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Yokal Bob
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo
575
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Posted - 2014.07.19 21:45:00 -
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Please stop these things from been thrown already
If its not anime, its not real
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1164
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Posted - 2014.07.19 21:51:00 -
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I bet you're annoyed by remotes used as grenades?
Instead of nerfing the throw (which is crucial in AV work) ask for further nerf in activation delay.
Activation delay, the earliest possible moment the new RE can be detonated. Has no effect on AV work but HUGE impact in using them as unavoidable death frisbees!
People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
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KING CHECKMATE
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
5362
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Posted - 2014.07.19 21:52:00 -
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Yokal Bob wrote:Please stop these things from been thrown already
HAHAHA .
no.
''Instead of nerfing the throw (which is crucial in AV work) ask for further nerf in activation delay.
Activation delay, the earliest possible moment the new RE can be detonated. Has no effect on AV work but HUGE impact in using them as unavoidable death frisbees!''
IT has like 1mts range. People doing this are just trolling you, as they have to get so close it would be safer to just use NK.
R/E are ok.
Stealth Storm
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Booby Tuesdays
Tuesdays With Boobies
679
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Posted - 2014.07.19 21:57:00 -
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I'll stop throwing remotes when you stop riding around in Tanks and LAV's with a bricked heavy suit and your trusty Boundless HMG.
Melee Weapon of Choice: Nokia-3310 Prof. V
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RYN0CER0S
Rise Of Old Dudes
575
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Posted - 2014.07.19 21:59:00 -
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It should be in the grenade slot.
Done.
PSN: The_Rynoceros
Console Master Race
"It's better to burn out, than fade away." ~Def Leppard
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Zindorak
1.U.P
153
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Posted - 2014.07.19 22:07:00 -
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Yokal Bob wrote:Please stop these things from been thrown already Lets stop Links and Hives from being thrown mkay
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Vesperz
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
97
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Posted - 2014.07.19 22:11:00 -
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It's like 1 meter? Lmao stop bunching up you fools. Also great way to deal with vehicles who try to road kill you.
Live by honor, kill by stealth.
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
4240
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Posted - 2014.07.19 22:28:00 -
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I was told to direct you to the Medical Offices One case of butthurt
Smell the burning flesh. Taste the tangy sulfur air. Volcano Season - Moltar's Haiku : SGC2C
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Atiim
Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire.
10715
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Posted - 2014.07.19 22:41:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote: IT has like 1mts range.
All Remote Explosives have a 5m range. Though I'm not advocating a nerf to REs however, as it's the only counter to 1200 eHP Sentinels being spammed inside an enclosed area.. Not to mention that they already appear on Active Scanners.
s for nerfing activation time, this could be a nerf to AV if you use the PLC-RE tactic, as nerfing the activation time can give a pilot enough time to activate a Shield Booster, which will cause it's shields to fully recharge, in-turn negating the incoming alpha damage needed to OHK.
And on that day, that very day, not a single Pilot lived...
-HAND
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KING CHECKMATE
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
5364
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Posted - 2014.07.19 22:52:00 -
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Atiim wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote: IT has like 1mts range.
All Remote Explosives have a 5m range. Though I'm not advocating a nerf to REs however, as it's the only counter to 1200 eHP Sentinels being spammed inside an enclosed area.. Not to mention that they already appear on Active Scanners. s for nerfing activation time, this could be a nerf to AV if you use the PLC-RE tactic, as nerfing the activation time can give a pilot enough time to activate a Shield Booster, which will cause it's shields to fully recharge, in-turn negating the incoming alpha damage needed to OHK.
i meant, throwing range.
Stealth Storm
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Atiim
Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire.
10717
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Posted - 2014.07.19 22:54:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote: i meant, throwing range.
Oh. Well, then nevermind.
And on that day, that very day, not a single Pilot lived...
-HAND
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Michael Arck
4900
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Posted - 2014.07.19 22:58:00 -
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Eh, so REs are the next subject on GD's plate to nerf? What else can we throw on that lovely tray of nerf what annoys?
Archistrategos
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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Will Driver
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
148
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Posted - 2014.07.19 23:12:00 -
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I agree they should not be able to be tossed like silent grenades.
GÇ£Creativity is knowing how to hide your sourcesGÇ¥
GÇò Albert Einstein
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Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
5680
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Posted - 2014.07.19 23:27:00 -
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Well, it's your fault if you break your controller because you threw it.
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming
1219
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Posted - 2014.07.20 00:31:00 -
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RE's are ok. Just rework the animation.
It's annoying looking up the stairs to see a player place it at his feet at the top but then blow everyone to smithereens when it was actually chucked to the bottom.
"The air smells damp and oppressive, like a wet nun"
"Why am I talking to a lightbulb? Illuminate me"
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IVIaster LUKE
Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn
621
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Posted - 2014.07.20 00:34:00 -
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To bad I can't chuck-em out of Dropships.
Scouts, Heavies and CR's.....Oh my!
