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Ghural
WarRavens
Final Resolution.
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Posted - 2014.07.21 11:00:00 -
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I saw that interview.
legion needs to have an EVE - Legion link .. they have had 2 years to get it right with Dust. There is literally no excuse for them to delay it till later |
Ghural
WarRavens
Final Resolution.
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Posted - 2014.07.21 11:18:00 -
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We could. But many many many ideas have already been mentioned (by both players and CCP) and I feel we would just be re-treading old ground.
What we need is to convince CCP that there is value in Legion having an EVE/Dust link at launch. |
Ghural
WarRavens
Final Resolution.
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Posted - 2014.07.24 04:51:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:While it would be nice there is one massive factor you're missing... How are you going to convince the eve developers to build that link?
What a stupid thing to ask the OP.
This forum is full of suggestions on how to build on the Dust(legion)/link. Go read them.
CCP have done presentations on deepening the link. Go watch them.
An EVE/Legion link isn't just about some big feature like boarding titans (or stations, or player owned structures), it's also the smaller stuff like shared mail, chat, corps etc.
Even the ability to deliver orbitals has generated lots of activity in both games. Even though it doesn't generate any ISK for the EVE player. It does generate fun. Not everything has to result in some number going up in an imaginary wallet. Watching your enemies being blown to bits is reward enough.
Legion needs to have it from the beginning so it can be fully integrated into the game, not tacked on at some future date.
We've been beta testing the EVE/dust link for the last two years. That shouldn't go to waste.
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Ghural
WarRavens
Final Resolution.
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Posted - 2014.07.24 23:38:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:While it would be nice there is one massive factor you're missing... How are you going to convince the eve developers to build that link? Fact of the matter the link (the back end server magic that lets Dusters and Eve pilots all exist on TQ) is already there its just a matter of CCP utilizing it. As for why? It's in the core of the soul of the game and what drove people to have interest in the first place. At the end of the day though it'll be up to the CPM 1 and player community to convince CCP their desire for a link.
I disagree with your last sentence. Only because players have already been expressing their interest in a deeper eve/dust link for a long time now already and CCPs response has been to remove it from legion with a suggestion that they may add something later.
I think CCP is going to ignore the playerbase on this. |
Ghural
Pradox One
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Posted - 2014.07.29 08:35:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:In terms of Legion development, convincing CCP of this is a top priority of mine. The louder you guys are about it, the more likely they will take it seriously. Then the best way to go about doing that is by going to your CPM1 representatives and have them relay your opinions. Depends. Bringing me individual cases will definitely help, but a forum thread with a big chunk of the community supporting it that I can point to will help even more. Please keep this thread going, I want to point to it. ;)
Why point to just this thread when there have already been dozens on the subject? I think CCP is aware of player interest in a link, but is not going to do anything about it. CCP has a thing about listening to reason.
In any case. Why talk to the CPM? They are going to have very limited (if any) input into legion. And I can't really be bothered trying to convince someone on the CPM to go try to convince CCP on my behalf, especially since CCP has ignored CPM advice that would have prevented the fanfest debacle.
I have zero faith in the CPM. Not just because of some of the individuals on it. But and their limited scope (minor changes to Dust514) and their precisely zero leverage to make CCP listen. |
Ghural
Pradox One
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Posted - 2014.07.30 03:59:00 -
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Well I had to bottom line what I think would be a useful link between the two games. Regardless of the mechanics, there needs to be three things.
1) There needs to be a resource that is only in EVE that Legion players want
2) There needs to be a resource that is only in Legion that EVE players want
3) Players can set up contracts (jobs) to ask players from the other game to give them the resource in return for ISK.
The resource doesn't have to be building materials, though it could be.
It could be Legion players being able to find the location for lucrative exploration sites (un-scannable giant super solar asteroid fields for example) that they can then sell to EVE players for ISK
It could be EVE players scanning planets and finding lucrative loot sites for mercs.
It could be Legion players putting up a request for an orbital bombardment in return for ISK (payable after the orbital).
It could be EVE players asking Legion players to enter a derelict station to find implant components.
Whatever the particulars of the interaction. It needs to be more profound than being a minor modifier in faction warfare. And there needs to be an updated contracts(jobs) system to form the main interaction between the two games.
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