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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.07.10 00:34:00 -
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Ive got something for Rattati that eve players like to say: "dont fix thats not broken" I cannot see a reason why logis should receive another revamp. They are fine how they are at the moment and using a cloak on a logi suit is just as legit as using a heavy with 2 sidearms. Both doesnt work and is stupid. |
Eko Sol
Strange Playings
576
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Posted - 2014.07.10 00:45:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Ive got something for Rattati that eve players like to say: "dont fix thats not broken" I cannot see a reason why logis should receive another revamp. They are fine how they are at the moment and using a cloak on a logi suit is just as legit as using a heavy with 2 sidearms. Both doesnt work and is stupid.
Throw that statement into the thread/link in my sig. It looks like it's on deaf ears between Ratatti and IWS.
My current hope, if any, is that they discuss it more and wait until delta for Logi changes.
Post Distaste for A-Logi changes in Charlie here:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2249908#post2249908
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Atiim
Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire.
10340
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Posted - 2014.07.10 00:47:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: The Amarr logi in my mind is the ultimate anti-vehicle suit .
Then your mind is tainted.
Long Live The Anime Empire
"You know what? You really, REALLY, like to dampen the mood" - Lea Silencio
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
3664
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Posted - 2014.07.10 01:04:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: The Amarr logi in my mind is the ultimate anti-vehicle suit .
Then your mind is tainted.
Agreed. I tried it for a while even back when swarms were a little OP and tbh, I switched to using a basic Amarr med frame. Naturally the Minmando totally outclasses everything else right now, though I do like the gallente scout I made with swarms, re's, AV nades, AND a cloak. It's pretty fun.
(The godfather of tactical logistics)
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
3481
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Posted - 2014.07.10 01:14:00 -
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Eko Sol wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Ive got something for Rattati that eve players like to say: "dont fix thats not broken" I cannot see a reason why logis should receive another revamp. They are fine how they are at the moment and using a cloak on a logi suit is just as legit as using a heavy with 2 sidearms. Both doesnt work and is stupid. Throw that statement into the thread/link in my sig. It looks like it's on deaf ears between Ratatti and IWS. My current hope, if any, is that they discuss it more and wait until delta for Logi changes. Doesnt really matter. They wont listen to what i say or the 100 other guys that are against it. |
Mikey Ducati
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.10 01:16:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote: Doesnt really matter. They wont listen to what i say or the 100 other guys that are against it.
The depressing truth. |
Eko Sol
Strange Playings
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Posted - 2014.07.10 01:18:00 -
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What is funny is that in this thread, the OP doesn't even know the slot layout for his own logi and didn't even shell out an idea. Then Ratatti blue tagged it asking for "other good ideas". He didn't even have an idea in the first place. Not to mention that the cal logi gets an extra module slot for the sacrificed equipment slot. You know as well as I do how many people have like 2 complex shields, 2 damage mods, 1 shield energizer, some combo of regulator, dampener, cpu, and pg boost and just slay EVERYTHING.
Not to mention the 5 damage mod cal logi snipers. Yeah, they don't get ANYTHING special LOL
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=167740&find=unread
Post Distaste for A-Logi changes in Charlie here:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2249908#post2249908
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aaaasdff ertgfdd
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
76
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Posted - 2014.07.10 01:19:00 -
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Mikey Ducati wrote:The dark cloud wrote: Doesnt really matter. They wont listen to what i say or the 100 other guys that are against it.
The depressing truth. Where are the requests coming from for this nerf though? |
Vicious Minotaur
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Posted - 2014.07.10 01:21:00 -
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Not a fan of the suggested Logi- nerfs.
If they are to take place, then I shan't take my Amarr alt past level 1 Amarr Logistics. No point. The sidearm is the only redeeming quality, especially since the bonus only applies to your uplinks IF YOU DON'T DIE. Even if I respawn in the same exact suit, my bonus is broken and have to re-drop my uplinks.
And never mind that logis are already slow, especially if they armour tank so they can survive while repping (also known as being a sitting duck, with no weapon and a glowing sign that says "Shoot this person!"). I have a hard time keeping up with people in my Minmatar Logistics, especially if I make any attempt to use my rep-tool bonus.
Not a fan. Not a fan at all... But whatever. Nerf a class that is not causing problems. Alter things to the point people want a respec. Address non-issues and ignore player feedback. At the end of the day, you are just shooting yourself in the foot. So be my guest...
I am a minotaur.
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Atiim
Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire.
10340
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Posted - 2014.07.10 01:24:00 -
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Lol at whoever thinks that Speed Reductions are needed.
Did anyone honestly look at the speed, and say that 5m/s is too fast?
Long Live The Anime Empire
"You know what? You really, REALLY, like to dampen the mood" - Lea Silencio
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Eko Sol
Strange Playings
579
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Posted - 2014.07.10 01:24:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:Not a fan of the suggested Logi- nerfs.
If they are to take place, then I shan't take my Amarr alt past level 1 Amarr Logistics. No point. The sidearm is the only redeeming quality, especially since the bonus only applies to your uplinks IF YOU DON'T DIE. Even if I respawn in the same exact suit, my bonus is broken and have to re-drop my uplinks.
And never mind that logis are already slow, especially if they armour tank so they can survive while repping (also known as being a sitting duck, with no weapon and a glowing sign that says "Shoot this person!"). I have a hard time keeping up with people in my Minmatar Logistics, especially if I make any attempt to use my rep-tool bonus.
Not a fan. Not a fan at all... But whatever. Nerf a class that is not causing problems. Alter things to the point people want a respec. Address non-issues and ignore player feedback. At the end of the day, you are just shooting yourself in the foot. So be my guest...
