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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2014.07.10 14:28:00 -
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I have several Sentinel fittings, some with lots of Plates, some Rep tanked, and some Speedy ones, too.
I have had players tell me that they couldn't spot my Sentinel on their TacNet, but it's only when I use the Speedy guys (usually an Advanced Minmatar Heavy or the Minmatar Militia Heavy)
My Plated gK.0 may as well have the Scan Profile of an MCC, because you can see that thing from the opposite end of the map.
So, the question is: Does Armor raise your Scan Profile? Video proof?
(If it does, how the **** does an ADS or HAV, less than 10m away, go undetected by my maxed TacNet skills?)
PSN: The_Rynoceros
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BLOOD Ruler
The Lionheart Coalition
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Posted - 2014.07.10 14:41:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:I have several Sentinel fittings, some with lots of Plates, some Rep tanked, and some Speedy ones, too.
I have had players tell me that they couldn't spot my Sentinel on their TacNet, but it's only when I use the Speedy guys (usually an Advanced Minmatar Heavy or the Minmatar Militia Heavy)
My Plated gK.0 may as well have the Scan Profile of an MCC, because you can see that thing from the opposite end of the map.
So, the question is: Does Armor raise your Scan Profile? Video proof?
(If it does, how the **** does an ADS or HAV, less than 10m away, go undetected by my maxed TacNet skills?)
No but I wish it did so I could slash,kill blow up any who stand in my way.I be able to see anyone and if they have more armor then I could see and end that suit.
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2014.07.10 14:50:00 -
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It should be: more shield higher=scan profile.
PSN: ogamega
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2014.07.10 15:14:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:If it does, how the **** does an ADS or HAV, less than 10m away, go undetected by my maxed TacNet skills?
Because the TacNet is ineffective, clunky, and needs it's own dedicated hotfix just to function properly.
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.07.10 15:17:00 -
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TacNet is stupid.
Also, if armor had a profile penalty, I'm done, that's it, no more DUST for me.
I don't feel like having heavies spot me on the TacNet because I decided I don't want to be paper thin in my Gallente Assault 
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Nirwanda Vaughns
426th Infantry
638
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Posted - 2014.07.10 15:30:00 -
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if i remember in the early days using shield extenders used to increase scan profile.
it woul dmake sense that increased mass increased profile and the magentic field of shields makes them more detectable but also having the armor plates slow you down is enough penalty.
Rolling with the punches
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Cody Sietz
SVER True Blood
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.07.10 15:39:00 -
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It be cool if they did.
Or maybe plates could lower precision/range since the extra plating messing with internet radar. Extenders could raise your scan profile.
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The-DON of-DOT-MAFIA
The DOT MAFIA
42
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Posted - 2014.07.10 15:50:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:It should be: more shield higher=scan profile.
Why? Oh yes, because that is EVE lore.
This is an example of evetardedness.
The NAVY moves the MARINES around in RL, and that is where similarities end.
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Operative 1125 Lokaas
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2014.07.10 16:01:00 -
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The-DON of-DOT-MAFIA wrote:shaman oga wrote:It should be: more shield higher=scan profile. Why? Oh yes, because that is EVE lore. This is an example of evetardedness. The NAVY moves the MARINES around in RL, and that is where similarities end.
It is a game. A game made by CCP. CCP created lore for racial combat styles. That lore is used in both games. It is the basis for their games. Nuff said.
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uptown456
Dark Taboo
423
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Posted - 2014.07.10 16:13:00 -
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It doesn't work that way, but should
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.07.10 16:13:00 -
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Typically its shields because they're a radiation which is so infinitely harder to mask over non emitting armor.
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2014.07.10 17:25:00 -
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This a consistent anomaly, that I'm sure could be proven true if tested.
If you have a capture card and need a test subject, add me on PSN and we can work on it.
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
4073
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Posted - 2014.07.10 19:23:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Typically its shields because they're a radiation which is so infinitely harder to mask over non emitting armor.
^This
Also a while ago I proposed a Dampening Armor Plate
It gave a little bit of Armor and a little bit of dampening.
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Zindorak
CaUsE-4-CoNcErN
73
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Posted - 2014.07.10 19:25:00 -
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Umm what is this TacNet? |
Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
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Posted - 2014.07.10 20:19:00 -
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The-DON of-DOT-MAFIA wrote:shaman oga wrote:It should be: more shield higher=scan profile. Why? Oh yes, because that is EVE lore. This is an example of evetardedness. The NAVY moves the MARINES around in RL, and that is where similarities end.
