in prolonged combat(some scr users are good at dropping weak gunners). Saying a gunner should require nothing other than "an anolog and a trigger" is stupid. simple as. Compared to other issues Dust514 has this is a non issue, should be one of the last in line for fixes. It has waited its fix for much longer than it should, since vehicles were given a massive overhaul, this has been a pressing issue for me at least. Its time it gets fixed. Python Pilot // Minmatar Assault


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