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Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.16 17:03:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:1.) Amarr scout gives up nothing to fit 2 precision mods (it's tank is in it's lows).
2.) Putting two complex precision mods on a caldari scout made it weak (tank wise) with max of 310 shields.
3.) Caldari scout is better suited for scanning because of 4 highs
4.) Most Caldari scouts I ran into ran 1 complex precision. Caldari scout has to give up tank for precision while Amarr scout doesn't. If Precision goes to Amarr scout, it's gonna be harder to get under because they all will be running two precisions because their is no drawback for them.
5.) There will be no counter to scouts with two complex damps and an ADV cloak because Amarr would only be able to fit two complex precision
6.) Many people specced into Caldari scout for precision and nothing else.
7.) with two complex precision mods currently, amarr scout can get down to 23 Scan DB which is pretty good especailly since there is no draw backs and range would make that 23 DB so much better.
8.) Trust me, I'm an expert.
Caldari is OP with Precision....It has great Assault capabilities AND it has two great EWAR advantages (Precision and Range). So don't tell people Caldari should stay the same, just because you skilled into the FOTM. That's your fault. And there is a drawback, running plates decreases movement speed and with no shields, it won't be hard to kill Amarr scouts with CR/SMG etc.
And that last statement is a 100% guarantee of why we shouldn't trust you. This better be a troll post lol.
"One does not simply" run like a Raptor. Only mk.0 Scouts do ... wait... I'm still outclassed by Gal scouts.
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Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.16 17:36:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:
The Amarr sacrifices almost nothing to be a good scanner ...
According to the proposed slot layouts, he'll have to run a prototype suit to scan dampened Scouts ... that counts as a sacrifice, right?
He also gives up shield HP, relying on armor tanking, which again forces that scout to lose movement speed making it easier to kill in some ways.
"One does not simply" run like a Raptor. Only mk.0 Scouts do ... wait... I'm still outclassed by Gal scouts.
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Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.16 17:39:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Bormir1r wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:1.) Amarr scout gives up nothing to fit 2 precision mods (it's tank is in it's lows).
2.) Putting two complex precision mods on a caldari scout made it weak (tank wise) with max of 310 shields.
3.) Caldari scout is better suited for scanning because of 4 highs
4.) Most Caldari scouts I ran into ran 1 complex precision. Caldari scout has to give up tank for precision while Amarr scout doesn't. If Precision goes to Amarr scout, it's gonna be harder to get under because they all will be running two precisions because their is no drawback for them.
5.) There will be no counter to scouts with two complex damps and an ADV cloak because Amarr would only be able to fit two complex precision
6.) Many people specced into Caldari scout for precision and nothing else.
7.) with two complex precision mods currently, amarr scout can get down to 23 Scan DB which is pretty good especailly since there is no draw backs and range would make that 23 DB so much better.
8.) Trust me, I'm an expert. Caldari is OP with Precision....It has great Assault capabilities AND it has two great EWAR advantages (Precision and Range). So don't tell people Caldari should stay the same, just because you skilled into the FOTM. That's your fault. And there is a drawback, running plates decreases movement speed and with no shields, it won't be hard to kill Amarr scouts with CR/SMG etc. And that last statement is a 100% guarantee of why we shouldn't trust you. This better be a troll post lol. Holy crap ad hominem. I decided to skill into the Cal scout as soon as I heard it was being released because of several reasons: its bonus, shield regen, and the possibility of pilot suits becoming a reality (I'm a shield vehicle specialist). None of my suits ever went over 350ehp. Caldari was not OP with precision. It served as a great counter to scout abuse and was kept in check by low ehp and Gal scouts (not to mention that every scout could get under the typical FotM assault Cal scout they uses 2 prec enh).
You're serious right? FOTM Cal Scouts ran 2-4 Prec. Enh...Only gal scouts could get under that stuff without risking viability problems, Min and Amarr scout were completely screwed by this. Cal scouts essentially only allowed Gal scouts to play viably.
"One does not simply" run like a Raptor. Only mk.0 Scouts do ... wait... I'm still outclassed by Gal scouts.
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