Technology is technology. There are plenty of similarities between the Navy and the Marines as well. Similar weaponry, but on different scales, for example.
You can't try to disconnect the games in a ******** way, like saying that even though plasma in eve has the shortest range, it should have the longest range in Dust because "they're different games"
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.07.10 20:21:00 -
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Stealth plates was a thing in eve.
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Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
2413
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Posted - 2014.07.10 20:23:00 -
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The-DON of-DOT-MAFIA wrote:shaman oga wrote:It should be: more shield higher=scan profile. Why? Oh yes, because that is EVE lore. This is an example of evetardedness. The NAVY moves the MARINES around in RL, and that is where similarities end.
Funny thing, i've never played EVE if not the trial.
It's just logic, shield is a electromagnetic barrier, have you ever heard a buzz noise near the high voltage cables?
Do i have to continue the story? i'm not so good in english, i can't find the words.
PSN: ogamega
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Meisterjager Jagermeister
Red and Silver Hand
Amarr Empire
297
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Posted - 2014.07.11 14:02:00 -
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Or the exact opposite logic makes sense.
The current canon holds that heavy suits appear on tacnet easier than light suits suggesting MASS is the determining factor in the scanability of a dropsuit.
Shields have no mass being of electromagnetic radiation (or whatever the non-scientific lore is) therefore have no effect on scan profile.
Armor plates add mass to a dropsuit so THEY should increase scan profile.
This would deter tanked scouts as they no longer have stealth capabilities with a scan profile higher than a medium.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
2057
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Posted - 2014.07.11 14:15:00 -
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The-DON of-DOT-MAFIA wrote:shaman oga wrote:It should be: more shield higher=scan profile. Why? Oh yes, because that is EVE lore. This is an example of evetardedness. The NAVY moves the MARINES around in RL, and that is where similarities end.
lolno
Corpsmen?
Or do you like dying?
I like how you said "evetardedness" when you meant "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! I DON'T WANNA HAVE CONSISTENCY!!!!!"
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2014.07.11 14:41:00 -
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Apparently, context clues are lost.
I'm not suggesting that it should be implemented, I'm suggesting that it already is.
Queue up against a friend.
You deploy in a MLT Heavy - no Plates, no Extenders
Player 2 deploys in an Assault, or non-EWAR modded fitting of your choice.
Player 2, Check the Passive Scans.
Now, Redeploy in an Armor tanked Sentinel.
Player 2, Check the Passive Scans again.
As previously stated, I have my Passive Scan skills maxed as did my last test subject.
I don't know how much of an effect this has on the experiment, that is why I leave it in your hands.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
2457
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Posted - 2014.07.11 14:51:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Umm what is this TacNet?
Essentially the radar on screen that detects other players.
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Forlorn Destrier
Vengeance Unbound
2671
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Posted - 2014.07.11 14:53:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:I have several Sentinel fittings, some with lots of Plates, some Rep tanked, and some Speedy ones, too.
I have had players tell me that they couldn't spot my Sentinel on their TacNet, but it's only when I use the Speedy guys (usually an Advanced Minmatar Heavy or the Minmatar Militia Heavy)
My Plated gK.0 may as well have the Scan Profile of an MCC, because you can see that thing from the opposite end of the map.
So, the question is: Does Armor raise your Scan Profile? Video proof?
(If it does, how the **** does an ADS or HAV, less than 10m away, go undetected by my maxed TacNet skills?)
The way it should work is the way that Eve does it:
1) Armor plates ---> decreased speed
2) Shield extenders ---> increased scan profile
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
2058
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Posted - 2014.07.11 14:55:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Rynoceros wrote:I have several Sentinel fittings, some with lots of Plates, some Rep tanked, and some Speedy ones, too.
I have had players tell me that they couldn't spot my Sentinel on their TacNet, but it's only when I use the Speedy guys (usually an Advanced Minmatar Heavy or the Minmatar Militia Heavy)
My Plated gK.0 may as well have the Scan Profile of an MCC, because you can see that thing from the opposite end of the map.
So, the question is: Does Armor raise your Scan Profile? Video proof?
(If it does, how the **** does an ADS or HAV, less than 10m away, go undetected by my maxed TacNet skills?) The way it should work is the way that Eve does it: 1) Armor plates ---> decreased speed 2) Shield extenders mods in general ---> increased scan profile
FYP
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