DUST Search - Has Legion development stopped?

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

Soldner VonKuechle wrote:

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

Soldner VonKuechle wrote:

Soraya Xel wrote:

DUST's actually growing, technically.

As you said, don't hint at big things, and then... not deliver (that sounds nicer, doesn't it?) and that is what CCP is trying to avoid. By, you know, just not hinting at all. I find this as irritating as you do, because I think it's taking it a bit too far, but the point is, they learned that lesson. Maybe a bit too well. The current way CCP is doing things, is to say things once they can deliver.

From my personal view, it's good marketing to release tidbits periodically to maintain interest and demonstrate progress. I'd also definitely like CCP to commit to certain investments being preserved for players, even if they don't know the final form it will take.

Slightly off topic but relevant: has CCP Z emerged from his man-cave with Progression 4.0 yet?

3.0 from CPM perspective has not requested a meeting yet due to CCP Z's current ongoings. Soon as those are deal with we'll request one. (or he may beat us to that punch)

Understood.

Related: do you have your own personal progression plan still available wolf? Id like to tinker with it and items, then present it back to everyone on the forums for discussion, then pass it to Z to make money from it.

Specifically for legion?

Abandoned that and wanted to shift CCP Z's 2.0 into a certificate system while in actuality we stick to the original skill layout that can be accessed (expert mode)

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Faquira Bleuetta Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 428	Posted - 2014.08.03 07:52:00 - [31] - Quote Cass Caul wrote: hfderrtgvcd wrote: 843 Epidemic wrote: No blue tags anymore..? they canceled legion after realizing that it would never live up to the hype. Reminds me of another game ... I grow to like you more every time I see you post legion is going to be a pile of crap because they're going to make the same stupid mistakes they made with DUST. The controls are going to be crap, probably because it's the same person working on them. The maps are going to be these ineptly designed places with large swaths of open ground followed by condensed areas with structures. Leaving long and short range weapons the only ones that matter (medium range for purists and role players, and close range for specialists). There won't be enough players because CCP is too close-minded in their terrible Icelandic marketing philosophies that just don't work. And it is going to be full of more bugs than a termite nest because they lack both quality and quantity in their programmers. Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: Sarus Rambo wrote: Haven't seen anything new since the discussion on Sky spawning... Where are all the Devs? Working... Hopefully. Only, too bad they've probably been pulled away from Legion to help with some EVE project. urggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh rageeeeeeeeeeee hatttttttteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Egypt Musk VIVI NOS LUVS FAT CHICKS 194	Posted - 2014.08.04 16:21:00 - [32] - Quote OP FOTM wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: MR-NASTY wrote: Laser focused! Just need a green light to aim the laser at. Ah yes, 'laser focused'. Before you know it CCP will be developing for Wii. wii is dead... there is no wii anymore... just nostalgia and broken dreams BROKEN DREAMS I TELL YOU are you talking about the Wii or CCP? Nvr 4get what ccp did http://jestertrek.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/fanfest-day-two-red-wedding.html
Maximus Stryker Who Are Those Guys 1016	Posted - 2014.08.04 18:32:00 - [33] - Quote 843 Epidemic wrote: Has Legion development stopped? I hope not Best Idea For Legion
Lady MDK Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 124	Posted - 2014.09.02 17:28:00 - [34] - Quote Bumping to get more blue on page 1 Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following. I don't care so neither should you :)
zzZaXxx D3ATH CARD 467	Posted - 2014.09.02 20:47:00 - [35] - Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoBFhdeR9PE
Isaa Quade Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 589	Posted - 2014.09.03 00:20:00 - [36] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoBFhdeR9PE This one sums up all of CCP much better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyE4CLM0QIA My reaction to Legion
Jonny D Buelle Mors Effera 324	Posted - 2014.09.03 06:07:00 - [37] - Quote Spectre-M wrote: Wow. You know, this horse has been dead a looooong time. Could we finally bury it and stop digging it back up just to beat it again? Seriously, if CCP gave a flying frack about anything they would be showing you fanboys direct results. The only thing they care about is having a B actor (whom I love in BS) doing the voice for another game, which also may never see the light of day. This place is like hoggwarts, full of sad and unfunny ghosts of the past (no offence john cleese). But I just cleaned my shovel to dig it up... Legionhares Unite!
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3288	Posted - 2014.09.03 14:46:00 - [38] - Quote Its sad that this has been the only comment all day, these fourms are a ghost town :-( You can never have to many chaples -Templar True adamance
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 4137	Posted - 2014.09.03 17:36:00 - [39] - Quote Well the new CPM were recently filled in on Legion progress, and although they are not allowed to tell us anything, they do assure us that Legion development is still going full steam ahead. I assume that CCP has gone Black so that when they make the Greenlight announcement they can show lots of impressive progress, rather than just throwing out empty promises as they did during DUST development. They know the DUST community has become jaded. They know that we will no longer be impressed with promises and dreams. They know that they need to show solid progress if they want the Greenlight announcement to generate the hype they hope to get out of it! Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
IMMORTAL WAR HERO NECROM0NGERS 196	Posted - 2014.09.03 21:40:00 - [40] - Quote CCP Wolfman wrote: Still here x x for legion beta lol Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP

