DUST Search - New ScR please.

Atiim wrote:

Leeroy Gannarsein wrote:

Because it's better than filthy Minmatar tech

Not really.

The Projectile Weaponry Profile makes it much more practical to use than a Scrambler Rifle, and when you combine that with the fact that it's also a Mid-Range weapon (like the SCR) the argument about which Conventional Rifle is the best goes to the Combat Rifle without question.

A Valid comparison between the Laser Rifle and Mass Driver (both niche weapons) can't be made as they both have different niches (that would be like comparing a Sniper Rifle to a Plasma Cannon). However, since they're both very good at performing their niches, the argument about which is truly better is one of personal preference.

As for which is Equipment is the best (Drop Uplink vs Remote Explosive). see above. In terms of functionality, the Scrambler Pistol is better than the Flaylock Pistol, that is easy to admit. However, Amarrians don't have a Grenade or SMG, so the Matari wins those sections by default.

TL;DR:

Best Conventional Rifle: Matari
Best Niche Weapon: Tie
Best Equipment: Tie
Best Pistol: Amarr
Best Grenade: Matari by default
Best SMG: Matari by default

If you only use Pistols, then I guess you could claim that.

"Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon

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Fizzer94 Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2906	Posted - 2014.07.15 01:19:00 - [1] - Quote I've had a topic concerning this for awhile now in Features and Idea Discussions, but I feel it just wasn't getting enough publicity there. So I'm going to run the idea past everyone in GD. I present, Breach Scrambler Rifles. The overall idea is to make a rifle that feels as much like the Chromosome -1.7 Scrambler Pistol as it possibly can, but still feel and function like a rifle at the same time. Anyhow, on with the presented stats! VRD-02 Breach Scrambler Rifle: Damage - 84 RoF - 450 Optimal Range(100%) - 60m Effective Range(30%) - 80m Absolute Range(10%) - 175m Magazine Size - 16 Carried Ammo - 96 Reload Speed - 2.0 Seconds. Headshot Multiplier - 375% Accuracy Rating - (whatever the ScP had, those numbers are undecipherable) Rounds until overheat - 11 Feedback damage - 50 CPU - 53 PG - 14 ISK - 17,625 Viziam Breach Scrambler Rifle: Damage - 88 RoF - 450 Optimal Range(100%) - 63m Effective Range(30%) - 84m Absolute Range(10%) - 175m Magazine Size - 16 Carried Ammo - 96 Reload Speed - 2.0 Seconds. Headshot Multiplier - 375% Accuracy Rating - (whatever the ScP had, those numbers are undecipherable) Rounds until overheat - 11 Feedback damage - 50 CPU - 92 PG - 20 ISK - 77,280 Compared to the old ScP: +Range +Fitting Cost +ISK Price +It Overheats +Larger Magazine +More Carried Ammunition My best match on Dust, 23/6/4 Placon. Please unnerf ScPs and fix IoPs...
Bojo The Mighty Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno 4189	Posted - 2014.07.15 01:20:00 - [2] - Quote You've presented this numerous times and you forgot "Golden Hand Lamp" in your introduction this time Smell the burning flesh. Taste the tangy sulfur air. Volcano Season - Moltar's Haiku : SGC2C
Fizzer94 Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2906	Posted - 2014.07.15 01:24:00 - [3] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: You've presented this numerous times and you forgot "Golden Hand Lamp" in your introduction this time I've only presented it once before. I just kept bumping it. I can add the Golden Hand Lamp part if you want... My best match on Dust, 23/6/4 Placon. Please unnerf ScPs and fix IoPs...
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6532	Posted - 2014.07.15 01:26:00 - [4] - Quote All weapons in the same tier have the same amount of ranges now. so the Ranges on your purposed weapons would have to be the same. see you space cowboy...
Fizzer94 Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2906	Posted - 2014.07.15 01:28:00 - [5] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: All weapons in the same tier have the same amount of ranges now. so the Ranges on your purposed weapons would have to be the same. I forgot about that change. I'll update the stats. My best match on Dust, 23/6/4 Placon. Please unnerf ScPs and fix IoPs...
Yeeeuuuupppp uptown456 Dark Taboo 464	Posted - 2014.07.15 02:08:00 - [6] - Quote I'd rather have that than the noob assault scrambler Rage Proficiency V Mic status: Muted Storage Wars Champion.
Atiim Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire. 10491	Posted - 2014.07.15 02:12:00 - [7] - Quote I'd love to see this. Hopefully it could help make up for the fact that the Amarr only has 3 weapons. The Snack That Smiles Back, Tankers! -HAND
Lynn Beck Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire. 2043	Posted - 2014.07.15 02:14:00 - [8] - Quote 'Burst' SCR! Then again... I'm a minmatar who enjoys using Laser Tech for some ungodly(or godly?) reason. General John Ripper -BAM! I'm Emeril Lagasse. This message was approved by the 'Nobody Loved You' Foundation
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 3781	Posted - 2014.07.15 02:22:00 - [9] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: 'Burst' SCR! Then again... I'm a minmatar who enjoys using Laser Tech for some ungodly(or godly?) reason. Because it's awesome (The godfather of tactical logistics)
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution 1044	Posted - 2014.07.15 02:35:00 - [10] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: 'Burst' SCR! Then again... I'm a minmatar who enjoys using Laser Tech for some ungodly(or godly?) reason. Because it's awesome Because it's gold Amarrica! Destiny Beta SoonGäó

LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2960	Posted - 2014.07.15 03:59:00 - [11] - Quote I saw there were no likes to your opening post, so I liked it. May I have a like in return? I'm almost level three.
Xmar Handfelid GERO TECH INC. 32	Posted - 2014.07.15 04:12:00 - [12] - Quote Seems like a good idea for a new scr. "If you thought my vizsam lazer rifle wasn`t enough just look at my scrambler rifle on my commando." -Xmar Handfeild
Leeroy Gannarsein Legio DXIV 464	Posted - 2014.07.15 04:25:00 - [13] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: 'Burst' SCR! Then again... I'm a minmatar who enjoys using Laser Tech for some ungodly(or godly?) reason. Because it's awesome Because it's gold Because it's better than filthy Minmatar tech It would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart... CCP BLOWOUT FOR CPM1
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11854	Posted - 2014.07.15 04:26:00 - [14] - Quote Leeroy Gannarsein wrote: THUNDERGROOVE wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: 'Burst' SCR! Then again... I'm a minmatar who enjoys using Laser Tech for some ungodly(or godly?) reason. Because it's awesome Because it's gold Because it's better than filthy Minmatar tech Because we're better than filthy Minmatar! "Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
Satja Askarin Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 25	Posted - 2014.07.15 04:26:00 - [15] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Leeroy Gannarsein wrote: THUNDERGROOVE wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: 'Burst' SCR! Then again... I'm a minmatar who enjoys using Laser Tech for some ungodly(or godly?) reason. Because it's awesome Because it's gold Because it's better than filthy Minmatar tech Because we're better than filthy Minmatar! That was uncalled for sir.
Leeroy Gannarsein Legio DXIV 465	Posted - 2014.07.15 04:33:00 - [16] - Quote Satja Askarin wrote: True Adamance wrote: Leeroy Gannarsein wrote: THUNDERGROOVE wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Because it's awesome Because it's gold Because it's better than filthy Minmatar tech Because we're better than filthy Minmatar! That was uncalled for sir. GET BACK IN YOUR PEN It would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart... CCP BLOWOUT FOR CPM1
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11855	Posted - 2014.07.15 04:35:00 - [17] - Quote Leeroy Gannarsein wrote: GET BACK IN YOUR PEN Lower you voice Lorhak.....now! "Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
Leeroy Gannarsein Legio DXIV 465	Posted - 2014.07.15 04:38:00 - [18] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Leeroy Gannarsein wrote: GET BACK IN YOUR PEN Lower you voice Lorhak.....now! get back in your pen It would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart... CCP BLOWOUT FOR CPM1
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11856	Posted - 2014.07.15 04:41:00 - [19] - Quote Leeroy Gannarsein wrote: True Adamance wrote: Leeroy Gannarsein wrote: GET BACK IN YOUR PEN Lower you voice Lorhak.....now! get back in your pen Good one day I'll make a fine Amarrian out of you.... however I think you need more Vitoc.... "Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
Termin8ter The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 10	Posted - 2014.07.15 05:28:00 - [20] - Quote I run scrambler on a ammarr suit and this sounds like a great idea, and the stats are pretty good except id prefer if it had a little better damage per shot at proto. Maybe 90?

