DUST Search - What made the Amarr Logi so special?

RedBleach LeSanglant wrote:

Lanius Pulvis wrote:

TheD1CK wrote:

843-Vika wrote:

Why is it that the amarr logi was the only logi with a side arm? What made them so special that the rest of the logi''s didn't get a side arm as well?

If it' based of off EVE lore, then why didnt the min suits get the armor reps like the lore stated they all had?

Instead of taking away the side arm for amarr why not just give it to all the logi suits?

It's special because.... there is no reason .. it's a logistics CCP decided to make an assault..

The Matari has more equipment whereas the Amarr got better a combat suit.

I'm not sure what changes got confirmed, but if the Amarr do get equal equipment slots to Matari
Then there is no reason for the Min.Logi not to have a sidearm slot as they should oppose each other

Unless CCP with their usual bias make the Amarr suit function better than Matari..
Which IMO is fine... If they actually bothered to make the inferior hp suits cost less ISK.
But they don't consider these things when they are chasing the unicorn around the office

Pirate

They'll be getting an equipment and losing the sidearm in Charlie. Making them the worst logi suit.

Unconfirmed. It was a proposal for Hotfix Charlie but with alot of discussion CCP has proposed several new ideas and lock the threads until they come back with their new proposals which may have:

The Amarr logi keeping its sidearm but only ever getting 3 Equpment slots
The Caldari logi getting a sidearm 3EQ and one less high or low slot.
Minmatar's H/L slot count favoring shields - may not change at all
Gallente's H/L slot count favoring armor - may not change at all

Lots of ideas are being worked on. Keep tuning in to the DEV posts to see when the new proposals are released

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843-Vika BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 93	Posted - 2014.07.20 19:18:00 - [1] - Quote Why is it that the amarr logi was the only logi with a side arm? What made them so special that the rest of the logi''s didn't get a side arm as well? If it' based of off EVE lore, then why didnt the min suits get the armor reps like the lore stated they all had? Instead of taking away the side arm for amarr why not just give it to all the logi suits?
knight guard fury Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 1130	Posted - 2014.07.20 19:26:00 - [2] - Quote it is the only combat logi. maybe if people read the Goddamn description of these motherfcking suits in-game than you would have known this already SP earned perday/week
Meee One Algintal Core Gallente Federation 929	Posted - 2014.07.20 19:32:00 - [3] - Quote 843-Vika wrote: Why is it that the amarr logi was the only logi with a side arm? What made them so special that the rest of the logi''s didn't get a side arm as well? If it' based of off EVE lore, then why didnt the min suits get the armor reps like the lore stated they all had? Instead of taking away the side arm for amarr why not just give it to all the logi suits? Because it's described as a suit 'that can deal out its own trama as well'. Implying heavily it can kill as well as any other suit,hence the sidearm. As a min logi i wouldn't mind +1 reps per second.
ShamelessALT Ametat Security Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2014.07.20 19:45:00 - [4] - Quote In-game description wrote: The Amarr variant is a durable, combat-focused suit that provides above-average protection, allowing logistic units to operate in the middle of a firefight, actively dispersing aid and support as needed while simultaneously engaging the enemy and inflicting trauma of its own. Nuff said If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful then you can possibly imagine...
B145PH3M3R The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 27	Posted - 2014.07.20 20:00:00 - [5] - Quote The only reason the sidearm was taken away from logis back in beta was because assaults were EXACTLY the same as logis back then. The two suits are completely different now. I dont understand why all logis cant have the sidearm back. Make assaults worth running and people will use them over logis still.
Dauth Jenkins Merc-0107 555	Posted - 2014.07.21 05:10:00 - [6] - Quote Logi suits don't all need a sidearm. That would just promote being a slayer logi -Sincerely --The Dual Swarm Commando
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3641	Posted - 2014.07.21 05:24:00 - [7] - Quote Dauth Jenkins wrote: Logi suits don't all need a sidearm. That would just promote being a slayer logi When has the Amarr logi ever been a fotm? Run, hide in fear while you can for the Amarr Scout is on the hunt! The eyes of God compelles you!!!
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3657	Posted - 2014.07.21 05:42:00 - [8] - Quote It was that they had the least slots. However... Amarr Logis complain enough that they didn't have to give up anything. Sidearm and slots for all!(except Caldari/Gallente/Minmatar) "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
CRNWLLC Gangsta Gank 371	Posted - 2014.07.21 17:34:00 - [9] - Quote It's parents were first cousins. All that weird Amarr bloodlines BS.
TOOMANY NAMES ALREADYTAKEn Going for the gold 4	Posted - 2014.07.21 17:45:00 - [10] - Quote The Imperial Commando ak.0 suit has 2 Light weapon slots AND 1 Sidearm slot... SO YEAH Shotgunner for life.

