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Baal Omniscient Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1986	Posted - 2014.07.21 21:33:00 - [31] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Why the ACR? It's a terrible weapon it has the second lowest DPS and Second Shortest Range of all the Assaults. It has just 6m range over the ABR. Futher more it has terrible max capacity and without the Assault Minmatar's bonus, it lacks the oomph to kill all but the softest targets with 1 mag. And WITH the Minmatar bonus you are so squishy you rarely get the chance to finish the mag unless your opponent is hellabad, so you wind up falling back to recover and reload in the process anyway. Cross Atu for CPM1 Winmatar Assault, Proficiency 5 SMG's & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0
PARKOUR PRACTIONER D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1707	Posted - 2014.07.21 21:54:00 - [32] - Quote How to be OP. Standard G1 scout, 2 mlt damps, 1 mlt kin, 1 mlt sheild, mlt shotgun, mlt smg, standard REs. OP, tremly cheap, 6k ISK, and good for training & hording ISK. Thats my 'OP' guide. PSN Sil4nt Chaozz Autistic Mechanic & Engineer, Matari in Dust & out 695k SP to MK.0, SG practicing if needed
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3116	Posted - 2014.07.21 22:16:00 - [33] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Why the ACR? It's a terrible weapon it has the second lowest DPS and Second Shortest Range of all the Assaults. It has just 6m range over the ABR. Futher more it has terrible max capacity and without the Assault Minmatar's bonus, it lacks the oomph to kill all but the softest targets with 1 mag. Obvious troll is obvious. The ACR has 420 DPS and 6m extra range over the ABR, it one of the worst Assault Variants. You probably have it confused with an actual combat rifle, being fired at full auto. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
843-Vika BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 102	Posted - 2014.07.21 22:17:00 - [34] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Why the ACR? It's a terrible weapon it has the second lowest DPS and Second Shortest Range of all the Assaults. It has just 6m range over the ABR. Futher more it has terrible max capacity and without the Assault Minmatar's bonus, it lacks the oomph to kill all but the softest targets with 1 mag. Obvious troll is obvious. The ACR has 420 DPS and 6m extra range over the ABR, it one of the worst Assault Variants. You probably have it confused with an actual combat rifle, being fired at full auto. Regular CR is a burst varient and only scrubs with a moded controller can get full auto from it
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3116	Posted - 2014.07.21 22:39:00 - [35] - Quote 843-Vika wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Why the ACR? It's a terrible weapon it has the second lowest DPS and Second Shortest Range of all the Assaults. It has just 6m range over the ABR. Futher more it has terrible max capacity and without the Assault Minmatar's bonus, it lacks the oomph to kill all but the softest targets with 1 mag. Obvious troll is obvious. The ACR has 420 DPS and 6m extra range over the ABR, it one of the worst Assault Variants. You probably have it confused with an actual combat rifle, being fired at full auto. Regular CR is a burst varient and only scrubs with a moded controller can get full auto from it It quite possible without a Modded Controller. This is the point, the whole reason the CR is unbalanced. You can get 6 perfect bursts a second, 6 is close to the average clicking speed of a human, meaning it is entirely achievable without a modded controller. I have met corps who train their members SPECIFICALLY to hit the perfect cadence. Doing so allows the CR to achieve 500DPS the 3rd highest of all rifles in the game, consistently. It needs to be brought down so that the highest achievable Burst rate is 4 per second. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 5434	Posted - 2014.07.21 23:19:00 - [36] - Quote Harpyja wrote: 1. Grab a Cal scout suit 2. Stack shield 3. Equip an ACR 4. Bunny hop and strafe left-right like mad in front of your targets Enjoy popping out of nowhere and killing everyone while taking almost no damage. HAHAHA ah man. a tear to my eye and everything... Here, you can borrow my Viziam Scrambler Rifle to solve your problem...in one shot...LITERALLY. Stealth Storm
