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TYCHUS MAXWELL
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Posted - 2014.07.20 19:00:00 -
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ShamelessALT wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:ShamelessALT wrote:Since the Amarr Logis is losing its sidearm slot it is no longer feasible or even sane to run LR or ScR on my logi. So which is more OP CR or RR? Is was never really feasible to run ether LR or ScR on the amarr logi, pre patch or after... While the ScR and LR really shine on the commando and assault they are still great weapons if you play to their advantages. that is IF you have a sidearm for those times when you get your gun too hot. this is no longer so
The heat is the Drawback... Hell I run Scramblers on my Caldari logi you just have to not spam it like a ****** and you will be fine. If you can't use a ScR without a sidearm your gun game is the problem not the gun, it's actually the most ammo to damage efficient weapon in the game making it ideal for logis with no sidearm. If you overheat the gun you can't swap to a sidearm anyways. |
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Posted - 2014.07.20 19:08:00 -
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ShamelessALT wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:ShamelessALT wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:ShamelessALT wrote:Since the Amarr Logis is losing its sidearm slot it is no longer feasible or even sane to run LR or ScR on my logi. So which is more OP CR or RR? Is was never really feasible to run ether LR or ScR on the amarr logi, pre patch or after... While the ScR and LR really shine on the commando and assault they are still great weapons if you play to their advantages. that is IF you have a sidearm for those times when you get your gun too hot. this is no longer so The heat is the Drawback... Hell I run Scramblers on my Caldari logi you just have to not spam it like a ****** and you will be fine. If you can't use a ScR without a sidearm your gun game is the problem not the gun, it's actually the most ammo to damage efficient weapon in the game making it ideal for logis with no sidearm. If you overheat the gun you can't swap to a sidearm anyways. try holding a group of reds back while protecting your uplinks so your squad can spawn in take the point with JUST a ScR then get back to me...
Try doing that with any weapon. Expecting to take on the world does not for balance make. You're a logi, that was the trade off, you are the one that sets up the base of operations and make a huge difference because of this. The fact that you can also hold off droves of players solo is a broken aspect. That said, you can hold off bad players indefinitely I do it all the time with a scrambler logi. It's still your gun game if you can't be effective, the rest of the logis had to learn to make due just because your spoiled ass didn't for CCP's glue huffing sessions of balance doesn't mean you deserved a sidearm. It's like tankers whining that they can't take one 7 avers anymore like they did in 1.7. |
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Posted - 2014.07.20 19:20:00 -
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ShamelessALT wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Try doing that with any weapon. Expecting to take on the world does not for balance make. You're a logi, that was the trade off, you are the one that sets up the base of operations and make a huge difference because of this. The fact that you can also hold off droves of players solo is a broken aspect. That said, you can hold off bad players indefinitely I do it all the time with a scrambler logi. It's still your gun game if you can't be effective, the rest of the logis had to learn to make due just because your spoiled ass didn't for CCP's glue huffing sessions of balance doesn't mean you deserved a sidearm. It's like tankers whining that they can't take on 7 avers anymore like they did in 1.7. while i find your hyperbole most amusing it DOES NOT change the fact that: A) if you are dead your uplinks dont get their bonus making them sh*t B) NO ONE will spawn on a sh*t uplink
In response to A)
This is an issue with the logi bonus for amarr being another glue huffing symptom *BUT* Amarr logis have had a sidearm for a long time and this is in no way a good argument that "I should be unstoppable cuz mah buff" roll with a squad then.
in response to B)
That is a personal problem. Don't put uplinks in ****** places, I have no problems getting people to spawn on my uplinks but I don't put them in "******" places.