They don't have "New Balance" shoes in Iceland?
Figures.
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J4yne C0bb
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
486
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Posted - 2014.07.20 01:23:00 -
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Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:RE's are ok. Just rework the animation.
It's annoying looking up the stairs to see a player place it at his feet at the top but then blow everyone to smithereens when it was actually chucked to the bottom. Yeah, this is crap. REs should not be throwable, not in the manner they are now.
If you want to equip throwable explosives, there is a name for those. They are called grenades.
If you want to keep your frisbee REs, then fine. Make them visible like grenades and all other pieces of enemy equipment on the battlefield -- outlined in red for all to see.
Min Logi | aka Punch R0ckgroin, fatman
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
3088
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Posted - 2014.07.20 01:28:00 -
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Throw?
My goldfish can throw further than RE's are. They have 1.5m throw range (down from sliding 10m in chrome) and have a 3 second delay, how much more do you want?
Let me guess though, you probably a heavy with a nice HMG and 2 logjs slaved to you and you are fed up with dying because someone threw an RE on the wall next to where you were waiting?
They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank!
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
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Dauth Jenkins
Merc-0107
555
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Posted - 2014.07.20 02:10:00 -
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I'm annoyed when my team is camped in a building (due to the other team pushing us back to it) and then having a 5k mlt scout run in and toss REs before anyone can stop him, and theirs no way I can warn my blueberry team. Scanner (which show R.Es) only work in squads, and you can't destroy it, because it may kill the blues. It's a lose lose. You just get to sit there and watch your blues die.
PS. If theirs a safe way to disarm remotes, I'd like to know about it.
-Sincerely
--The Dual Swarm Commando
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Zelda Harkinian
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
130
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Posted - 2014.07.20 02:20:00 -
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Dauth Jenkins wrote:I'm annoyed when my team is camped in a building (due to the other team pushing us back to it) and then having a 5k mlt scout run in and toss REs before anyone can stop him, and theirs no way I can warn my blueberry team. Scanner (which show R.Es) only work in squads, and you can't destroy it, because it may kill the blues. It's a lose lose. You just get to sit there and watch your blues die.
PS. If theirs a safe way to disarm remotes, I'd like to know about it. I think a locus grenade will disarm them, but I'm not sure if they just fizzle out or go with a bang.
Anyways, I don't see a problem with remotes being thrown. it sucks to get killed by one, but then again, in order for that to happen a scout has to get pretty close to you, and at that point, you would already be dead if the scout had a shotgun or nova knives. |
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Atiim
Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire.
10724
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Posted - 2014.07.20 02:24:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote: Let me guess though, you probably a heavy with a nice HMG and 2 logjs slaved to you and you are fed up with dying because someone threw an RE on the wall next to where you were waiting?
Yokal runs an Amarr Logi.
And on that day, that very day, not a single Pilot lived...
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2538
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Posted - 2014.07.20 02:29:00 -
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https://zkillboard.com/kill/40094277/ https://zkillboard.com/kill/40094663/
Tanker/Logi
0 The number of 7ucks given
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Atiim
Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire.
10724
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Posted - 2014.07.20 02:32:00 -
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That's odd.
I've never seen him run his Sentinel in PUBs.
And on that day, that very day, not a single Pilot lived...
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emm kay
New Age Empire. General Tso's Alliance
134
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Posted - 2014.07.20 02:36:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Lets stop Links and Hives from being thrown mkay
I'll get right on that!, zindorak.
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You called, sir?
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TechMechMeds
Techs Laboratory
3929
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Posted - 2014.07.20 05:40:00 -
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Zelda Harkinian wrote:Dauth Jenkins wrote:I'm annoyed when my team is camped in a building (due to the other team pushing us back to it) and then having a 5k mlt scout run in and toss REs before anyone can stop him, and theirs no way I can warn my blueberry team. Scanner (which show R.Es) only work in squads, and you can't destroy it, because it may kill the blues. It's a lose lose. You just get to sit there and watch your blues die.
PS. If theirs a safe way to disarm remotes, I'd like to know about it. I think a locus grenade will disarm them, but I'm not sure if they just fizzle out or go with a bang. Anyways, I don't see a problem with remotes being thrown. it sucks to get killed by one, but then again, in order for that to happen a scout has to get pretty close to you, and at that point, you would already be dead if the scout had a shotgun or nova knives.
Ah we can all go home now.
This thing just beat dust ladies and gents.
Be vigilant!, for there are those that remove the teabag BEFORE adding milk!.
This is unacceptable!.
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
3090
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Posted - 2014.07.20 10:32:00 -
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Atiim wrote:That's odd. I've never seen him run his Sentinel in PUBs.
You realy think a logi would whine about RE's with such zeal.
They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank!
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1167
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Posted - 2014.07.20 10:32:00 -
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Will Driver wrote:I agree they should not be able to be tossed like silent grenades.
Well they are not silent.
They only sound exactly like the same as any deployed equipment so EQ spam nests are particularly vulnerable.
