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Zaria Min Deir wrote:

CCP Rattati wrote:

I'm sorry but our data shows that logis outnumber assaults by a huge margin. Nothing about this change will make logis worse at being logis.

Such a bad reason to nerf something. Because there are many people using it, it must be nerfed? wtf? Really?
This would be the same reason the AR was kept so weak in comparison to other rifles for so long, right? And this was the same logic behind "data seemed to suggest that the SCR is UP", as relatively few people were using it? But now you yourself have attempted to balance the rifles NOT according to just how many people use them, but actual performance.

So why do the logi suits need to be nerfed based on how many people use them? Also, once again, I and many others have said this many many times, the assault suits being weak is not the logi suit's fault, it just means the assault suits need a buff. Nerfing logi suits will do absolutely nothing to fix the assault suits. The reason there are so many people NOT using the assault suits is because CCP has refused to buff the assault suits for over a year now, even though anyone playing the game knows they need it, and need it badly.

Guess what. Nothing about your proposed changes to logis will make assaults better at being assaults, either.

You DO realize that the dropsuit is the single most expensive thing in the game (for infantry, at least) to skill into. So when skilling into a suit, you are committing to using it it for quite a while before you can get another one. So, yes, many people have chosen to spec into a logi suit instead of an assault, NOT because the logi suit is a great assault suit, but because the assault suit is bad.

Also. As a min logi, with my CCP prescribed rep tool, I currently struggle keeping up with the OP heavies that I'm supposed to rep. I can't stack on much more speed, because I'm already paper thin, but I can't brick tank either (even if I wanted to) because then there is no way I can keep up with the heavies that stack kin cats instead of plates, as most of the good heavies have realized they don't really need plates anymore, thanks to all the buffs. And you want to make me even slower. Really? Thanks, Rattati, you're such a pal.

Time to retire the rep tool, I guess.

Oh, and. As I thankfully got rid of my Amarr logi when 1.8 hit, I don't really gaf, but taking away the sidearm... such BS. So, you planning on reimbursing the sidearm skill tree for all Amarr logis?


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Zaria Min Deir Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo 738	Posted - 2014.07.10 01:27:00 - [1] - Quote My thoughtsin short: Rattati's reason for wanting to nerf logis is that more people use logis than assaults. Bad logic and bad excecution. Speed reduction is absolutely unnecessary. Removing the Amarr sidearm is a bad call. Longer from the main post: Zaria Min Deir wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I'm sorry but our data shows that logis outnumber assaults by a huge margin. Nothing about this change will make logis worse at being logis. Such a bad reason to nerf something. Because there are many people using it, it must be nerfed? wtf? Really? This would be the same reason the AR was kept so weak in comparison to other rifles for so long, right? And this was the same logic behind "data seemed to suggest that the SCR is UP", as relatively few people were using it? But now you yourself have attempted to balance the rifles NOT according to just how many people use them, but actual performance. So why do the logi suits need to be nerfed based on how many people use them? Also, once again, I and many others have said this many many times, the assault suits being weak is not the logi suit's fault, it just means the assault suits need a buff. Nerfing logi suits will do absolutely nothing to fix the assault suits. The reason there are so many people NOT using the assault suits is because CCP has refused to buff the assault suits for over a year now, even though anyone playing the game knows they need it, and need it badly. Guess what. Nothing about your proposed changes to logis will make assaults better at being assaults, either. You DO realize that the dropsuit is the single most expensive thing in the game (for infantry, at least) to skill into. So when skilling into a suit, you are committing to using it it for quite a while before you can get another one. So, yes, many people have chosen to spec into a logi suit instead of an assault, NOT because the logi suit is a great assault suit, but because the assault suit is bad. Also. As a min logi, with my CCP prescribed rep tool, I currently struggle keeping up with the OP heavies that I'm supposed to rep. I can't stack on much more speed, because I'm already paper thin, but I can't brick tank either (even if I wanted to) because then there is no way I can keep up with the heavies that stack kin cats instead of plates, as most of the good heavies have realized they don't really need plates anymore, thanks to all the buffs. And you want to make me even slower. Really? Thanks, Rattati, you're such a pal. Time to retire the rep tool, I guess. Oh, and. As I thankfully got rid of my Amarr logi when 1.8 hit, I don't really gaf, but taking away the sidearm... such BS. So, you planning on reimbursing the sidearm skill tree for all Amarr logis? However, the WP for different tiers of nanite injectors is a good change, should have happened a long time ago. On my logi suit, I don't bring a needle if I can't fit the proto :P I detest the WP whores who use a basic injector just so that they can then get more triage points., though this change won't affect that, in all likelihood. Have you considered installing the improved keyboard? "Go Go Power Rangers!"