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castba
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Posted - 2014.07.15 00:29:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:... How do you transfer players over with 60-80 million skillpoints+ over without causing HUGE MASSIVE issues. Personally I can't think of a way to do it without nerfing them somehow or saying SCREW YOU to everyone joining in to the brand new game.
Too easy. New Legion characters start with 50,000,000SP and skills start at 1,500,000SP to learn.
That way all of us silly console players that threw money at dust will get to keep our SP and may also get a slight advantage if we grind from here on out.
Also a perceived benefit to "low" SP (<20m SP) dust players would be getting 10's of millions of SP just for moving to legion. Sure they would be starting over, but perception is everything... |
castba
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Posted - 2014.07.15 02:32:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:castba wrote:Bethhy wrote:... How do you transfer players over with 60-80 million skillpoints+ over without causing HUGE MASSIVE issues. Personally I can't think of a way to do it without nerfing them somehow or saying SCREW YOU to everyone joining in to the brand new game.
Too easy. New Legion characters start with 50,000,000SP and skills start at 1,500,000SP to learn. That way all of us silly console players that threw money at dust will get to keep our SP and may also get a slight advantage if we grind from here on out. Also a perceived benefit to "low" SP (<20m SP) dust players would be getting 10's of millions of SP just for moving to legion. Sure they would be starting over, but perception is everything... Your a real person? You can't... be.. ...No one could look at that problem with that many complex variables.. and just be like.. Well lets give EVERYONE s.hit tons of SP then. Easy fix right?  (Sarcasim) LIke WooooooooooooooW. DUST's forum discussions about balance in a nuttshell right there. Like my gawd... *P.S* and if your goal is to make a shark pool for only sharks... This creates a much bigger problem then characters that simply have alot of SP.... it creates a player skill gap that you could never balance. And having a group of players that perpetually play each other will drop all of their stats and eventually leave the walls of the pool pointless, as sharks will start to make their way into kiddie pools.
If a new legion character starts with 50m SP instead of the current 1m (or whatever it is now) and the cheapest skill to get to lvl 1 is 1.5m SP instead of 12k (or so), letting dust characters bring over their dust SP (60 mil using your example) would allow new legion players to be competitive from the get go yet give dust players a very slight advantage whilst still sticking to their word "all SP will be retained".
A "sh.t ton of SP" it is not a lot if skills cost a "sh.t ton of SP" to purchase.
I mentioned nothing of item/suit balance and there is no way to balance player skill (nor should there be).
Also, there is more than one "your" and they have different meanings, so if you must try to insult me, please take the time use the correct one. Thanks. |
castba
Merc-0107
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Posted - 2014.07.15 03:01:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:castba wrote:Bethhy wrote:castba wrote:Bethhy wrote:... How do you transfer players over with 60-80 million skillpoints+ over without causing HUGE MASSIVE issues. Personally I can't think of a way to do it without nerfing them somehow or saying SCREW YOU to everyone joining in to the brand new game.
Too easy. New Legion characters start with 50,000,000SP and skills start at 1,500,000SP to learn. That way all of us silly console players that threw money at dust will get to keep our SP and may also get a slight advantage if we grind from here on out. Also a perceived benefit to "low" SP (<20m SP) dust players would be getting 10's of millions of SP just for moving to legion. Sure they would be starting over, but perception is everything... Your a real person? You can't... be.. ...No one could look at that problem with that many complex variables.. and just be like.. Well lets give EVERYONE s.hit tons of SP then. Easy fix right? (Sarcasim) LIke WooooooooooooooW. DUST's forum discussions about balance in a nuttshell right there. Like my gawd... *P.S* and if your goal is to make a shark pool for only sharks... This creates a much bigger problem then characters that simply have alot of SP.... it creates a player skill gap that you could never balance. And having a group of players that perpetually play each other will drop all of their stats and eventually leave the walls of the pool pointless, as sharks will start to make their way into kiddie pools. If a new legion character starts with 50m SP instead of the current 1m (or whatever it is now) and the cheapest skill to get to lvl 1 is 1.5m SP instead of 12k (or so), letting dust characters bring over their dust SP (60 mil using your example) would allow new legion players to be competitive from the get go yet give dust players a very slight advantage whilst still sticking to their word "all SP will be retained".
A "sh.t ton of SP" it is not a lot if skills cost a "sh.t ton of SP" to purchase.
I mentioned nothing of item/suit balance and there is no way to balance player skill (nor should there be).
Also, there is more than one "your" and they have different meanings, so if you must try to insult me, please take the time use the correct one. Thanks. Thanks for making my brain hurt trying to even get into your world. Now I have to go and eat some aspirin just to look at my screen in a non blurred state.
I will help.
Hypothetically Legion SP =/= Dust SP. Just as Eve isk =/= Dust isk.
Make sense? |
castba
Merc-0107
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Posted - 2014.07.15 03:19:00 -
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Senator Snipe wrote:Quote:
I will help.
Hypothetically Legion SP =/= Dust SP. Just as Eve isk =/= Dust isk.
Make sense?
lol no. there is a HUGE difference between the 2 comparisons
How do you know? Where is the SP reward and progression shown for legion? Why assume it will be the same as Dust? Particularly as CCP have already stated and shown a very different skill progression. |
castba
Merc-0107
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Posted - 2014.07.15 03:50:00 -
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Senator Snipe wrote:castba wrote:Senator Snipe wrote:Quote:
I will help.
Hypothetically Legion SP =/= Dust SP. Just as Eve isk =/= Dust isk.
Make sense?
lol no. there is a HUGE difference between the 2 comparisons How do you know? Where is the SP reward and progression shown for legion? Why assume it will be the same as Dust? Particularly as CCP have already stated and shown a very different skill progression. what i'm sayin is that it would be ****** up. alot of hard effort and time was put into this ****.
Absolutely... Probably nothing to worry about, I mean it is not like CCP to screw around with the Dust player base. |
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