People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1167
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Posted - 2014.07.20 10:34:00 -
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J4yne C0bb wrote:Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:RE's are ok. Just rework the animation.
It's annoying looking up the stairs to see a player place it at his feet at the top but then blow everyone to smithereens when it was actually chucked to the bottom. Yeah, this is crap. REs should not be throwable, not in the manner they are now. If you want to equip throwable explosives, there is a name for those. They are called grenades. If you want to keep your frisbee REs, then fine. Make them visible like grenades and all other pieces of enemy equipment on the battlefield -- outlined in red for all to see.
Hold your horses. Without some throw distance it is virtually impossible to set REs on a tank - and if throwing goes so does one method of AV.
Grenades ARE different.
People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
874
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Posted - 2014.07.20 10:35:00 -
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Yokal Bob wrote:Please stop these things from been thrown already
Melee range explosives? Are you high, or just incredibly stupid?
http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU
Dust to Dust
Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1167
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Posted - 2014.07.20 10:41:00 -
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Zelda Harkinian wrote:Dauth Jenkins wrote:I'm annoyed when my team is camped in a building (due to the other team pushing us back to it) and then having a 5k mlt scout run in and toss REs before anyone can stop him, and theirs no way I can warn my blueberry team. Scanner (which show R.Es) only work in squads, and you can't destroy it, because it may kill the blues. It's a lose lose. You just get to sit there and watch your blues die.
PS. If theirs a safe way to disarm remotes, I'd like to know about it. I think a locus grenade will disarm them, but I'm not sure if they just fizzle out or go with a bang. Anyways, I don't see a problem with remotes being thrown. it sucks to get killed by one, but then again, in order for that to happen a scout has to get pretty close to you, and at that point, you would already be dead if the scout had a shotgun or nova knives.
Any weapon will make it go bang. There is no unexplosive way of disarming a RE - maybe CCP could have a look at that? (...hacking it out? ...Flux to disable it without explo?)
Anyways, my suggestion of improving the timer improves the time to kill the said scout before he gets to detonate. Any extra time gives better options to shoot the RE safely, especially if the user was killed.
Of course it's not a 100% SURE way of not getting RE'd like that - but we are not looking for that rather than a more balanced gameplay where both can happen.
People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
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pegasis prime
PROTO WOLVES
1803
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Posted - 2014.07.20 12:13:00 -
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Yokal Bob wrote:Please stop these things from been thrown already
Look out killer Frisbee .
Proud Gunlogi pilot and forge gunner since August 2012.
I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
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Sgt Buttscratch
Crux Special Tasks Group
2145
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Posted - 2014.07.20 12:25:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Atiim wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote: IT has like 1mts range.
All Remote Explosives have a 5m range. Though I'm not advocating a nerf to REs however, as it's the only counter to 1200 eHP Sentinels being spammed inside an enclosed area.. Not to mention that they already appear on Active Scanners. s for nerfing activation time, this could be a nerf to AV if you use the PLC-RE tactic, as nerfing the activation time can give a pilot enough time to activate a Shield Booster, which will cause it's shields to fully recharge, in-turn negating the incoming alpha damage needed to OHK. i meant, throwing range. .. not quite.... I can launch em
Give me my scrambler pistol back....**
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
3091
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Posted - 2014.07.20 14:38:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Atiim wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote: IT has like 1mts range.
All Remote Explosives have a 5m range. Though I'm not advocating a nerf to REs however, as it's the only counter to 1200 eHP Sentinels being spammed inside an enclosed area.. Not to mention that they already appear on Active Scanners. s for nerfing activation time, this could be a nerf to AV if you use the PLC-RE tactic, as nerfing the activation time can give a pilot enough time to activate a Shield Booster, which will cause it's shields to fully recharge, in-turn negating the incoming alpha damage needed to OHK. i meant, throwing range. .. not quite.... I can launch em
Yeah by doing a running jumo first, congrats for using physics and not whining about it.
They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank!
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1595
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Posted - 2014.07.20 14:42:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Eh, so REs are the next subject on GD's plate to nerf? What else can we throw on that lovely tray of nerf what annoys? SCOUNTS!!!!!!! NURF SCOUUUUUUUUNNTTTSSS!
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1527
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Posted - 2014.07.20 15:55:00 -
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I'm still debating with myself about the throw range. Sure, it is great for clearning rooms filled with sentinels and for getting RE on to tanks but does it really make the game more fun for everyone? I don't know. I don't particularly like that I can throw one 10m though it does make me chuckle every time.
There needs to be a middle ground struck between the frisbee mechanic we currently have and a more traditional "place the claymore" mechanic that so many are calling for.
Perhaps changing how damage is applied based upon how it is deployed?
Fun > Realism
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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game Dark Taboo
323
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Posted - 2014.07.20 16:35:00 -
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Comparing re's to grenade tossing range wise is just silly 1-5 feet and 5 feet is caused because moving forward and tossing effect
And then there are scans.
Caldari Loyalist
I speak for the rabbits
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