RendonaSix Techs Laboratory 115	Posted - 2014.07.21 17:50:00 - [11] - Quote TOOMANY NAMES ALREADYTAKEn wrote: The Imperial Commando ak.0 suit has 2 Light weapon slots AND 1 Sidearm slot... SO YEAH What's wrong with that?. Nothing to see here. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
843-Vika BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 97	Posted - 2014.07.21 18:41:00 - [12] - Quote TOOMANY NAMES ALREADYTAKEn wrote: The Imperial Commando ak.0 suit has 2 Light weapon slots AND 1 Sidearm slot... SO YEAH LIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BigStuarty New Age Empire. General Tso's Alliance 26	Posted - 2014.07.22 10:17:00 - [13] - Quote Also the glorious Anarr Logi suits have the slowest movement speed with low shield base and slightly higher base armour, the sidearm slow provided to us is a slight help against bouncy calscouts and every other suit that outstrafes us so we can spray smg fire at the nasty proto ninjas, I would sacrifice the sidearm for parity in speed and slots but its an amarr suit it what makes us unique and when somebody became a cal,gall,min logi ...maybe this should of been a consideration as we didn't get it by a stealth update, As a point of fact how many Amarr Logis QQ about their slow movement speed ... none ...we just get on with it ... Long Live the Empress
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game Dark Taboo 1125	Posted - 2014.07.22 10:57:00 - [14] - Quote 843-Vika wrote: Why is it that the amarr logi was the only logi with a side arm? What made them so special that the rest of the logi''s didn't get a side arm as well? If it' based of off EVE lore, then why didnt the min suits get the armor reps like the lore stated they all had? Instead of taking away the side arm for amarr why not just give it to all the logi suits? It's special because.... there is no reason .. it's a logistics CCP decided to make an assault.. The Matari has more equipment whereas the Amarr got better a combat suit. I'm not sure what changes got confirmed, but if the Amarr do get equal equipment slots to Matari Then there is no reason for the Min.Logi not to have a sidearm slot as they should oppose each other Unless CCP with their usual bias make the Amarr suit function better than Matari.. Which IMO is fine... If they actually bothered to make the inferior hp suits cost less ISK. But they don't consider these things when they are chasing the unicorn around the office This forum is more toxic to our playerbase than All the stompers combined Get good at playing before you talk crap
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 15986	Posted - 2014.07.22 11:46:00 - [15] - Quote TOOMANY NAMES ALREADYTAKEn wrote: The Imperial Commando ak.0 suit has 2 Light weapon slots AND 1 Sidearm slot... SO YEAH This is a bug. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Minmatar Sentinel =// Unlocked
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game Dark Taboo 1127	Posted - 2014.07.22 11:51:00 - [16] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: TOOMANY NAMES ALREADYTAKEn wrote: The Imperial Commando ak.0 suit has 2 Light weapon slots AND 1 Sidearm slot... SO YEAH This is a bug. Just a less important one than - - Republic Mk.0 Scout - had 3 equipment slots -The Gal scout having an extra high rather than it's low.. It's not like all those bugs have been here since yesterday.. they are old... yet The Imperial Commando has not been fixed while the others did get fixed.. why is this?? - Laziness?? - Incompetence?? - Bias?? Feel free to take your votes.. its either 1 of the 3 or all of the above This forum is more toxic to our playerbase than All the stompers combined Get good at playing before you talk crap
Lanius Pulvis SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 317	Posted - 2014.07.22 12:11:00 - [17] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: 843-Vika wrote: Why is it that the amarr logi was the only logi with a side arm? What made them so special that the rest of the logi''s didn't get a side arm as well? If it' based of off EVE lore, then why didnt the min suits get the armor reps like the lore stated they all had? Instead of taking away the side arm for amarr why not just give it to all the logi suits? It's special because.... there is no reason .. it's a logistics CCP decided to make an assault.. The Matari has more equipment whereas the Amarr got better a combat suit. I'm not sure what changes got confirmed, but if the Amarr do get equal equipment slots to Matari Then there is no reason for the Min.Logi not to have a sidearm slot as they should oppose each other Unless CCP with their usual bias make the Amarr suit function better than Matari.. Which IMO is fine... If they actually bothered to make the inferior hp suits cost less ISK. But they don't consider these things when they are chasing the unicorn around the office They'll be getting an equipment and losing the sidearm in Charlie. Making them the worst logi suit. Not new, just new to you.