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Mauren NOON
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Posted - 2014.07.14 04:05:00 -
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I just played a game of skirmish. I went 3/0(undesirable map...I was sniping) and I got 37,472 Isk.....W T F??? In what world does 37k Isk seem fair? If I got 50wp and got 37k I would still be mad. The cost of deployment would be at least 50k. Please increase Isk payout CCP.
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Mauren NOON
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Posted - 2014.07.14 04:38:00 -
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I didn't join late. I just got a lot of kill assists. And 3 kills. I got 500 and some odd wp. I was in top 10
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Posted - 2014.07.14 05:16:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:As stated above you most likely came in late, also you probably only had a small share of the points which the team scored. On to my next point. It is quite annoying seeing people that do not understand the payout system what so ever saying that it needs to be changed. The payout is created by the ISK destroyed in battle. Everyone in the game has the choice to raise payouts by spending more and destroying more. If you do not believe me then get a squad of 6 guys to Q sync against your squad and fight each other in full proto. What you will find is a significantly increased payout as long as you have a good share of the WP on both sides. Here is a link to one of the few times CCP was clear about a mechanic which explains the payouts very well. It is the useless ranting by forum warriors who have no idea the mechanics they are talking about which only feeds CCP's propensity for ****** changes. You are only making yourself look bad by whining about a situation which you have obviously not taken more than a moment to think about.
And as I stated, I didn't join late...and 2 of my kills were proto scouts...so if you know as much as you say you do about the payout system, why are 2 proto scouts worth less than 30k? Answers Einstein? And before you start stating people's idiocies or what you think to be idiocies, try to get more details but nice try kid
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Posted - 2014.07.14 05:26:00 -
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Seymour KrelbornX wrote:Mauren NOON wrote:I just played a game of skirmish. I went 3/0(undesirable map...I was sniping) and I got 37,472 Isk.....W T F??? In what world does 37k Isk seem fair? If I got 50wp and got 37k I would still be mad. The cost of deployment would be at least 50k. Please increase Isk payout CCP. why are isk pay outs garbage? in pubs? because pubs are garbage... and in that match apparently you were garbage too... I just went 30/14 got 2224 wp and made 465,000 isk running a dren logi suit w/remotes and links... my suit is 10,500 isk made over 300k.....
Good job for the wp. But I will never recognize anyone who uses remotes as a main weapon on their suit. And earlier today I went 25/9 with a std amarr scout with all militia. With no remotes. So your not as good as you think but still, nice work on the wp
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Posted - 2014.07.14 14:29:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Isks payouts too low?
Then do some **** to your team geez.
My every match, no matter if i play with proto or std (very rarely), and vs militia/proto guys. Im always getting 300-500k per match, no matter if i lose 0 isks or 2m isks.
And so do get every other players who plays in game.
Learn to make wp. Thats what gives you isks.
Killing is small part of money in pubs.
If ill go 30/0 in kill while not being 1-3 place and with wp only from killing, the payout will be lowered.
If ill make few kills (or +10) and make a lot of wp from hacking, destroing vehs/instalations then payout is at top place.
Roll out of redline and dont waste 1 of 16 slots next time.
EDIT: After reading guys before me. Yea thats right. But for most ppl you just need to tell that WP and place at the end means more isks.
Yea. Sorry for not being a mouse and keyboard sniper...but I will be the first to admit that I'm nowhere close to the best sniper. And I really don't need people saying I didn't get Isk for being a sniper. And those who think I was in the redline can rest at ease because I wasn't but I saw no reason to waste my time dying when 3/4 of my team was an NPC corp. the other team was stacked
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Posted - 2014.07.14 14:32:00 -
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aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote:Mauren NOON wrote:I just played a game of skirmish. I went 3/0(undesirable map...I was sniping) and I got 37,472 Isk.....W T F??? In what world does 37k Isk seem fair? If I got 50wp and got 37k I would still be mad. The cost of deployment would be at least 50k. Please increase Isk payout CCP. The really easy answer is its because you are a ****** sniper who doesnt make any wp.
Who are you? Don't mean to be rude but I don't need criticisms from a guy whose name is on the borderline of autism. That is all
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Posted - 2014.07.14 14:34:00 -
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But I really do appreciate the people that gave me a straight answer without spitting my kills in my face first :)
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Posted - 2014.07.14 14:37:00 -
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Jimmy Slapnuts wrote:Mauren NOON wrote:I just played a game of skirmish. I went 3/0(undesirable map...I was sniping) This is why. Mystery solved. Do more, contribute more, and you'll earn more. 
*sigh* I really am tired of saying this put listen slapnuts...I but down uplinks before I was sniping and got too many kill assists. Ended up with around 700 wp.