Jack 3enimble Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 48	Posted - 2014.07.21 23:27:00 - [37] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: BlazeXYZ wrote: Izlare Lenix wrote: How to counter this 'OP Tactic.' Scrambler Rifle Lazor rifle Assault Rifle Shotgun Flux grenade followed by any weapon A CR or ACR used by someone that can aim And of course the best counter to any infantry type, the hmg If you can't kill a cal scout with one of the weapons listed above you suck and should go play Destiny. Somehow my gek is useless against a stacked caldari scout. Do anyone know why? Scrambler rifle and shotgun is the only option to counter caldari scouts in my opinion. Strange. In PCs I often use a Duvolle to handle stacked Cal Scouts, though I still prefer the Viziam SCR. I think I need to dust off my Carthum ASCR cause it should obliterate Cal scouts. Last PC I used either that or the Duvalle. no problemo
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2562	Posted - 2014.07.22 00:27:00 - [38] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Why the ACR? It's a terrible weapon it has the second lowest DPS and Second Shortest Range of all the Assaults. It has just 6m range over the ABR. Futher more it has terrible max capacity and without the Assault Minmatar's bonus, it lacks the oomph to kill all but the softest targets with 1 mag. Obvious troll is obvious. The ACR has 420 DPS and 6m extra range over the ABR, it one of the worst Assault Variants. You probably have it confused with an actual combat rifle, being fired at full auto. No confusion but the ACR obviously sucks because it's the weapon Frost Kitty, Kalante, Kobrah, and xD3struction along with many other top of the line slayers use Tanker/Logi 0 The number of 7ucks given
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 709	Posted - 2014.07.22 00:51:00 - [39] - Quote Harpyja wrote: Izlare Lenix wrote: How to counter this 'OP Tactic.' Scrambler Rifle Lazor rifle Assault Rifle Shotgun Flux grenade followed by any weapon A CR or ACR used by someone that can aim And of course the best counter to any infantry type, the hmg If you can't kill a cal scout with one of the weapons listed above you suck and should go play Destiny. Now, I use advanced level 5 Amarr assault with advanced laser rifle and prof 4. Those assholes can just bunnyhop and strafe to their delight and even strafe through my beam without getting a scratch. Then when I stop to reload, that's when they really start shooting at me and I end up dead. Needs stronger aim assist. I can't keep my aim on anyone at long range if they are strafing left-right. Either aim assist needs to become more effective, or the ridiculous left-right strafing needs to be nerfed and no jump should be able to exceed 1 meter, because scouts jumping higher than their own height is just stupid and ensures that nobody can keep their aim on them. LOL, dude.... you're just bad. Git Gud!!! Maybe ask Jason Pearson for some lessons?
2Berries Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 213	Posted - 2014.07.22 02:03:00 - [40] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: [quote=843-Vika][quote=Harpyja]1 I don't feel tardy... Got it bad, so bad... I am the cool. Shamma lamma mu mu

KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 5438	Posted - 2014.07.22 02:11:00 - [41] - Quote My Definition of Overpowered =Gives you an seemingly Unfair advantage (The advantage does exist thou, just not unfair since every player can use it if wanted/needed) while being very HARD to counter o simply has no Counter. Usually becomes the FOTM, or Fit Of The Month. You see, CAL SCOUTS do not fall in this category. GÖª Their seemingly unfair advantage comes in the form of Radar precision ,which to be optimal , severe EHP must be sacrificed gimping the suit quite a bunch. GÖª Its not unfair since you can use it yourself GÖª Its NOT Hard to counter, considering Flux,Locus Grenades,Scrambler rifles,Assault Scrambler Rifles or even the most basic of Assault Rifles can do them in seemingly fast (and im just mentioning light weapons that do damage to SHIELDS, but with the LOW EHP of scouts a combat rifle or Rail rifle can do them in just as fast). And while they CAN equip cloak their dampening is not equal to the Gal Scout so most of the times they can be picked up by Active scanners of Suits with Precision enhancers. GÖª Finally, its not FOTM. I've seen like 6 Cal scouts at proto level in my life. PS: For some Forum civilized discussion, try next time something like: Im getting owned by Cal Scouts , help. Or Having Difficulties against Caldari Scouts - suggestions. Etc.. Then read, learn and solve your problem. End Thread/ Stealth Storm
843-Vika BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 107	Posted - 2014.07.22 02:12:00 - [42] - Quote 2Berries wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: [quote=843-Vika][quote=Harpyja]1 I don't feel tardy... Got it bad, so bad... huh???????
