The assault class should get the ROF bonus for all assault suits.

Amarr - bonus to laser heat buildup

Caldari - increase to shield regen per level. (let the bonus be one that makes sense for the suit and is useful).

Gallente - increase to armor repair rate per level

Minmatar - increase to number of bullets (same bonus it has now)

This actually started in a Logi discussion thread, but it involves Assaults as well.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18i0Z93RGQbZD-_OMwXmYDJk4ORDBml5Xq_2k_4sF8UY/edit?usp=sharing

Thoughts? Its a very rough, preliminary proposal but its a starting point to getting the ball rolling.

Commandos have a damage bonus and that's not considered to be a problematic game mechanic.

EDIT: But to be fair I would prefer to see a move to make all suit bonuses affect a module rather than a base attribute. Again this is preliminary.

Do you feel that the requirement to use damage mods for all races would make some suits less suited for the role, given a lack of high slots? Or Would that make them better because it doesn't cut into their main tanking rack?

Plus I'd prefer to encourage the use of racial weapons to get the bonuses, so in a way you are sacrificing flexibility to gain damage on a specific race's weapon. Damage mods apply to all weapons and kinda screw certain suits out of proper fitting.

i consider it a loss. i run caldari assault and my current experimental fit looks like this:

2 complex extenders

2 complex energizers

2 complex regulators

1 complex cpu mod

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the problem i find with shield tanking is that you simply cant fight head to head. you must invest in the recharge. simply stacking extenders isnt as viable as people think. you wont have the hp of armor tanked scout let alone an assault suit. so you cant fight them that way.

we dont have shield reps. so theres no way to recover fight to fight as fast as a repped armor tanker can. we need our regen. that fit is about 87 shield hp/s and 377 shield hp. its enough to take a hit and get to cover. then return fire when your shields come back.

losing either the extenders or the recharge would break the fit as you would have enough hp to take a hit from anything really, or not enough regen to engage multiple targets rapidly.

shield tanking is tricky

Well at the same time the Assault is rather lacking in anything that makes it unique, so damage output should be a priority. Im not dead set on either, I understand the concern completely though.

So if we have say 10% bonus
1st damage mod increases damage to 15%
2nd is like 19%-ish

If we say doubled damage mods (Which is probably excessive)
1st 10%
2nd 18%-ish

So basically stacking mods is about the same either way at least for the first 2, but I really do worry this favors armor tanks too much, especially since a bonus to mods would make stacking more a lot more beneficial, plus it doesnt encourage racial matching as much.

I dunno man, I'm on the fence on this one but I'm leaning more towards flat bonus at this rate.

Flat bonus to reps, as in a +HP/second built into the suit?

Also I specifically avoided boosting the eHP of the Amarr on purpose, as a I feel it would quickly become too strong against the others. Its true that their theme is brick tanking, but I really wanted to keep away from boosting the eHP of one racial variant but not the others.

a general purpose reduction to weapon fitting costs, and a increase to light weapon fitting costs (its been mentioned elsewhere)

then an offensive assault bonus:

+1 grenade capacity for all suits. 5% per level to clip size, max ammo, reduced recoil, reload speed.

amarr and minmatar keep their current bonuses

gallente and caldari need something better though. honestly i think a damage bonus for the gallente would be fine, and a charge up time reduction for the caldari would be great.

and a racial defensive bonus

amarr: 5% per level to armor plate efficiency

gallente: 5% per level to armor repair efficiency

caldari: 5% per level to shield module efficiency

minmatar; 3% per level armor and shield efficiency.


someone else had posted about gallente getting a bonus to both armor reps, and reactive plates. and some feel that caldari should focus on shield extenders while minmatar should focus on shield regulators. i dont how i feel about that though. i feel shield tanking purely a caldari thing and they should get a bonus to all shield modules. thats just me though

so are we looking more towards:

1. better regen for assaults

2. a review of slot layouts

3. bonuses that enhance the "feel" of weapons without necessarily increasing their damage output

4. better racial bonuses for gallente and caldari

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so far these are the things that have come up generally