All of your whining is because you are bad and should feel bad, that is all. |
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Posted - 2014.07.20 19:52:00 -
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ShamelessALT wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:ShamelessALT wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Try doing that with any weapon. Expecting to take on the world does not for balance make. You're a logi, that was the trade off, you are the one that sets up the base of operations and make a huge difference because of this. The fact that you can also hold off droves of players solo is a broken aspect. That said, you can hold off bad players indefinitely I do it all the time with a scrambler logi. It's still your gun game if you can't be effective, the rest of the logis had to learn to make due just because your spoiled ass didn't for CCP's glue huffing sessions of balance doesn't mean you deserved a sidearm. It's like tankers whining that they can't take on 7 avers anymore like they did in 1.7. while i find your hyperbole most amusing it DOES NOT change the fact that: A) if you are dead your uplinks dont get their bonus making them sh*t B) NO ONE will spawn on a sh*t uplink In response to A) This is an issue with the logi bonus for amarr being another glue huffing symptom *BUT* Amarr logis have had a sidearm for a long time and this is in no way a good argument that "I should be unstoppable cuz mah buff" roll with a squad then. in response to B) That is a personal problem. Don't put uplinks in ****** places, I have no problems getting people to spawn on my uplinks but I don't put them in "******" places. All of your whining is because you are bad and should feel bad, that is all. You call it whining in a pathetic attempt to detract from its validity but I'm willing to bet that most if not ALL Amarr Logis will agree that the sidearm in exchange for a equip slot is fine
Then what is the purpose of this thread? As it was already pointed out you could never switch to a sidearm if you overheat anyways. This thread was a poor attempt to hide behind RP elements as to why you should keep a sidearm unlike all the other logis. This sort of thing is why this game has had balance issues from the get go because people like you claim "My amarr weapon is useless on my amarr" and I'm saying NO, No sir! I use your useless amarr weapon without a sidearm all the time, you're just whining. |
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Posted - 2014.07.20 20:33:00 -
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ShamelessALT wrote: The purpose of this thread is to find out the most OP light weapon so if CCP Rattatai doesnt see reason I will still be able to supply my bonused uplinks after my suit gets castrated.
P.S. I can smell the stench of your anti Amarr bias all the way over here so if you don't know which is the most OP weapon kindly see your way out of this discussion slave...
Starting the RP bullshit are we? I knew I had you pegged. If you want to know what weapon is good at what well look no further I use all of them.
As far as rifles go, Combat Rifle has good versatility but also has terrible damage/ammo efficiency so you will want to carry a nanohive as you will eat right through it, it also will get outclassed at range by pretty much everything but the assault rifle. The Rail Rifle climbs much more harshly and sprays when fired at the hip much like the scrambler rifle but it has great optimal range only bested by the laser rifle. But according to your criteria id say the Combat Rifle is your best bet since you don't want a ScR. Just know in long range engagements you will get wrecked by most the rifles and in close range engagements an assault rifle can mow you down.
The ScR is still king of Alpha damage and ammo efficiency but if you just absolutely have to throw your pity parade roll a CR. Instead of overheating or waiting to not overheat you will be reloading. The reloading aspect of the lower clips in rail and CR rifles is what makes the its a better 1vG weapon pretty moot. In 1vG it's all about how good the 1 is vs. how good the G is anyways. |
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Posted - 2014.07.20 22:58:00 -
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ShamelessALT wrote:Lol you think Im an RPer...? Sorry to inform you, but once again you are dead wrong I merely pointed out your bias against the Amarr and proceeded to insult you in an amusing manner. It does seem like I struck a nerve though 
Yeah it hurt me so much that I gave you advice. You were already confirmed as an RPer when you assumed amarr weapons and amarr suits would work the best together. Even a good dev team can't deliver something like that without the prohibition of cross classing. Just admit you created this thread to whine about losing a sidearm and had no intention of taking any of the good advice players have been giving you in this thread. |
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Posted - 2014.07.20 23:29:00 -
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ShamelessALT wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:ShamelessALT wrote:Lol you think Im an RPer...? Sorry to inform you, but once again you are dead wrong I merely pointed out your bias against the Amarr and proceeded to insult you in an amusing manner. It does seem like I struck a nerve though Yeah it hurt me so much that I gave you advice. You were already confirmed as an RPer when you assumed amarr weapons and amarr suits would work the best together. Even a good dev team can't deliver something like that without the prohibition of cross classing. Just admit you created this thread to whine about losing a sidearm and had no intention of taking any of the good advice players have been giving you in this thread. wrong again I have every intention of skilling into a different weapon(CR currently has the most votes atm) should the Amarr logi get castrated. Also I'd like to note that the eve dev team has yet to make an Amarr ship that cant use lasers...
>Implying I said you can't fit lasers on an Amarr ship or even that apparently your argument that the ScR is USELESS without a sidearm is apparently suddenly my argument.
Can't help you don't into reading comprehension. And that's cool if you want to backpedal just don't whine about something being useless that isn't and expect not to get rebuked. Next time if you want to whine about a weapon whine about the flaylock. |
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