Not to mention I have reported, numerous times, that the uplink bonus will (sometimes) fail to apply even if you didn't die or lose the suit. I got no word back.
It's really sad man. The player base is only getting smaller. It isn't growing. At some point they have to understand that they have co workers that are trying to feed their kids. Experiment with Legion, let us have Dust the way we want.
At the very least, I think they should have more discussion and wait for logi changes until Delta. If we had more time for it to sink in. more time to ask for logi respect then I'll be happy.
Post Distaste for A-Logi changes in Charlie here:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2249908#post2249908
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Eko Sol
Strange Playings
579
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Posted - 2014.07.10 01:26:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Lol at whoever thinks that Speed Reductions are needed.
Did anyone honestly look at the speed, and say that 5m/s is too fast?
IWS even said that the A-Logi can fit kinkats. 2 complex kinkats make it as fast as the base min scout I THINK. I might have to try when I get off of work. If I recall it was either like 8.1-ish or a high 7.x-ish. It just doesn't work.
I think ratamaq had it right. I think that CCP wants to nerf logis so people go assault. Unfortunately, they will go scout or pop a kinkat on a commando. Actually, I would argue that it will ultimately be either Min Logi or no logi after Charlie if this all gets "fixed".
Post Distaste for A-Logi changes in Charlie here:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2249908#post2249908
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aaaasdff ertgfdd
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
77
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Posted - 2014.07.10 01:34:00 -
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Eko Sol wrote:Atiim wrote:Lol at whoever thinks that Speed Reductions are needed.
Did anyone honestly look at the speed, and say that 5m/s is too fast? IWS even said that the A-Logi can fit kinkats. 2 complex kinkats make it as fast as the base min scout I THINK. I might have to try when I get off of work. If I recall it was either like 8.1-ish or a high 7.x-ish. It just doesn't work. I think ratamaq had it right. I think that CCP wants to nerf logis so people go assault. Unfortunately, they will go scout or pop a kinkat on a commando. Actually, I would argue that it will ultimately be either Min Logi or no logi after Charlie if this all gets "fixed". IWS should have no input in this game. He rarely plays. Hes horrible when he does play, and how that dude ever became appointed to the cpm ill never know. I killed him 10 times in one game wearing a basic min assault with std combat rifle. Hes absolutely terrible. This can not be a legitimate opinion about anything in this game. I know it sounds bad to say. But if you absolutely suck at a thing how can you be the person giving relevant information about that thing when you obviously, do not understand it enough to be proficient at it. I dont knkw about his input but ive been seeing his name pop up around this subject. |
Vicious Minotaur
1064
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Posted - 2014.07.10 01:35:00 -
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Eko Sol wrote:Vicious Minotaur wrote:Not a fan of the suggested Logi- nerfs.
If they are to take place, then I shan't take my Amarr alt past level 1 Amarr Logistics. No point. The sidearm is the only redeeming quality, especially since the bonus only applies to your uplinks IF YOU DON'T DIE. Even if I respawn in the same exact suit, my bonus is broken and have to re-drop my uplinks.
And never mind that logis are already slow, especially if they armour tank so they can survive while repping (also known as being a sitting duck, with no weapon and a glowing sign that says "Shoot this person!"). I have a hard time keeping up with people in my Minmatar Logistics, especially if I make any attempt to use my rep-tool bonus.
Not a fan. Not a fan at all... But whatever. Nerf a class that is not causing problems. Alter things to the point people want a respec. Address non-issues and ignore player feedback. At the end of the day, you are just shooting yourself in the foot. So be my guest... Not to mention I have reported, numerous times, that the uplink bonus will (sometimes) fail to apply even if you didn't die or lose the suit. I got no word back. It's really sad man. The player base is only getting smaller. It isn't growing. At some point they have to understand that they have co workers that are trying to feed their kids. Experiment with Legion, let us have Dust the way we want. At the very least, I think they should have more discussion and wait for logi changes until Delta. If we had more time for it to sink in. more time to ask for logi respect then I'll be happy.
Indeed.
I can get behind the changes to scouts/heavies/assaults, because there has been ample feedback and discussion on those topics.
But this logistics change? Right out of left field. No discussion, nothing. At least solicit feedback and discussion before metaphorically pissing on us.
I am a minotaur.
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Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
2237
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Posted - 2014.07.10 01:39:00 -
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Honestly, I like a lot of what you said, but my chief concern is the glitched links. That's the only reason I specced into Amarrican Logi.
Betty White, the worlds hottest grandma.
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Mortedeamor
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1803
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Posted - 2014.07.10 11:16:00 -
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aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:There is no reason to discuss this outside of the Feedback thread really... I like you Rat, you get **** done, but without General, Discussion threads like this the word just doesnt get out. My main account, Infinite Diversity plays all roles, weapons, and suits. I have 60 mil sp and I can tell you that this is a non issue. Logis are not a problem. Not like that anyway. Who is complaining about Logis? I mean every game I play has 10 scouts and 6 of something else. Look man bottom line is this dont start down this path of making all the suits the same. We like unique slot characteristics, and things like that. Im telling you this train of though is a mistake, this should not be the mentality of someone looking for balance. Why is this even being considered?
seriously most peeps only look at gd..i know i do..so there isa reason for it to be doubly posted here...
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SHANN da MAN
D3LTA FORC3 C0VEN
250
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Posted - 2014.07.10 18:01:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:There is no reason to discuss this outside of the Feedback thread really... Welcom to the wonderful world of Forums ... where everyone wants their thoughts to be heard first ... so they post a new thread instead of being buried deep inside someone else's
nothing to see here ... move along
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