IMMORTAL WAR HERO NECROM0NGERS 196	Posted - 2014.09.03 21:41:00 - [41] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Last time I checked the stokers are still throwing fuel into the fire. can we donate gasoline? Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16342	Posted - 2014.09.04 00:28:00 - [42] - Quote IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Last time I checked the stokers are still throwing fuel into the fire. can we donate gasoline? Normally donators want something in return. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Advanced Large Blaster =// Unlocked
Ghural The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 309	Posted - 2014.09.04 00:33:00 - [43] - Quote Well going by the recent financial statement CCP is still putting money into it, so yeah it's still going. Personally I think it has been greenlit. What hasn't been greenlit is permission to share it with the rest of the community which I suspect it is due to the over-promising and under-delivering with Dust. I think CCP realizes that this is their last chance to show that they can deliver a compelling FPS experience.
SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 1051	Posted - 2014.09.04 00:54:00 - [44] - Quote Ghural wrote: I think CCP realizes that this is their last chance to show that they can deliver a compelling FPS experience. Dust/Eve transfers
Medic 1879 Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 2065	Posted - 2014.09.04 11:44:00 - [45] - Quote It would be nice to get some kind of information from the devs from time to time (or the CPM for that matter) I had hoped that with all this hotfix stuff going on and discussions about it CCP had learned their lesson about treating their playerbase like mushrooms. We have been told DUST it pretty much dead its getting balancing tweaks and thats about it, except for the reintroduction of some BPO suits (something they said they wouldn't do I might add) as a cash grab to attempt to milk DUST 1 final time. Yet despite them all but saying DUST will die completely when Legion comes out they do very little talking about legion either. Hopefully legion gets the go ahead and they announce it ASAP and use DUST as a beta (I know its a different system and developing for two could be a pain but until Legion is ready for alpha or beta stages DUST could be used to test concepts) this gives dust a purpose and may draw some players back but most importantly it would give the community hope that legion will be better than dust. Lead Diplomat for Forsaken Immortals.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3272	Posted - 2014.09.04 14:06:00 - [46] - Quote Medic 1879 wrote: It would be nice to get some kind of information from the devs from time to time (or the CPM for that matter) I had hoped that with all this hotfix stuff going on and discussions about it CCP had learned their lesson about treating their playerbase like mushrooms. The CPM can't really say much, just that things are still progressing. We've encouraged CCP to keep the community more informed. Quote: We have been told DUST it pretty much dead its getting balancing tweaks and thats about it, except for the reintroduction of some BPO suits (something they said they wouldn't do I might add) as a cash grab to attempt to milk DUST 1 final time. Simply not true. DUST is doing pretty well, and I'm confident CCP isn't ready to throw in the towel on DUST. Quote: Hopefully legion gets the go ahead and they announce it ASAP and use DUST as a beta (I know its a different system and developing for two could be a pain but until Legion is ready for alpha or beta stages DUST could be used to test concepts) this gives dust a purpose and may draw some players back but most importantly it would give the community hope that legion will be better than dust. I would think, at the very least, lessons learned in continued iterations of DUST can be taken to heart for Legion development. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Medic 1879 Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 2067	Posted - 2014.09.04 15:18:00 - [47] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Medic 1879 wrote: It would be nice to get some kind of information from the devs from time to time (or the CPM for that matter) I had hoped that with all this hotfix stuff going on and discussions about it CCP had learned their lesson about treating their playerbase like mushrooms. The CPM can't really say much, just that things are still progressing. We've encouraged CCP to keep the community more informed. Quote: We have been told DUST it pretty much dead its getting balancing tweaks and thats about it, except for the reintroduction of some BPO suits (something they said they wouldn't do I might add) as a cash grab to attempt to milk DUST 1 final time. Simply not true. DUST is doing pretty