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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.17 00:56:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:.....To put Alternate Proto weapons down to the regular version's ISK price.
Paying 30k MORE for a generally WORSE version of the regular weapon just doesn't make any sense. These alternate versions of Proto weapons are not superior and there by the ISK increase is not needed.
Regular AR > Breach/TAC/Brst Regular RR > Assault RR Regular SCR > ASCR Regular CR >(barely) Assault CR
Etc...
77 for a CreoDon Breach AR compared to a 40k Duvolle? Please.
same for RR? WTH?
Its time to even the prices. 40k+ is enough for a prototype weapon or just set them all at 50k.
discuss/comment/whatevs.... i agree completely looks at the assault swarm launcher
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.17 11:19:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:A dirt cheap Assault Forge Gun, eh? The assault FG is the only exception to the rule. Its the only 'Alt' Variant that is ''superior'' to the regular version. I say ''superior'' since its not a fact.ITs just perception.
For example , i never was able to hit squat s*** with the Assault FG yet i was a powerful Fgunner with the Breach/Regular variant.
And STILL, there is not reason why the Assault FG should cost more than the Regular one.
The heavy will be a 1000-1600 EHP, Visible to ALL on their radars and pretty damn squishy compared to a tanks' firepower.
100% counter-able.
Worst case scenario,leave the AFG with its current price, but there is no reason why all Infantry should pay because of 1 Sentinel Weapon. personally the assault suits my play style more but superior is definitely a thing of perception on that one.
lets looks at assault variants...and see how many of them are prefered over stnd or breach
assault swarm...lols no one uses this piece of **** assault scr...vastly underestimated by most..but still not preferred over the stnd by most amarrians assault forge (youll actually see this one..but is it better? as we discussed no) assault rr...ive seen this one a bit more lately..but it doesnt seem stronger than its brother the god gun......yet it costs more? assault smg( finally we come upon the only assault variant that i am fond of) tbh the only assault variants i see in use would be the assault smg and the assault combat rifle.
there is no reason for them to be so expensive...did you know the assault swarm was once over 100k to restock just 1?...it has still never been usefull
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
sometimes i run weak guns just to make pubstomping more of a challenge
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.17 11:21:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:True Adamance wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:True Adamance wrote: Your inference of my blasphemy is mistaken. You forget to whom you speak.
Significantly Suppressive fire power and a decent 100+ rounds before over heat that melts anything I don't like out to 50m.
''Significantly Suppressive fire power and a decent 100+ rounds before over heat that melts anything I don't like out to 50m.''You waste your money considering the SCR doesnt even NEED re-supply nor reloading between engagements like the ASCR does and Can do the same at 50+mts with less shots. You have proven me you liek the weapon and look at its good points. Still, you havnt proven why the ASCR deserves a 30k difference price. Cause if it didn't my Ak.0 Commando wouldn't cap past 250K ISK per suit thats actually good. he is right though true the stnd scr is far superior to the assault
not to say i didnt just go 41/0 with the adv ascr on my logi...but who knows what kind of scruberries i was fighting
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
sometimes i run weak guns just to make pubstomping more of a challenge
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.18 11:54:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:True Adamance wrote: I debate you saying the AScR us inferior to the ScR.................
It is though. Nearly double the damage per shot and can fire as fast as you can tap the trigger. Don't even get me started with the ridiculous recoil they have(It's the only gun in the game that you actually have to fight).The AScR is only good for hitting a bunch of reds to rack up assists ide like to note that the recoil isnt actually recoil at all but a graphic effect that does NOT effect accuracy...but i still say the ascr is weakest of the two.
thats like the difference between assault rr and rr...why use assault? you can take the standard (long range rr to the same assault ranges..and outperform the assault rr...
same can be said for scr over ascr swarms over assault swarms
...and i dont really think in the case of the rifles at least lowering the alternate variants..will bring them back. we may see more just because they are affordable..but it still wont make the assault variants viable within their fields..wont stop the stnd variants from out performing assault variants...oh ccp going in and fixing the issues with the variants that are useless
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
sometimes i run weak guns just to make pubstomping more of a challenge
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