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Posted - 2014.07.14 16:48:00 -
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Mikey Ducati wrote:Mauren NOON wrote:I didn't join late. I just got a lot of kill assists. And 3 kills. I got 500 and some odd wp. I was in top 10 Truthfully your team sucked. Question, what do you expect to have been paid for a poor performance? I'm not getting on you but I'm just weighing in on the situation. You got 3 kills and some odd WP...and you were in the top ten. So that means your team wasn't on the field destroying like they should. The more goods destroyed, the better the pay. I would have paid you 37K too. A contractor doesn't pay you high for low quality work.
Yes my team did suck but I have AFK'ed and gotten more Isk...I don't understand why I got so little that time
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Posted - 2014.07.14 16:58:00 -
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Jimmy Slapnuts wrote:Mauren NOON wrote:Jimmy Slapnuts wrote:Mauren NOON wrote:I just played a game of skirmish. I went 3/0(undesirable map...I was sniping) This is why. Mystery solved. Do more, contribute more, and you'll earn more. *sigh* I really am tired of saying this put listen slapnuts...I but down uplinks before I was sniping and got too many kill assists. Ended up with around 700 wp. So, with ONLY 3 kills, some assists and a couple uplinks (which may or may not have been destroyed before earning you a single point - people have to actually spawn off them to benefit you after all), do you honestly think you deserve the same payout as someone who gets 20+ kills while pushing, capturing, and defending objectives? Or the Logi who's in the thick of the battle repping and re-supplying his team? No, you don't. Risk vs. Reward. You didn't put yourself at risk, you did very little to actually help your team, and therefore you didn't earn as much as those who did. If you want to sit safely up on your little hill, far away from the action, and snipe, then I'm sorry, you don't get to earn very much reward for that. Working as intended.
If I got around 700wp how would I get that much from 3 kills and kill assists? Think about it rationally...I at least got 15 spawns. So I don't know what you are getting at and I was in the redline. I have AFK'ed with 0wp and gotten more....the payout system is a wildcard.
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Posted - 2014.07.14 17:04:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:deezy dabest wrote:As stated above you most likely came in late, also you probably only had a small share of the points which the team scored. On to my next point. It is quite annoying seeing people that do not understand the payout system what so ever saying that it needs to be changed. The payout is created by the ISK destroyed in battle. Everyone in the game has the choice to raise payouts by spending more and destroying more. If you do not believe me then get a squad of 6 guys to Q sync against your squad and fight each other in full proto. What you will find is a significantly increased payout as long as you have a good share of the WP on both sides. Here is a link to one of the few times CCP was clear about a mechanic which explains the payouts very well. It is the useless ranting by forum warriors who have no idea the mechanics they are talking about which only feeds CCP's propensity for ****** changes. You are only making yourself look bad by whining about a situation which you have obviously not taken more than a moment to think about. The only time I don't run proto is when I can't afford it, which is around 200k per fit. I'm usually on the crap team of random newberries vs the organized team of protos. In a matchI usually get 10-20 kills which are likely ~200k fits as well and a couple of vehicles kills which have been more ADS' recently so that's around 300k+ a ship. When I am on the crap team I usually get most of the WP's being close to 2k a lot while the other top 5 haven't broke 1k and the rest are lucky to have more than 500 WP's; I'll usually get between 250k and 350k. Now if I don't die it's pure profit but usually I can die anywhere between 1-5 times and in the really bad games 10+ times. I know how the payout system works and it isn't impacted by "how much ISK you destroy" as much as you think it is. It's mostly your share of the team's total WP's that determines how much you get. I know this because back when Scotty often didn't completely fill a match before starting it; I got put in a couple of matches where it was 1-2 on my team vs 12+ guys. Didn't destroy a thing and only hacked one or two installations before retreating to the redline; I ended up getting over 1 mil for those matches because it was just me on the team or the other guys just AFK'd in the MCC. Adding a small modifier to the base payout isn't going to fck things up.
Thanks for the answer! :) glad to see not everyone turns the hate switch on when I mention sniping
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Posted - 2014.07.14 17:10:00 -
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calvin b wrote:Really. You think your mad. Here is the perfect example of BS. I went 42-5 over 4K WP came in second place and only made 300K+ while a tanker who cam in 4th made nearly 500K I have talked to other tankers and they always seem to make more than infantry. You get more kills, WP, and contribute more and you get a lower ISK payout because your infantry.
Want proof run a militia tank and compare it to your normal ISK payout and tell me there is not a pay difference.
I can see why you would be mad. That is complete BS...I feel for you. I don't feel tankers should be paid as much as infantry but that's a completely different topic
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Posted - 2014.07.14 19:31:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:In general isk payouts are bad in pub matches and vary so much I am not even sure how it is calculated.
I have been in battles where I have only got a modest kill / wp score and I clear 200k easily. Other battles I will get a really great amount of kills, WP, destroy expensive tanks, the odd proto suit and still somehow only come out with like 160-170k......
I've had the same happen.
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Posted - 2014.07.14 21:05:00 -
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I really don't ever use proto that why I have 100mil in my wallet
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