well, and I'm confident CCP isn't ready to throw in the towel on DUST. Quote: Hopefully legion gets the go ahead and they announce it ASAP and use DUST as a beta (I know its a different system and developing for two could be a pain but until Legion is ready for alpha or beta stages DUST could be used to test concepts) this gives dust a purpose and may draw some players back but most importantly it would give the community hope that legion will be better than dust. I would think, at the very least, lessons learned in continued iterations of DUST can be taken to heart for Legion development. See "Keep progressing" as informative as hitting me with a rolled up news paper for asking questions, "DUST is doing pretty well" for DUST its about same old isn't it really? for most other FPS's its pretty low activity although to be fair it is probably the most successful F2P FPS on PS3 . Hopefully lessons learned in DUST consist of 1, talk to your playerbase, 2, Allow your CPM to talk to the community about things aswell (relaxed NDA's) 3, Under no circumstances hint at big things and then reveal that the big thing is a giant pile of excrement you are dropping on your playerbase from a great height (Fanfest 2014). You know I respect you Soraya and I am certain you are doing your utmost to get CCP to be a bit more open mouthed about whats happening behind the scenes, but I like to have a good complain from time to time its my duty as an Englihman (along with drinking tea, plotting world domination, riding a penny farthing and the occasional dreaded being stuck behind someone in a long corridor and being utterly ashamed when you run out of different ways to say thank you after they have held door number 5 or 6 for you because you just know they are cursing you for being a despicable rogue.). Lead Diplomat for Forsaken Immortals.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3273	Posted - 2014.09.04 15:44:00 - [48] - Quote DUST's actually growing, technically. As you said, don't hint at big things, and then... not deliver (that sounds nicer, doesn't it?) and that is what CCP is trying to avoid. By, you know, just not hinting at all. I find this as irritating as you do, because I think it's taking it a bit too far, but the point is, they learned that lesson. Maybe a bit too well. The current way CCP is doing things, is to say things once they can deliver. From my personal view, it's good marketing to release tidbits periodically to maintain interest and demonstrate progress. I'd also definitely like CCP to commit to certain investments being preserved for players, even if they don't know the final form it will take. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 831	Posted - 2014.09.04 16:47:00 - [49] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: DUST's actually growing, technically. As you said, don't hint at big things, and then... not deliver (that sounds nicer, doesn't it?) and that is what CCP is trying to avoid. By, you know, just not hinting at all. I find this as irritating as you do, because I think it's taking it a bit too far, but the point is, they learned that lesson. Maybe a bit too well. The current way CCP is doing things, is to say things once they can deliver. From my personal view, it's good marketing to release tidbits periodically to maintain interest and demonstrate progress. I'd also definitely like CCP to commit to certain investments being preserved for players, even if they don't know the final form it will take. Slightly off topic but relevant: has CCP Z emerged from his man-cave with Progression 4.0 yet? Assault since Replication. We've come full circle. Finally.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16351	Posted - 2014.09.04 20:26:00 - [50] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: DUST's actually growing, technically. As you said, don't hint at big things, and then... not deliver (that sounds nicer, doesn't it?) and that is what CCP is trying to avoid. By, you know, just not hinting at all. I find this as irritating as you do, because I think it's taking it a bit too far, but the point is, they learned that lesson. Maybe a bit too well. The current way CCP is doing things, is to say things once they can deliver. From my personal view, it's good marketing to release tidbits periodically to maintain interest and demonstrate progress. I'd also definitely like CCP to commit to certain investments being preserved for players, even if they don't know the final form it will take. Slightly off topic but relevant: has CCP Z emerged from his man-cave with Progression 4.0 yet? 3.0 from CPM perspective has not requested a meeting yet due to CCP Z's current ongoings. Soon as those are deal with we'll request one. (or he may beat us to that punch) CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Advanced Large Blaster =// Unlocked

Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 831	Posted - 2014.09.04 20:29:00 - [51] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: DUST's actually growing, technically. As you said, don't hint at big things, and then... not deliver (that sounds nicer, doesn't it?) and that is what CCP is trying to avoid. By, you know, just not hinting at all. I find this as irritating as you do, because I think it's taking it a bit too far, but the point is, they learned that lesson. Maybe a bit too well. The current way CCP is doing things, is to say things once they can deliver. From my personal view, it's good marketing to release tidbits periodically to maintain interest and demonstrate progress. I'd also definitely like CCP to commit to certain investments being preserved for players, even if they don't know the final form it will take. Slightly off topic but relevant: has CCP Z emerged from his man-cave with Progression 4.0 yet? 3.0 from CPM perspective has not requested a meeting yet due to CCP Z's current ongoings. Soon as those are deal with we'll request one. (or he may beat us to that punch) Understood. Related: do you have your own personal progression plan still available wolf? Id like to tinker with it and items, then present it back to everyone on the forums for discussion, then pass it to Z to make money from it. Assault since Replication. We've come full circle. Finally.
IMMORTAL WAR HERO NECROM0NGERS 205	Posted - 2014.09.04 21:07:00 - [52] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Last time I checked the stokers are still throwing fuel into the fire. can we donate gasoline? Normally donators want something in return. watch stuff burn???? Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16352	Posted - 2014.09.04 21:22:00 - [53] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: DUST's actually growing, technically. As you said, don't hint at big things, and then... not deliver (that sounds nicer, doesn't it?) and that is what CCP is trying to avoid. By, you know, just not hinting at all. I find this as irritating as you do, because I think it's taking it a bit too far, but the point is, they learned that lesson. Maybe a bit too well. The current way CCP is doing things, is to say things once they can deliver. From my personal view, it's good marketing to release tidbits periodically to maintain interest and demonstrate progress. I'd also definitely like CCP to commit to certain investments being preserved for players, even if they don't know the final form it will take. Slightly off topic but relevant: has CCP Z emerged from his man-cave with Progression 4.0 yet? 3.0 from CPM perspective has not requested a meeting yet due to CCP Z's current ongoings. Soon as those are deal with we'll request one. (or he may beat us to that punch) Understood. Related: do you have your own personal progression plan still available wolf? Id like to tinker with it and items, then present it back to everyone on the forums for discussion, then pass it to Z to make money from it. Specifically for legion? Abandoned that and wanted to shift CCP Z's 2.0 into a certificate system while in actuality we stick to the original skill layout that can be accessed (expert mode) CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Advanced Large Blaster =// Unlocked
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 833	Posted - 2014.09.04 21:29:00 - [54] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: DUST's actually growing, technically. As you said, don't hint at big things, and then... not deliver (that sounds nicer, doesn't it?) and that is what CCP is trying to avoid. By, you know, just not hinting at all. I find this as irritating as you do, because I think it's taking it a bit too far, but the point is, they learned that lesson. Maybe a bit too well. The current way CCP is doing things, is to say things once they can deliver. From my personal view, it's good marketing to release tidbits periodically to maintain interest and demonstrate progress. I'd also definitely like CCP to commit to certain investments being preserved for players, even if they don't know the final form it will take. Slightly off topic but relevant: has CCP Z emerged from his man-cave with Progression 4.0 yet? 3.0 from CPM perspective has not requested a meeting yet due to CCP Z's current ongoings. Soon as those are deal with we'll request one. (or he may beat us to that punch) Understood. Related: do you have your own personal progression plan still available wolf? Id like to tinker with it and items, then present it back to everyone on the forums for discussion, then pass it to Z to make money from it. Specifically for legion? Abandoned that and wanted to shift CCP Z's 2.0 into a certificate system while in actuality we stick to the original skill layout that can be accessed (expert mode) Ah balls, I just have to roll from scratch then. Thanks though. Assault since Replication. We've come full circle. Finally.
Kaze Eyrou Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 581	Posted - 2014.09.06 20:15:00 - [55] - Quote ITT: Legion question is asked. A dev answers. 3 Laser Focused and a Wii joke. Stay classy guys. Closed Beta Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3294	Posted - 2014.09.07 19:00:00 - [56] - Quote Kaze what the hell are you on about lol You can never have to many chaples -Templar True adamance
Bat Shard0 Stardust Incorporation 63	Posted - 2014.09.08 16:27:00 - [57] - Quote CCP Wolfman wrote: Still here x Still there? http://dust514news.blogspot.com/
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9278	Posted - 2014.09.08 16:42:00 - [58] - Quote Bat Shard0 wrote: CCP Wolfman wrote: Still here x Still there? Poke it with a stick to see if it's still alive. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 2720	Posted - 2014.09.11 16:32:00 - [59] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Last time I checked the stokers are still throwing fuel into the fire. can we donate gasoline? Normally donators want something in return. In this particular case the donators want the game to be greenlit and not suck. I dont think thats too much to demand.
BAD FURRY Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 793	Posted - 2014.09.12 15:10:00 - [60] - Quote CCP Wolfman wrote: Still here x LOL O man Nice troll !! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!



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