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game Dark Taboo 1128	Posted - 2014.07.22 12:13:00 - [18] - Quote Lanius Pulvis wrote: TheD1CK wrote: 843-Vika wrote: Why is it that the amarr logi was the only logi with a side arm? What made them so special that the rest of the logi''s didn't get a side arm as well? If it' based of off EVE lore, then why didnt the min suits get the armor reps like the lore stated they all had? Instead of taking away the side arm for amarr why not just give it to all the logi suits? It's special because.... there is no reason .. it's a logistics CCP decided to make an assault.. The Matari has more equipment whereas the Amarr got better a combat suit. I'm not sure what changes got confirmed, but if the Amarr do get equal equipment slots to Matari Then there is no reason for the Min.Logi not to have a sidearm slot as they should oppose each other Unless CCP with their usual bias make the Amarr suit function better than Matari.. Which IMO is fine... If they actually bothered to make the inferior hp suits cost less ISK. But they don't consider these things when they are chasing the unicorn around the office They'll be getting an equipment and losing the sidearm in Charlie. Making them the worst logi suit. They will be taken down to equal levels with their Logistics counter-parts... making them the worst logi suit ... not really it just puts logistics in their place.. SUPPORT This forum is more toxic to our playerbase than All the stompers combined Get good at playing before you talk crap
Lanius Pulvis SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 317	Posted - 2014.07.22 12:19:00 - [19] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Lanius Pulvis wrote: TheD1CK wrote: 843-Vika wrote: Why is it that the amarr logi was the only logi with a side arm? What made them so special that the rest of the logi''s didn't get a side arm as well? If it' based of off EVE lore, then why didnt the min suits get the armor reps like the lore stated they all had? Instead of taking away the side arm for amarr why not just give it to all the logi suits? It's special because.... there is no reason .. it's a logistics CCP decided to make an assault.. The Matari has more equipment whereas the Amarr got better a combat suit. I'm not sure what changes got confirmed, but if the Amarr do get equal equipment slots to Matari Then there is no reason for the Min.Logi not to have a sidearm slot as they should oppose each other Unless CCP with their usual bias make the Amarr suit function better than Matari.. Which IMO is fine... If they actually bothered to make the inferior hp suits cost less ISK. But they don't consider these things when they are chasing the unicorn around the office They'll be getting an equipment and losing the sidearm in Charlie. Making them the worst logi suit. They will be taken down to equal levels with their Logistics counter-parts... making them the worst logi suit ... not really it just puts logistics in their place.. SUPPORT Unfortunately now they'll have all the same drawbacks as before, slow speed, crap shield regen, arguably the weakest logi bonus. And they lose the one benefit they had, a sidearm, which in and of itself is situational anyway. Not new, just new to you.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game Dark Taboo 1129	Posted - 2014.07.22 12:27:00 - [20] - Quote Well to be fair the bonus is arguably the best and worst bonus.. - randomly, most players may not use your links - squads, you should be working with your troops keeping them active with fast respawns. It has low shield stats (it's an armour suit) though it has reasonable HP, and above average stamina... which most players overlook.. If I move faster but you move further then you will contest other suits in a race This forum is more toxic to our playerbase than All the stompers combined Get good at playing before you talk crap