Atiim Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 10813	Posted - 2014.07.22 02:34:00 - [43] - Quote lolACR. Once a ScRub, always a sCRub. -HAND
General12912 Gallente Marine Corps 216	Posted - 2014.07.22 03:13:00 - [44] - Quote wiseguy12 wrote: You now that caldari scouts aren't op. Your just whining because shield and armor are now more equal. Ask a caldari scout what he thinks is OP youll here gallente sh...stuff. hahaha! this shield tanked cal scout is something i have found was a problem before the shield extender buff. so try another sad excuse to tank your cal scout, scrub. Every suit Gk.0 <3 Gallente Federation Patriot
Harpyja Legio DXIV 2130	Posted - 2014.07.22 03:19:00 - [45] - Quote Ugh why do people keep bumping this up. I had an awful match causing me to post this where for the first time ever I had a slideshow game where over half of it was probably at 4 frames per second, rendering my laser rifle completely useless and finding myself slaughtered by scouts that seemed to have no problem taking me down. I was a little bit more than enraged at the time of the post. "By His light, and His will"- The Scriptures, 12:32
Espartoi Orkz Clan 298	Posted - 2014.07.22 03:53:00 - [46] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: How to counter this 'OP Tactic.' Scrambler Rifle Lazor rifle Assault Rifle Shotgun Flux grenade followed by any weapon A CR or ACR used by someone that can aim And of course the best counter to any infantry type, the hmg If you can't kill a cal scout with one of the weapons listed above you suck and should go play Destiny. Logging off for a while always works too. Shoot Smash Stomp Chop. Am a Giant Realistic Flying Tiger.
pegasis prime PROTO WOLVES 1806	Posted - 2014.07.22 04:44:00 - [47] - Quote Harpyja wrote: 1. Grab a Cal scout suit 2. Stack shield 3. Equip an ACR 4. Bunny hop and strafe left-right like mad in front of your targets Enjoy popping out of nowhere and killing everyone while taking almost no damage. that is until Mr cal c/series with 3 complex precisionenhancers and 2 complex range amps spots and guns you down with their sb rail rifle from 60 m away Proud Gunlogi pilot and forge gunner since August 2012. I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect Dark Taboo 1665	Posted - 2014.07.22 13:17:00 - [48] - Quote Harpyja wrote: 1. Grab a Cal scout suit 2. Stack shield 3. Equip an ACR 4. Bunny hop and strafe left-right like mad in front of your targets Enjoy popping out of nowhere and killing everyone while taking almost no damage. Now point out on the doll where the Caldari Scout touched you... Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
Lanius Pulvis SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 317	Posted - 2014.07.22 13:20:00 - [49] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: How to counter this 'OP Tactic.' Scrambler Rifle Lazor rifle Assault Rifle Shotgun Flux grenade followed by any weapon A CR or ACR used by someone that can aim And of course the best counter to any infantry type, the hmg If you can't kill a cal scout with one of the weapons listed above you suck and should go play Destiny. Although normally I would agree with you, I've experienced the much talked-about Cal scout hit detection problem myself. I've even had them strafe through lasers, taking no damage. Not new, just new to you.
