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Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.15 16:13:00 -
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I was going to write a nice, long intro but decided to delete it and get straight to the point: Can everyone that voted for the CPM election be rewarded with 3 of each of the new officer weapons that are going to come out of this event?
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
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Kallas Hallytyr
Skullbreakers
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Posted - 2014.07.15 16:18:00 -
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I'd get behind that.
Alt of Halla Murr.
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Malkai Inos
Any Given Day
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Posted - 2014.07.15 16:21:00 -
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Neat idea to boost voter turnout. The question is whether these votes are actually beneficial to the process.
Completely random votes or people who just go with the first candidates listed because they don't really care might just be adding noise or even distort the outcome unduly.
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Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.15 16:26:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:Neat idea to boost voter turnout. The question is whether these votes are actually beneficial to the process.
Completely random votes or people who just go with the first candidates listed because they don't really care might just be adding noise or even distort the outcome unduly. That is a good point.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.07.15 22:27:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:Neat idea to boost voter turnout. The question is whether these votes are actually beneficial to the process.
Completely random votes or people who just go with the first candidates listed because they don't really care might just be adding noise or even distort the outcome unduly. That is a good point.
Well the list should randomize so different people are at the top every time you load the page. However I do worry about people not doing any research at all and just picking whatever name looks familiar rather than actually knowing the person they're voting for.
Its kinda tough to say which is worse, not voting at all? Or voting and having no idea who you're really voting for?
Like my ideas?
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Boot Booter
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.07.15 22:30:00 -
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Yeah as much as I'd like to get some free officer weapons this would make people vote just to vote, leaving a inaccurate representation of who the most popular candidate is.
What happened to the repair tool glow?
Why won't CCP answer?
Conspiracy?
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Malkai Inos
Any Given Day
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Posted - 2014.07.15 22:51:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:Neat idea to boost voter turnout. The question is whether these votes are actually beneficial to the process.
Completely random votes or people who just go with the first candidates listed because they don't really care might just be adding noise or even distort the outcome unduly. That is a good point. Well the list should randomize so different people are at the top every time you load the page. However I do worry about people not doing any research at all and just picking whatever name looks familiar rather than actually knowing the person they're voting for. Its kinda tough to say which is worse, not voting at all? Or voting and having no idea who you're really voting for? Exactly, and I'd say both are inherently undesirable.
To motivate players not only to vote but to inform their voting decision, what I would like to see is a trimmed down vote match system built into the voting page. CCP, CPM and the engaged community select ten questions to be answered by each candidate in 200 words or less.
Upon log in, each voter is presented the list of questions and instead of answering them selects the three (or more, if he desires) that interest him/her the most. He/her is then presented the answers of each candidate and can mark the answers he agrees with.
In the next step the ten most fitting candidates are displayed and the voter can either chose to read up the other answers if needed or cast his/her seven votes on the spot.
This method would still be far from providing comprehensive insight into each candidate, but it should improve the quality of the votes dramatically.
With something like that in place, compensating voters for their efforts with officer gear seems fine. You'll still have people clicking through the process without a second thought but they at least had the chance to inform themselves without digging through the forums and 3rd party services.
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Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.15 23:01:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:Neat idea to boost voter turnout. The question is whether these votes are actually beneficial to the process.
Completely random votes or people who just go with the first candidates listed because they don't really care might just be adding noise or even distort the outcome unduly. That is a good point. Well the list should randomize so different people are at the top every time you load the page. However I do worry about people not doing any research at all and just picking whatever name looks familiar rather than actually knowing the person they're voting for. Its kinda tough to say which is worse, not voting at all? Or voting and having no idea who you're really voting for? Exactly, and I'd say both are inherently undesirable. To motivate players not only to vote but to inform their voting decision, what I would like to see is a trimmed down vote match system built into the voting page. CCP, CPM and the engaged community select ten questions to be answered by each candidate in 200 words or less. Upon log in, each voter is presented the list of questions and instead of answering them selects the three (or more, if he desires) that interest him/her the most. He/her is then presented the answers of each candidate and can mark the answers he agrees with. In the next step the ten most fitting candidates are displayed and the voter can either chose to read up the other answers if needed or cast his/her seven votes on the spot. This method would still be far from providing comprehensive insight into each candidate, but it should improve the quality of the votes dramatically. With something like that in place, compensating voters for their efforts with officer gear seems fine. You'll still have people clicking through the process without a second thought but they at least had the chance to inform themselves without digging through the forums and 3rd party services.
heh, actually having to use votematch to vote sounds appropriate.
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Malkai Inos
Any Given Day
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Posted - 2014.07.15 23:04:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:heh, actually having to use votematch to vote sounds appropriate. ikr
I actually like the vote match system we have right now. It's just that it's not accessible and integrated enough for the majority of players, whom would rather do something else, to deal with.
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Will Driver
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.07.16 00:32:00 -
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Voting should be it's own reward. I hate it when people ask something for nothing. If you want new officer weapons, go out an earn them.
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Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.16 00:43:00 -
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Will Driver wrote:Voting should be it's own reward. I hate it when people ask something for nothing. If you want new officer weapons, go out an earn them. The op is suggesting this to improve turnout, not so he can get rewarded for voting. |
Malkai Inos
Any Given Day
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Posted - 2014.07.16 00:49:00 -
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Will Driver wrote:Voting should be it's own reward. I hate it when people ask something for nothing. If you want new officer weapons, go out an earn them. It should. But for most it quite simply isn't.
I expect relative voter turnout of active players to hardly break the double digits. This is horrible for any democratic process as it benefits entrenched groups with specific interests the most.
The lower turnout is, the easier it is for fringe groups to push one sided agendas. Therefore CCP, other candidates and the community at large stand to benefit from improving it as much as possible.
If a bunch of one use items achieves that, while maintaining reasonable voting quality, then that's a good thing.
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