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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.20 15:18:00 -
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Currntly swarms are tagged in the code as an explosive weapon, just like REs and mass drivers. The issue with this is that swarm launchers are a Caldari weapon but the Caldari commando recieves no bonus when using them, the Minmatar commando gets the bonus.
It seems like changing the tags associated with the swarm launcher from 'explosive' to 'missile', then changing the Caldari Commando's bonus to affect 'hybrid rail' and 'missile' weapons would be an easy fix.
Has this change not happened yet because changing the weapon's tags requires a client side change? If it is handled server side then this change really needs to happen in an upcoming hotfix. Delta perhaps?
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.20 15:39:00 -
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CHANCEtheChAn wrote:Mobius Kaethis wrote:Currntly swarms are tagged in the code as an explosive weapon, just like REs and mass drivers. The issue with this is that swarm launchers are a Caldari weapon but the Caldari commando recieves no bonus when using them, the Minmatar commando gets the bonus.
It seems like changing the tags associated with the swarm launcher from 'explosive' to 'missile', then changing the Caldari Commando's bonus to affect 'hybrid rail' and 'missile' weapons would be an easy fix.
Has this change not happened yet because changing the weapon's tags requires a client side change? If it is handled server side then this change really needs to happen in an upcoming hotfix. Delta perhaps? This has been talked about since the beginning of DUST I think the main reason they were Caldari originally is because they did armor damage and most most of everything was Caldari and Gallente back then Honestly it should just be changed to be a Minmatar weapon like it should always have been
Really? Look at the design. It is clearly a Caldari weapon.
Plus think about the EvE universe. Missile weapons and hybrid rails are what Caldari are bonused towards. Minmatar, while being able to use missiles and having a few ships with missile bonuses, are primarily projectile using ships.
In Dust this same balance could be achieved by giving Minmatar the non-missile explosives and giving Caldari the missile ones. This is already true with vehicles. Caldari DS and Tanks recieve bonuses to using missiels. Before you say it I do realize that there are no Minmatar vehicles in the game but in Legion when they do show up I expect that they will have bonuses towards vehicle based projectile weapons, not missiles.
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.20 15:44:00 -
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Atiim wrote:We could always give them both a bonus to the Swarm Launcher.
That benefits both sides of the coin (CalComs & MinComs), without negative repercussions.
That is an excellent point. Not only would it spread the light AV out more evenly among the commandos but it wouldn't be unreasonable given that the lore supports both the races using missiles.
The only commando without a light AV weapon is Amarr, a fact that sadly will not be fixed until we get Legion.
No client side updates 
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1527
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Posted - 2014.07.20 16:00:00 -
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Defy Gravity wrote:Actually missile tech was originally minmatar and caldari stole it from them and used it as their own & improved it
I'll take that as a vote for both commandos getting a bonus to them.
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.21 14:17:00 -
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CCP I am bumping this idea because I really don't want it to just get ignored. Please take a look and consider implementing it in hotfix Delta.
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.23 14:54:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:
I also never understood the point of a not packed av grenade. It's a homing grenade why would you need slightly more AOE for less damage?
The non-packed av nades home much better than the packed ones. You can actually watch them lock-on and fly towards their targets. The packed av nades' homing is mild by comparison.
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.23 15:34:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Mobius Kaethis wrote: Caldari Tanks recieve bonuses to using missiels. When did this happen ?
Can't believe I spelled missiles wrong.
If they don't get a bonus any more than that is just me being an old fart and remembering the good old days when Cal tanks used to get a missile bonus.
Can someone confirm if they do/do not get a bonus so I can change this post to seem less stupid. I have to go to work.
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