Nah, doesn't solve it and ruins the gameplay I enjoy seeing. However, what if frames had drawbacks for using certain weapons? I mean it could be a variety of things, ammo penalty, speed penalty, CPU/PG consumption, increased recoil, etc.

No.

Freedom of choice is what makes this game special.

Since the fateful day Dust was beaten behind the woodshed, I've been trying different FPSs to see what I might like. Mostly things I can get into for free, and since Dust was my first real FPS experience, I base everything off that.

I absolutely HATE that most FPS games progress the character for me. Get X kills, get Y prize. What if I don't want that type of gun, or that scope? Doesn't matter, everything you've done only affords you these 2 weapons, this scope, and that equipment.

Not so here.

The ability to think outside of the box, to show the DEVs you thought of something they didn't intend, that you essentially created an entirely new style of gameplay in the sandbox... well... that's what I find myself missing in Battlefield, or Planetside, or Call of Duty. There is just no parallel to Dust when it comes down to that aspect of the game. It stems from the same style that hooked me to EVE 8 years ago, and is the same reason I couldn't play Diablo 3 for more than one play through, no variety in characters.

Sure, there's some FOTM stuff that happens once someone gets a great idea and others adopt it, but there's always a counter too.

Except CCP has basically admitted that it was a bad idea(somewhat) by only allowing heavies to run heavy weapons in Legion and straight up merging the commando and assault class.

The fanfest presentation isn't anything to go by at this point. It was a technical "look what we did" presentation. There's been a planets worth of hate, bile, and some decent discussion about legion but nothing, I repeat NOTHING, has been set in stone yet. It's all conjecture at this point.

If CCP decides to limit classes and weapons, I would fight against it. I love it when a heavy fits a light weapon, it's stupid, but if he wants to gimp his DPS for range, it's his choice.

Except CCP has basically admitted that it was a bad idea(somewhat) by only allowing heavies to run heavy weapons in Legion and straight up merging the commando and assault class.

Lead with a carrot, not a stick.

I would rather see Assault frames getting a substantial buff to rifle usage if that is what we really want to see. We should always strive to follow EVE's mentality of suits/ships receiving bonuses to usage instead of penalties to usage. Even if it requires a global nerf to rifles like what happened with equipment, its the far better path to take.

However, what should a scout be using other than rifles? A shotgun? A mass driver? Only Sidearms? I feel like the weapon selection in Dust is not substantial enough to be seriously limiting people's ability to use certain weapons.



i never got the impression that it was 'heavies with light weapons' that caused the removal of the commando, but more of the fact that the commando an assault class are competing for the same role. Its more of a removal of redundancy than anything else.

I'm an assault player and I like your idea but only if we had more scout weapons.. That'd be the same as limiting heavies to only heavy weapons and logis to only sidearms so I have to disagree until there are more class oriented weapons.

Fine-Scouts can't use rifles if heavy's lose their sidearm

Fair's fair

Unfortunately, I don't see that happening anytime soon(or maybe even at all)

Dropping the assault rifles from the scout class may actually give people a reason to use a assault over scout.

Maybe the CBR. But I don't want dust losing what little diversity it has. I mean the only rifle that's a problem with scouts is the CBR or has it changed recently? Haven't been on in a month.

I'm not sure I like weapon restrictions, per se. As others have said, it's part of what makes Dust special.

However, I do see the logic behind doing something like slowing down scouts that choose to use the more powerful weapons in order to achieve better balance.

Hopefully Charlie will help with the balance issues and the resulting lack of diversity amongst slayers and we'll see more Assault suits, but if not, this is something that might be considered (that is, if it's possible given the limited development being done on this platform).

I could see slowing down scouts that equip regular plates, but not for carrying rifles or other light weapons.

Nah, doesn't solve it and ruins the gameplay I enjoy seeing. However, what if frames had drawbacks for using certain weapons? I mean it could be a variety of things, ammo penalty, speed penalty, CPU/PG consumption, increased recoil, etc.

It seems a lot of the problems we have now stem from letting every suit whatever wants, and out performing other suits in they're indented roles.

So what if Scouts couldn't use rifles?(excluding the laser and sniper) Wouldn't that solve a lot of the problems we have now?

I think the idea could be expanded somewhat and maybe applied to the sentinel in the same fashion(only blocking the use of Assault rifles of all races) but I don't think that would be needed right now(especially with the limited heavy weapon pool)

A scout sneaking up on you with a shotgun and blowing your brains out is working as intended. A scout de-cloaking in front of you and murdering you with a Proto ScR/ACR/ is not working as intended.

It seems a lot of the problems we have now stem from letting every suit whatever wants, and out performing other suits in they're indented roles.

So what if Scouts couldn't use rifles?(excluding the laser and sniper) Wouldn't that solve a lot of the problems we have now?

I think the idea could be expanded somewhat and maybe applied to the sentinel in the same fashion(only blocking the use of Assault rifles of all races) but I don't think that would be needed right now(especially with the limited heavy weapon pool)

A scout sneaking up on you with a shotgun and blowing your brains out is working as intended. A scout de-cloaking in front of you and murdering you with a Proto ScR/ACR/ is not working as intended.