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect Dark Taboo 1665	Posted - 2014.07.22 13:34:00 - [50] - Quote Harpyja wrote: Izlare Lenix wrote: How to counter this 'OP Tactic.' Scrambler Rifle Lazor rifle Assault Rifle Shotgun Flux grenade followed by any weapon A CR or ACR used by someone that can aim And of course the best counter to any infantry type, the hmg If you can't kill a cal scout with one of the weapons listed above you suck and should go play Destiny. Now, I use advanced level 5 Amarr assault with advanced laser rifle and prof 4. Those assholes can just bunnyhop and strafe to their delight and even strafe through my beam without getting a scratch. Then when I stop to reload, that's when they really start shooting at me and I end up dead. Needs stronger aim assist. I can't keep my aim on anyone at long range if they are strafing left-right. Either aim assist needs to become more effective, or the ridiculous left-right strafing needs to be nerfed and no jump should be able to exceed 1 meter, because scouts jumping higher than their own height is just stupid and ensures that nobody can keep their aim on them. People actually allow you to fully empty a clip at them before returning fire, and they actually survive ? WTF, also normally at long range it is easier to keep your gun over someone then it is at close range, more aim assist would mean complete lock on at long range you do know that if they increase aim assist for bad people, the good people with DS3's also benefit from the increased lock on, meaning you end up dead even faster, as they will need less concentration to aim at you, while you are still getting a brain stroke from aiming? If someone jumps, they are dead...because they can no longer move in mid air and anyone with decent gun game will extrapolate the heading, speed and distance covered by the jump and line up a headshot. Jumping is a big nono in my book and only use it when i absolutely am certain that i am about to die, jumping screws up any counter attack you want to place, unless you almost finished off your target. Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"

Scheneighnay McBob Cult of Gasai 5705	Posted - 2014.07.22 14:14:00 - [51] - Quote ShamelessALT wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Better strategy for being OP: Be an armor sentinel Use an HMG Win; you don't even need to pay attention to your surroundings like cal scouts do, it'll take at least a good 5 seconds for anything besides shotguns and HMGs to kill you, but your HMG will kill everything else in half a second or less. LOL scouts dont have to pay attention to sh*t their wallhacks do all the work for them... They have to pay attention to their wallhacks pé¦pâ+pé¦pâ½pâäpâ¬pâ¦pé¦pâ¼pâ+pâêpü»sñ¬S+ïpéè
2Berries Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 214	Posted - 2014.07.22 15:15:00 - [52] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: My Definition of Overpowered =Gives you an seemingly Unfair advantage (The advantage does exist thou, just not unfair since every player can use it if wanted/needed) while being very HARD to counter o simply has no Counter. Usually becomes the FOTM, or Fit Of The Month. You see, CAL SCOUTS do not fall in this category. GÖª Their seemingly unfair advantage comes in the form of Radar precision ,which to be optimal , severe EHP must be sacrificed gimping the suit quite a bunch. GÖª Its not unfair since you can use it yourself GÖª Its NOT Hard to counter, considering Flux,Locus Grenades,Scrambler rifles,Assault Scrambler Rifles or even the most basic of Assault Rifles can do them in seemingly fast (and im just mentioning light weapons that do damage to SHIELDS, but with the LOW EHP of scouts a combat rifle or Rail rifle can do them in just as fast). And while they CAN equip cloak their dampening is not equal to the Gal Scout so most of the times they can be picked up by Active scanners of Suits with Precision enhancers. GÖª Finally, its not FOTM. I've seen like 6 Cal scouts at proto level in my life. PS: For some Forum civilized discussion, try next time something like: Im getting owned by Cal Scouts , help. Or Having Difficulties against Caldari Scouts - suggestions. Etc.. Then read, learn and solve your problem. End Thread/ Damn, can't like this enough! I am the cool. Shamma lamma mu mu
843-Vika BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 112	Posted - 2014.07.22 15:51:00 - [53] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: People actually allow you to fully empty a clip at them before returning fire, and they actually survive ? WTF, also normally at long range it is easier to keep your gun over someone then it is at close range, more aim assist would mean complete lock on at long range you do know that if they increase aim assist for bad people, the good people with DS3's also benefit from the increased lock on, meaning you end up dead even faster, as they will need less concentration to aim at you, while you are still getting a brain stroke from aiming? If someone jumps, they are dead...because they can no longer move in mid air and anyone with decent gun game will extrapolate the heading, speed and distance covered by the jump and line up a headshot. Jumping is a big nono in my book and only use it when i absolutely am certain that i am about to die, jumping screws up any counter attack you want to place, unless you almost finished off your target. Aim assist is the worst thing to use in Dust 514.....it randomly moves when there is more then one person in your line of site and does not stay on target.....i have been killed before because of the ****** aspects of the aim assist.......only people with no real gun game need aim assist to be stronger so they feel like they have a better chance to kill someone......most of the vet/good players i have talked to have said that they turn off aim assist because it makes them kill less then kill more


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