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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
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Posted - 2014.07.10 07:57:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:In the thousands and thousands of matches played since the beginning of Dust ... Have infantry AV squads every ROFL stomped a match?
But, but it might happen.
Because, that's why.
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TechMechMeds
Inner.Hell
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Posted - 2014.07.10 09:10:00 -
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Suchy soundish logicses.
Just like every other Englishmen, I bath in tea, have no teeth and live in a castle.
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Mortedeamor
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1799
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Posted - 2014.07.10 10:41:00 -
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Mikey Ducati wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:He's letting me down with these logi changes Amen brother
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.07.10 10:47:00 -
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You have got to be kidding me, right? Ambush is the worst game mode to have vehicles in, the maps are simply not designed for it.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Justice Prevails
279
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Posted - 2014.07.10 13:24:00 -
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As an AVer, very disappointed that they removed them. A better fix would have been to give people a choice of which ambush mode to play. Main reason I skilled into commando was to be able to fight infantry and vehicles at same time. Ambush provided a nice quick game mode where I could do that without worrying about objectives.
Embracing my inner scrub since 2013.
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Gelan Corbaine
Gladiators Vanguard
470
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Posted - 2014.07.10 14:31:00 -
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Atiim wrote:There's a reason why Vehicle Pilots aren't entitled to Ambush Contracts, and it's because the game mechanics (such as the "Smart" Spawn and Map Design) inside of Ambush caused vehicles to be inherently overpowered.
What design mechanics in Skirmish allow AVers to be theoretically invulnerable, while killing Vehicles with ease regardless of tactics they attempt to utilize?
Also, CCP effectively banned Swarm Launchers from Ambush, but do you see AVers complaining?
I'm complaining ..... I LIKE hunting in OMS with both my Forge and SwarmMinmanndo. I never had a problem with vehicles in OMS . ( Reg Ambush was another story.) OMS gives me a quick match to hunt when I don't want to dedicate myself to long Dom and Skirm matches for considerably less money for my time investment.
No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.07.10 14:35:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:In the thousands and thousands of matches played since the beginning of Dust ... Have infantry AV squads every ROFL stomped a match?
Uprising 1.0-1.6 all match every match Srsly? Swarms and Forge Guns dominated every aspect of a match?
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Mojo XXXIII
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
457
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Posted - 2014.07.10 15:26:00 -
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Nothing Certain wrote:Atiim wrote:There's a reason why Vehicle Pilots aren't entitled to Ambush Contracts, and it's because the game mechanics (such as the "Smart" Spawn and Map Design) inside of Ambush caused vehicles to be inherently overpowered.
What design mechanics in Skirmish allow AVers to be theoretically invulnerable, while killing Vehicles with ease regardless of tactics they attempt to utilize?
Also, CCP effectively banned Swarm Launchers from Ambush, but do you see AVers complaining? I'm raising my hand. I don't like Ambush without vehicles and I don't see that it has stopped one team from dominating the other most matches.
I'll also raise my hand.
I don't like the idea of my dedicated AV character being excluded from any game mode, even by proxy because, if they remove vehicles from a game mode, then they also, by extension, also remove any reason for a dedicated AV player to play that same game mode.
It's bad enough that I've noticed a significant decrease in the number of vehicles to fight in Dom and Skirmish since Bravo. Sure, I wasn't happy with my Swarm Launchers prior to the hotfix, and I don't mean to complain about them being fixed, but at least I had something to shoot them at.
Now I find it difficult to justify logging in at all with my specialized AV characater, when I only really need AV for a few minutes every second or third match.
I guess I'll switch back to my Logi if I want to be useful, because my AV character is beginning to feel obsolete.
At least until they (potentially) mess THEM up with the NEXT hotfix. |
Hynox Xitio
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2014.07.10 17:04:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:This thread went into an entirely different direction than I wanted. Don't reply, let it die.
Don't tell me what to do.
Unleash the Fogwoggler, follow your dreams.
( -íº -£-û -íº) /)
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dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
3083
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Posted - 2014.07.10 17:12:00 -
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"They that **** the post, shall reap the whirlwind"
Rick : And remember, this gun is pointed right at your heart.
Captain Renault : That is my least vulnerable spot
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PANDA UZIMAKI
SINISTER DEATH SQUAD
51
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Posted - 2014.07.10 17:34:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:If vehicles aren't in every mode, what use would AV have in those modes?
Any modes without vehicles should be without AV right?
Unless there is a joke here I am not getting. Then its on me. people use forgeuns on people I say roughly 40% of the time. don't expect to not see AV just because vehicles aren't around hell people still would be trying to use forge guns even without any thing to blow up :) |
PANDA UZIMAKI
SINISTER DEATH SQUAD
51
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Posted - 2014.07.10 17:42:00 -
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Atiim wrote:@Harpyja
I'm killing off threads like these before they start. I'd rather not have a "Nerf Swarms" campaign because some scrub can't pull 80/0 scores by simply standing still and letting reps do the work for him. If I have to be "too serious", then so be it.
Smart Spawn isn't limited to V/AV situations, but V/AV situations were where they did the most harm to players.
That only works if the pilot willingly allows for him to be near an Infantry spawn location, which is an issue of incompetence (while common with vehicle pilots, is in no way a valid argument when discussing balance). Though if multiple players decide to work together to destroy something, it should die very quickly.
Only 2m SP? Good luck taking down anything other than a Tourist, let alone trying to fit a Swarm Launcher without having to run crappy modules on your Dropsuit.
Not really. The primary (and in most AVers cases, only) source of income and WP is from the destruction of vehicles, meaning that it's removal guarantees that they won't be able to be successful in any fashion in Ambush, to the same extent of Vehicle Pilots. Also, the investment is far beyond 2m SP, so I'll just laugh at the rest of that paragraph as it has no credibility.
I'm grabbing a bite to eat, but I'll be back soon to remove the credibility from your 2nd post as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qR0Uke2XNI
The great Spartan king then looks back towards his queen. she nod's her head in approval to vanquish the AV scum. |
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