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Harpyja Legio DXIV 2032	Posted - 2014.07.09 22:17:00 - [1] - Quote Because of this: CCP Rattati wrote: In my opinion vehicles should never have been in Ambush. Simple. It's not because they are unbalanced or other reasons. I would be happy to have a vehicle only mode but that's never going to happen, due to how vehicles are brought into the game, and optimization problems. I just don't think vehicles are entitled to be in every mode. We would only be punishing vehicles if they were banned from all game modes. Well, then here's what I think. I don't think infantry AV should be entitled to be in every mode either. Vehicle specialists can't kill infantry in ambush? Fine. Then infantry AV specialists shouldn't be able to kill vehicles, in say, skirmish. Edit: link "By His light, and His will"- The Scriptures, 12:32 -- "Scouts should fart repeatedly while cloaked"- TechMechMeds
Harpyja Legio DXIV 2033	Posted - 2014.07.09 22:19:00 - [2] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Very mature approach. I commend you. I hope you got my sarcasm "By His light, and His will"- The Scriptures, 12:32 -- "Scouts should fart repeatedly while cloaked"- TechMechMeds
Harpyja Legio DXIV 2033	Posted - 2014.07.09 22:29:00 - [3] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: If vehicles aren't in every mode, what use would AV have in those modes? Any modes without vehicles should be without AV right? Unless there is a joke here I am not getting. Then its on me. Well the point I was trying to make here was that if vehicle pilots are outright banned from interfering with infantry in one gamemode, then infantry AV should be outright banned from interfering with vehicles in another. Obviously, though, I do not want such a game mode where vehicles can go about killing infantry without any infantry AV on the field. The real point I was trying to make here was that no single playstyle should be banned from participating in any one game mode. "By His light, and His will"- The Scriptures, 12:32 -- "Scouts should fart repeatedly while cloaked"- TechMechMeds
Harpyja Legio DXIV 2039	Posted - 2014.07.10 01:29:00 - [4] - Quote Can't believe you took this so seriously.... Atiim wrote: There's a reason why Vehicle Pilots aren't entitled to Ambush Contracts, and it's because the game mechanics (such as the "Smart" Spawn and Map Design) inside of Ambush caused vehicles to be inherently overpowered. What design mechanics in Skirmish allow AVers to be theoretically invulnerable, while killing Vehicles with ease regardless of tactics they attempt to utilize? Also, CCP effectively banned Swarm Launchers from Ambush, but do you see AVers complaining? Smart spawn causes greater problems overall, it's not limited to just vehicles vs infantry. If you argue that vehicles are inherently overpowered in ambush due to the game mechanics, then I can argue the same where AV can be overpowered against vehicles in skirmish. I mean, in skirmish, you can choose where to spawn, so you just need to get one or two more people in AV suits to spawn with you near a tank and unleash hell on it. It'll be dead before it can even realize that some AV'ers just spawned in close proximity together. Also, how much SP is realistic to be spent into swarm launchers for a high end level? 2 million? Let's say 2 million. How much SP do vehicles require to get to a high end level? Let's say 10 million (I actually have about 20 million but I'm going to give a generous 10 million). Banning vehicles in ambush is a much greater slap in the face for vehicle specialists than for random Joe-Bob who spent 2 million into swarm launchers. I have just over 20 million SP in total. Let's say Joe-Bob also has 20 million SP in total. Joe-Bob has all his SP into infantry, while all of mine (bar about half a million) are into vehicles. Joe-Bob can still play with the rest of his 18 million SP in ambush, while all of my 20 million SP is useless in ambush and I'm no better than someone fresh out of the Academy. Therefore, you cannot make the argument that AVers are not complaining that SLs are effectively banned in ambush, because their loss is not comparable to what a vehicle specialist loses. "By His light, and His will"- The Scriptures, 12:32 -- "Scouts should fart repeatedly while cloaked"- TechMechMeds
Harpyja Legio DXIV 2040	Posted - 2014.07.10 01:49:00 - [5] - Quote Atiim wrote: There's a reason why Vehicle Pilots aren't entitled to Ambush Contracts, and it's because the game mechanics (such as the "Smart" Spawn and Map Design) inside of Ambush caused vehicles to be inherently overpowered. What design mechanics in Skirmish allow AVers to be theoretically invulnerable, while killing Vehicles with ease regardless of tactics they attempt to utilize? Also, CCP effectively banned Swarm Launchers from Ambush, but do you see AVers complaining? Ok, let me give it to you straight. Poor game mechanics should be treated, not their symptoms. You shouldn't cry to remove vehicles from ambush because the game keeps spawning you in front of a large blaster. When was the last time you saw a rail tank go 30-0 --- when was the last time you saw a missile tank go 30-0 --- in ambush? Large blasters and armor reps were nerfed rather hard (in conjunction). Triple rep Maddies are no longer capable of repping through AV. Large blasters can't kill a heavy in a timely manner unless under 20 meters (and even then it's not timely because I have to stop and let dispersion settle down because it is that great). If that heavy has an Ishukone Assault FG, I either have to run for it or commit to engage him within 20 meters. He's especially lethal at such close proximity because now AV grenades see some action. Or how about the last time you saw an LAV get the most kills? Just STFU Atiim, your arguments have always been poor and flawed. Do the community a favor and STFU. "By His light, and His will"- The Scriptures, 12:32 -- "Scouts should fart repeatedly while cloaked"- TechMechMeds
Harpyja Legio DXIV 2041	Posted - 2014.07.10 01:52:00 - [6] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: But... infantry are banned from harming vehicles in ambush. Have you ever seen a tank die to an ASL in Ambush since Bravo released? I can never touch your tank there. The point was that infantry will be able to run around like headless chickens in ambush without any vehicle interference. Then it should only be fair that vehicles can do their thing without any AV interference elsewhere "By His light, and His will"- The Scriptures, 12:32 -- "Scouts should fart repeatedly while cloaked"- TechMechMeds

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