Baal Omniscient Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1945	Posted - 2014.07.15 05:42:00 - [21] - Quote Satja Askarin wrote: True Adamance wrote: Because we're better than filthy Minmatar! That was uncalled for sir. I'm afraid I'll have to agree.... Cross Atu for CPM1 Winmatar Assault, Proficiency 5 SMG's & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0
Satja Askarin Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 27	Posted - 2014.07.15 06:33:00 - [22] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: Satja Askarin wrote: True Adamance wrote: Because we're better than filthy Minmatar! That was uncalled for sir. I'm afraid I'll have to agree.... Don't you talk back to him.
Fizzer94 Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2913	Posted - 2014.07.15 14:48:00 - [23] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: I saw there were no likes to your opening post, so I liked it. May I have a like in return? I'm almost level three. Thank you! Here you go. hands out a shiny new like My best match on Dust, 23/6/4 Placon. Please unnerf ScPs and fix IoPs...
Zindorak CaUsE-4-CoNcErN 127	Posted - 2014.07.15 16:01:00 - [24] - Quote How about a burst ScR
Fizzer94 Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2915	Posted - 2014.07.15 16:03:00 - [25] - Quote Zindorak wrote: How about a burst ScR Do you want to collaborate and design one? My best match on Dust, 23/6/4 Placon. Please unnerf ScPs and fix IoPs...
Atiim Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire. 10501	Posted - 2014.07.15 16:17:00 - [26] - Quote Leeroy Gannarsein wrote: Because it's better than filthy Minmatar tech Not really. The Projectile Weaponry Profile makes it much more practical to use than a Scrambler Rifle, and when you combine that with the fact that it's also a Mid-Range weapon (like the SCR) the argument about which Conventional Rifle is the best goes to the Combat Rifle without question. A Valid comparison between the Laser Rifle and Mass Driver (both niche weapons) can't be made as they both have different niches (that would be like comparing a Sniper Rifle to a Plasma Cannon). However, since they're both very good at performing their niches, the argument about which is truly better is one of personal preference. As for which is Equipment is the best (Drop Uplink vs Remote Explosive). see above. In terms of functionality, the Scrambler Pistol is better than the Flaylock Pistol, that is easy to admit. However, Amarrians don't have a Grenade or SMG, so the Matari wins those sections by default. TL;DR: Best Conventional Rifle: Matari Best Niche Weapon: Tie Best Equipment: Tie Best Pistol: Amarr Best Grenade: Matari by default Best SMG: Matari by default If you only use Pistols, then I guess you could claim that. The Snack That Smiles Back, Tankers! -HAND
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11874	Posted - 2014.07.15 19:49:00 - [27] - Quote Atiim wrote: Leeroy Gannarsein wrote: Because it's better than filthy Minmatar tech Not really. The Projectile Weaponry Profile makes it much more practical to use than a Scrambler Rifle, and when you combine that with the fact that it's also a Mid-Range weapon (like the SCR) the argument about which Conventional Rifle is the best goes to the Combat Rifle without question. A Valid comparison between the Laser Rifle and Mass Driver (both niche weapons) can't be made as they both have different niches (that would be like comparing a Sniper Rifle to a Plasma Cannon). However, since they're both very good at performing their niches, the argument about which is truly better is one of personal preference. As for which is Equipment is the best (Drop Uplink vs Remote Explosive). see above. In terms of functionality, the Scrambler Pistol is better than the Flaylock Pistol, that is easy to admit. However, Amarrians don't have a Grenade or SMG, so the Matari wins those sections by default. TL;DR: Best Conventional Rifle: Matari Best Niche Weapon: Tie Best Equipment: Tie Best Pistol: Amarr Best Grenade: Matari by default Best SMG: Matari by default If you only use Pistols, then I guess you could claim that. Yeah it really highlights how shafted the Amarr were...... the content we do have is great and unique....but we lack.........far too much. "Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
Leeroy Gannarsein Legio DXIV 483	Posted - 2014.07.16 01:15:00 - [28] - Quote Atiim wrote: Leeroy Gannarsein wrote: Because it's better than filthy Minmatar tech Not really. The Projectile Weaponry Profile makes it much more practical to use than a Scrambler Rifle, and when you combine that with the fact that it's also a Mid-Range weapon (like the SCR) the argument about which Conventional Rifle is the best goes to the Combat Rifle without question. A Valid comparison between the Laser Rifle and Mass Driver (both niche weapons) can't be made as they both have different niches (that would be like comparing a Sniper Rifle to a Plasma Cannon). However, since they're both very good at performing their niches, the argument about which is truly better is one of personal preference. As for which is Equipment is the best (Drop Uplink vs Remote Explosive). see above. In terms of functionality, the Scrambler Pistol is better than the Flaylock Pistol, that is easy to admit. However, Amarrians don't have a Grenade or SMG, so the Matari wins those sections by default. TL;DR: Best Conventional Rifle: Matari Best Niche Weapon: Tie Best Equipment: Tie Best Pistol: Amarr Best Grenade: Matari by default Best SMG: Matari by default If you only use Pistols, then I guess you could claim that. You missed the most important category. Amarr gear is clean. It would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart... CCP BLOWOUT FOR CPM1
Zindorak CaUsE-4-CoNcErN 132	Posted - 2014.07.16 01:21:00 - [29] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Zindorak wrote: How about a burst ScR Do you want to collaborate and design one? My pleasure I would love to do something like that
Fizzer94 Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2922	Posted - 2014.07.16 01:23:00 - [30] - Quote Zindorak wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Zindorak wrote: How about a burst ScR Do you want to collaborate and design one? My pleasure I would love to do something like that Awesome! Do you have a Skype account so we can collaborate faster and without clogging the forums? My best match on Dust, 23/6/4 Placon. Please unnerf ScPs and fix IoPs...



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