DUST Search - I gotta say, I'm kind of shocked at the Amarr Logis.

deezy dabest wrote:

Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

THUNDERGROOVE wrote:

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

I got a titan for its AOE DD your point?

Not being an EVE player, but I was under the assumption that the AOE DD was changed because it rekt everything?

I just don't understand the need to change this.

Go back to my first post in this thread again then and I want you to seriously think about introducing every single class in dust 514 with these stupid nuances in weapon arrangement between every race and tell me its fine line of thinking.

EQ and Weapon slots while having the weakest weight in terms of balance meta scores you have to understand that unlike normal high and low slots these slots are multipliers in their effect of the overall score.

Great. You can't honestly tell us our sidearm slot is OP, and we want to keep it.

If it sucks then you should be happy because it means less balancing!

I'm going to throw a tantrum if it gets removed.

Well, more of one.

It is obvious from IWS persistent pedaling of the idea that our side arm is getting removed. I am only questioning what my response is going to be. On one hand I am glad to see them working to balance things but seeing balancing by making everything as close to the same as possible even if it means breaking the ground work that was originally laid is just a flash back to CCPs band aid mentality. This is just a look back at what lead to the amazing blunder that was fanfest and the start of me going from a huge supporter of this game monetarily to none at all.

IWS I hope you win CPM again, atleast CCP has their strings tied so tight that we can see from your actions what they plan on doing.


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Mortedeamor Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1799	Posted - 2014.07.10 10:36:00 - [1] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: You can't sit here and tell me that his is not a real trade off. Please, it's balance we are talking about here. You can't get a side arm+a extra slot+extra equipment. Gotta choose something here guys! yeah i choose for ccp to leave my ***** logi alone..its bloody perfect and they are ruining it how about this ccp leave it the alone...leave it with 1 less slot leave it with a sidearm and with one less equipment..set it down walk the away..and dont ever look backk.. unless theres a ***** reason. a logi is fine..you wanna change the other logis/...and buff them...fine do it leave a-logi out of it
Mortedeamor Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1799	Posted - 2014.07.10 10:38:00 - [2] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: THUNDERGROOVE wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I got a titan for its AOE DD your point? Not being an EVE player, but I was under the assumption that the AOE DD was changed because it rekt everything? I just don't understand the need to change this. Go back to my first post in this thread again then and I want you to seriously think about introducing every single class in dust 514 with these stupid nuances in weapon arrangement between every race and tell me its fine line of thinking. EQ and Weapon slots while having the weakest weight in terms of balance meta scores you have to understand that unlike normal high and low slots these slots are multipliers in their effect of the overall score. Great. You can't honestly tell us our sidearm slot is OP, and we want to keep it. If it sucks then you should be happy because it means less balancing! I'm going to throw a tantrum if it gets removed. Well, more of one. It is obvious from IWS persistent pedaling of the idea that our side arm is getting removed. I am only questioning what my response is going to be. On one hand I am glad to see them working to balance things but seeing balancing by making everything as close to the same as possible even if it means breaking the ground work that was originally laid is just a flash back to CCPs band aid mentality. This is just a look back at what lead to the amazing blunder that was fanfest and the start of me going from a huge supporter of this game monetarily to none at all. IWS I hope you win CPM again, atleast CCP has their strings tied so tight that we can see from your actions what they plan on doing. personally this announcement rekilled whatever kept me going in this game....i though i was done after fanfest..i left for months came back and bravo was just so much better they made so much better..and now this...complete 180 back to ruining the game ..nice i swear i think they are doing it on purpose no one can be this thickheaded... so much for dust getting better
Mortedeamor Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1802	Posted - 2014.07.10 11:01:00 - [3] - Quote Scar Scrilla wrote: THUNDERGROOVE wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I am having a hard time understanding the logic behind the needs to have a side arm. Its along the same grounds as taking away minmatar grenade slots. Subbing Gallmando's second light weapon for a side arm. And giving Min logi two side arms instead of 1 light. If we had to introduce the class (under the context it never existed before) in charlie and not since the start we'd be mocking the mere stupidity of giving one class a side arm. Because over a year ago, I got the Amarr logi *because* of the sidearm and nothing more. Same here. As the suit's description says: "It's also the only logistc suit to have a sidearm". Why the hell would you change that? You better see to the suit's droplink skill to work properly ... its the only reason i got one as well..i actually used a minmatar suit for links before the other logi patch. i wanna respec of my logi suit all my logi gear except nanos which i would have gotten for assault anyway and a respec of my sidearms except one of my choosing as i am specced into sidearms solely for that suit... i like running dual sidearms on a logi because it can have more fitting that way..a few of my rigs require 2 sidearms over 1 light 1 sidearm these changes are not needed these changes are stupid but apparently our cpm likes them so hey they most be great and perfect for the game.. even though our cpm never plays and sucks ass at dust..repeatedly give the worst input whoever came up this idea of taking logi versatility away..should be taken out and shot..along with whoever suggested ccp **** with logis////instead of assaults for this hotfix
Mortedeamor Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1803	Posted - 2014.07.10 11:30:00 - [4] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Alright, so to actually give proper context. This is solely about equalizing the slot numbers and equipment ability for all the logistics. The sidearm slot for Amarr logistics isn't causing any specific concerns However, I am actually open to the possibility of adding a second logistics variant (using the same skills, think the old Type-II) for all races that has an equipment slot traded for a sidearm, plus possibly a few base stat nerfs (not sure what yet, I'm just a little worried that these new logistics would crowd out actual assault suits). However, that's a fair bit of extra work. Thoughts? no, no new logis...leave the amar logi alone leave it with 3 equip and 1 less slot and a sidearm advantage... it doesnt ruin anything...if your an assault and you get **** up by the amar logi your a *** scrub period if your an amar assault and you get owned ina duel by an amar logi your a ***** scrub...of that logi is just that much better than you. why do you wanna fuckin do this no one asked for this it fixes no problem... what issue does the amar logi have..that makes it need this? i say the amar logi functions 100% perfectly within its role... you wanna equalize the logis///all i hear is you wanna take away more versatility...what disadvantage does the amar logi put the other logis at right now? because the amar logi isnt ata disadvantage.. i dont know what issue yall are trying to balance with these absurd changes but this isnt the way to do it..you should put this issue on the threads for discussion. so we could have told this isnt the way to do it...and i really hope unlike past times..you pull your heads out of your asses when you public outcry and rethink this stupid idea. you know im trying to be polite here ive said what i have to say..yall where making great progress..you brought me back after fanfest...and now your taking a step backwards...stop it rethink this open it for discussion.... let us talk about it why are you doing this? what is this supposed to fix? what imbalance is this fixing?