|
|
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 2 post(s) |
Temias Mercurial
Knights Of Ender
RISE of LEGION
117
   |
Posted - 2014.07.16 07:26:00 -
[1] - Quote
taxi bastard wrote:i agree that it would be a good move, but my biggest issue is swarm speed.
even with max unlock time the speed of the dropships with afterburners means they can even miss the second volley simply by outrunning them.
The problem is that dropships simply can't take damage, as they are terribly weak, and afterburners are the only viable way to avoid anything... without them, a pilot is guaranteeing themselves for creating a spectacle of a flaming ball of fire in the sky, and they're in the damn thing...
My apologies if I come off as an elitist, but I try to view things objectively, logically, and factually.
|
Temias Mercurial
Knights Of Ender
RISE of LEGION
124
|
Posted - 2014.07.18 04:06:00 -
[2] - Quote
Baal Omniscient wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Atiim wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:
Why should a single player who refuses to skill into AV be a persistent threat all by himself to a vehicle player who is very likely fully skilled into vehicles?
Why can't he bring one other player who refuses to skill into AV to compensate for his decision to not skill into AV?
At no point in time should any weapon of any tier be ineffective within it's niche that equipping it does more harm than good. Making vehicles "near-immune" to lower tiered Swarms is also carcinogenic to the new player experience. Though even if the weapon itself is good, it's up to the player to make good use of it. If the Pilot is truly skilled, then they'll have no problem defeating the AVer. Investment Gëá Victory DUST Fiend wrote:Especially considering that the weapon requires no aim. Swarm Launchers already make sacrifices for their guidance capabilities, so this is yet again, null. If there was any way to avoid swarms other than running away, I would be inclined to agree with you. Giving every single player on the field access to effortless AV that is threatening at all tiers (low tier swarms ARE threatening when not solo, wow, who knew) ensures that all we ever do is run away with the occasional fly by to steal a kill. And, of course, it further reduces the desire to fit blasters or rails since sitting still in an incubus on a field full of AV is certain death, especially with your asinine suggestion of adding a couple hundred shield HP at the expense of my armor tank and an AB. Your wisdom pours down upon me like a waterfall from the heavens. I truly feel that an additional high slot to the Incubus and an additional low for the Python (coinciding with a suitable pg/cpu bump) would help with this. Armor ADS's could toss on a shield booster to give themselves their small amount of shields back to buffer them v swarms or toss on an extender to give them a buffer before their armor is breached without loosing their afterburner slot, and Pythons would have an additional low for an armor rep or an extra pg/cpu upgrade. I'm not sure the buff for the Python is 100% called for, but I truly feel that the Incubus should have at least 2 highs. It's fitting options are far too limited without it. Side-note: If it were possible, I would have preferred the after burner to be built-in and a module option made available that increases it's effectiveness instead of having the current system. The afterburner is far too vital to an ADS's functionality as things currently stand.
To do that, we need about 50-60% more pg and cpu, with that extra slot. Currently, everything just barely fits...
My apologies if I come off as an elitist, but I try to view things objectively, logically, and factually.
|
Temias Mercurial
Knights Of Ender
RISE of LEGION
124
|
Posted - 2014.07.18 07:46:00 -
[3] - Quote
Baal Omniscient wrote:Temias Mercurial wrote:To do that, we need about 50-60% more pg and cpu, with that extra slot. Currently, everything just barely fits...
Things are supposed to just barely fit. That's the idea, sacrificing some things to fit others. It's the same for everything else in the game with only a few exceptions. No way on earth ADS pilots would get a 50-60% PG/CPU bump, that's an inane request.
Having another slot would be useless when you literally could not fit anything else in it. By the way, the 50-60% CPU/PG increase are just estimates, but without more cpu/pg you could not fit a booster as you stated previously... not even with a complex pg extender.
The Incubus use to have 2high and 4Low, which was marvelous and balanced (not OP) when you could fit what you wanted and needed with the old module cpu/pg values, you would still get eaten alive by AV thought, but ever since they did the vehicle overhaul in 1.7 and "buffed" the ADS, they have been terrible ever since.
I'm serious though... you could not fit anything in that extra slot without more cpu and pg that is not provided through the respective modules. You can not sacrifice module slots with an ADS. Doing so is butchering your thin line of life and death as a pilot.
My apologies if I come off as an elitist, but I try to view things objectively, logically, and factually.
|
Temias Mercurial
Knights Of Ender
RISE of LEGION
124
|
Posted - 2014.07.18 08:07:00 -
[4] - Quote
Baal Omniscient wrote:Temias Mercurial wrote:Baal Omniscient wrote:Temias Mercurial wrote:To do that, we need about 50-60% more pg and cpu, with that extra slot. Currently, everything just barely fits...
Things are supposed to just barely fit. That's the idea, sacrificing some things to fit others. It's the same for everything else in the game with only a few exceptions. No way on earth ADS pilots would get a 50-60% PG/CPU bump, that's an inane request. Having another slot would be useless when you literally could not fit anything else in it. By the way, the 50-60% CPU/PG increase are just estimates, but without more cpu/pg you could not fit a booster as you stated previously... not even with a complex pg extender. The Incubus use to have 2high and 4Low, which was marvelous and balanced (not OP) when you could fit what you wanted and needed with the old module cpu/pg values, you would still get eaten alive by AV thought, but ever since they did the vehicle overhaul in 1.7 and "buffed" the ADS, they have been terrible ever since. I'm serious though... you could not fit anything in that extra slot without more cpu and pg that is not provided through the respective modules. You can not sacrifice module slots with an ADS. Doing so is butchering your thin line of life and death as a pilot. I.... DID sorta specifically say "with a suitable pg/cpu bump" in that post....
That 'suitable pg/cpu bump' will need to be a value of 40-60% increase if you want to stay alive from getting hit by AV with a decent fit... as I said before, you can not simply sacrifice modules with an ADS if you want to keep it. I mean no disrespect.
My apologies if I come off as an elitist, but I try to view things objectively, logically, and factually.
|
|
|
| |
|