Lanius Pulvis SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 317	Posted - 2014.07.22 12:55:00 - [21] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Well to be fair the bonus is arguably the best and worst bonus.. - randomly, most players may not use your links - squads, you should be working with your troops keeping them active with fast respawns. It has low shield stats (it's an armour suit) though it has reasonable HP, and above average stamina... which most players overlook.. If I move faster but you move further then you will contest other suits in a race All valid points, though Domination and PC are the two modes where the bonus would be most beneficial. And I do like the stamina on Amar suits, but better speed gets you back in cover sooner. I guess I just don't see the benefit of the extra equip slot out weighing a sidearm. Not new, just new to you.
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1423	Posted - 2014.07.22 13:30:00 - [22] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: TOOMANY NAMES ALREADYTAKEn wrote: The Imperial Commando ak.0 suit has 2 Light weapon slots AND 1 Sidearm slot... SO YEAH This is a bug. A bug that has been known about for months and never fixed. I still remember sending Logibro that picture of the Imperial Ak.0. He didn't quite know what to say. If you find an issue and I stumble upon your thread, I will do my darnedest to get the issue known. Also, Raptors...
Leeroy Gannarsein Legio DXIV 580	Posted - 2014.07.22 14:15:00 - [23] - Quote Lanius Pulvis wrote: TheD1CK wrote: Well to be fair the bonus is arguably the best and worst bonus.. - randomly, most players may not use your links - squads, you should be working with your troops keeping them active with fast respawns. It has low shield stats (it's an armour suit) though it has reasonable HP, and above average stamina... which most players overlook.. If I move faster but you move further then you will contest other suits in a race All valid points, though Domination and PC are the two modes where the bonus would be most beneficial. And I do like the stamina on Amar suits, but better speed gets you back in cover sooner. I guess I just don't see the benefit of the extra equip slot out weighing a sidearm. Does the extra mod slot all the other suits get sway you? TheD1CK is pretty clearly biased. Especially since his suit has actually a higher max EHP than the Amarr suit, and more fitting space to fill it with. Literally the only advantage the Amarr Logistics has is the sidearm. As we stand now we have fewer equipment, fewer slots and a bonus that only benefits you while you're alive, which would be okay if it was actually involved in surviving, only it isn't. It would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart... CCP BLOWOUT FOR CPM1
RedBleach LeSanglant Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 642	Posted - 2014.07.22 19:55:00 - [24] - Quote Lanius Pulvis wrote: TheD1CK wrote: 843-Vika wrote: Why is it that the amarr logi was the only logi with a side arm? What made them so special that the rest of the logi''s didn't get a side arm as well? If it' based of off EVE lore, then why didnt the min suits get the armor reps like the lore stated they all had? Instead of taking away the side arm for amarr why not just give it to all the logi suits? It's special because.... there is no reason .. it's a logistics CCP decided to make an assault.. The Matari has more equipment whereas the Amarr got better a combat suit. I'm not sure what changes got confirmed, but if the Amarr do get equal equipment slots to Matari Then there is no reason for the Min.Logi not to have a sidearm slot as they should oppose each other Unless CCP with their usual bias make the Amarr suit function better than Matari.. Which IMO is fine... If they actually bothered to make the inferior hp suits cost less ISK. But they don't consider these things when they are chasing the unicorn around the office They'll be getting an equipment and losing the sidearm in Charlie. Making them the worst logi suit. Unconfirmed. It was a proposal for Hotfix Charlie but with alot of discussion CCP has proposed several new ideas and lock the threads until they come back with their new proposals which may have: The Amarr logi keeping its sidearm but only ever getting 3 Equpment slots The Caldari logi getting a sidearm 3EQ and one less high or low slot. Minmatar's H/L slot count favoring shields - may not change at all Gallente's H/L slot count favoring armor - may not change at all Lots of ideas are being worked on. Keep tuning in to the DEV posts to see when the new proposals are released The Logi Code. Cross Atu for CPM1 - A logical choice
B145PH3M3R The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 28	Posted - 2014.07.22 23:25:00 - [25] - Quote RedBleach LeSanglant wrote: Lanius Pulvis wrote: TheD1CK wrote: 843-Vika wrote: Why is it that the amarr logi was the only logi with a side arm? What made them so special that the rest of the logi''s didn't get a side arm as well? If it' based of off EVE lore, then why didnt the min suits get the armor reps like the lore stated they all had? Instead of taking away the side arm for amarr why not just give it to all the logi suits? It's special because.... there is no reason .. it's a logistics CCP decided to make an assault.. The Matari has more equipment whereas the Amarr got better a combat suit. I'm not sure what changes got confirmed, but if the Amarr do get equal equipment slots to Matari Then there is no reason for the Min.Logi not to have a sidearm slot as they should oppose each other Unless CCP with their usual bias make the Amarr suit function better than Matari.. Which IMO is fine... If they actually bothered to make the inferior hp suits cost less ISK. But they don't consider these things when they are chasing the unicorn around the office They'll be getting an equipment and losing the sidearm in Charlie. Making them the worst logi suit. Unconfirmed. It was a proposal for Hotfix Charlie but with alot of discussion CCP has proposed several new ideas and lock the threads until they come back with their new proposals which may have: The Amarr logi keeping its sidearm but only ever getting 3 Equpment slots The Caldari logi getting a sidearm 3EQ and one less high or low slot. Minmatar's H/L slot count favoring shields - may not change at all Gallente's H/L slot count favoring armor - may not change at all Lots of ideas are being worked on. Keep tuning in to the DEV posts to see when the new proposals are released All true, but from the new proposed slot counts, amarr will be losing its sidearm still. I wouldnt hold your breath on them getting it back either. Just blew through my last 100 proto suits before I switch to gallogi.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12117	Posted - 2014.07.22 23:41:00 - [26] - Quote 843-Vika wrote: Why is it that the amarr logi was the only logi with a side arm? What made them so special that the rest of the logi''s didn't get a side arm as well? If it' based of off EVE lore, then why didnt the min suits get the armor reps like the lore stated they all had? Instead of taking away the side arm for amarr why not just give it to all the logi suits? No logi should have side arms..... Amarr Logi however was always 1 Equip slot down and 1 module slot down on the others if I remember correctly. "Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon


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