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          VALCORE72 
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        Posted - 2014.07.09 17:03:00 -
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          why is it a gal scout can hide with cloak and 2 damps from a cal scout with 3 prec cplx ? shouldnt they balance each other out ? even 4 is not picking it up . did ccp screw up again ........... | 
      
      
      
          
          hfderrtgvcd 
          Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2014.07.09 17:07:00 -
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          Being able to scan others is more useful than being hidden from others. If you can scan others you dont need health since your entire squad can see them. Thats why a caldari scout needs to make larger sacrifices than the gal. Also, a gallenete scout needs three complex profile damps to be completely hidden. | 
      
      
      
          
          VALCORE72 
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        Posted - 2014.07.09 17:17:00 -
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          we tryed that . gal scout can still run 2 cats and be almost impossible to hit when throwing RE around . something just feels off . cant put my head on it . im not sure what it is . balance if them two just feels off . im not sure | 
      
      
      
          
          Adipem Nothi 
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        Posted - 2014.07.09 17:23:00 -
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          VALCORE72 wrote:why is it a gal scout can hide with cloak and 2 damps from a cal scout with 3 prec cplx ? shouldnt they balance each other out ? even 4 is not picking it up . did ccp screw up again ...........   Working as intended. The GalScout is the only Scout capable of beating all scans.
 
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          VALCORE72 
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        Posted - 2014.07.09 17:29:00 -
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          soo if i run 5 cplx prec he should have to run 4 damps and a cloak right ? | 
      
      
      
          
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        Posted - 2014.07.09 17:37:00 -
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          VALCORE72 wrote:soo if i run 5 cplx prec he should have to run 4 damps and a cloak right ?   Best Possible Precision is 15 dB 15 dB - GalLogi + Focused Scanner 15 dB - CalScout + 4 cPEs
  Best Possible Profile is 11 dB 11 dB - GalScout + 4 damps + proto cloak (on) 13 dB - GalScout + 3 damps (or 4 damps) 16 dB - GalScout + 2 damps 20 dB - GalScout + 1 damps 27 dB - GalScout + 0 damps
 
 
  Precision values are rounded to the nearest whole number. Ties always favor the scanner.
  To find out where your 5 cPE suit fits in to the above scale, assemble it at www.protofits.com and check the Scan Profile value under 'fitting summary'.
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          Bormir1r 
          Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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        Posted - 2014.07.09 17:38:00 -
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          Adipem Nothi wrote:VALCORE72 wrote:why is it a gal scout can hide with cloak and 2 damps from a cal scout with 3 prec cplx ? shouldnt they balance each other out ? even 4 is not picking it up . did ccp screw up again ...........  Working as intended. The GalScout is the only Scout capable of beating all scans.  
  I wish the other scouts, excluding Cal, could temporarily avoid scans, at least for the Min, since it relies on guerrilla warfare and "hit and run" tactics.
 "One does not simply" run like a Raptor. Only mk.0 Scouts do that. 
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          Bormir1r 
          Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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        Posted - 2014.07.09 17:40:00 -
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          Adipem Nothi wrote:VALCORE72 wrote:soo if i run 5 cplx prec he should have to run 4 damps and a cloak right ?  Best Possible Precision is 15 dB15 dB - GalLogi + Focused Scanner 15 dB - CalScout + 4 cPEs Best Possible Profile is 11 dB11 dB - GalScout + 4 damps + proto cloak (on) 13 dB - GalScout + 3 damps (or 4 damps) 16 dB - GalScout + 2 damps 20 dB - GalScout + 1 damps 27 dB - GalScout + 0 damps 
 Precision values are rounded to the nearest whole number. Ties always favor the scanner. To find out where your 5 cPE suit fits in to the above scale, assemble it at  www.protofits.com and check the Scan Profile value under 'fitting summary'.  
  What's the numbers for the Min scout when it get dampened?
 "One does not simply" run like a Raptor. Only mk.0 Scouts do that. 
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          VALCORE72 
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        Posted - 2014.07.09 17:46:00 -
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          kk so heres the test we did . gal scout 2 cDap cloak . go cloak . and see what we found . it hides from all scanners . maybe we did something wrong. iam hoping to get a blue tag on this to confirm. everything you wrote we had down . something didnt add up | 
      
      
      
          
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        Posted - 2014.07.09 17:48:00 -
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          Bormir1r wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:VALCORE72 wrote:soo if i run 5 cplx prec he should have to run 4 damps and a cloak right ?  Best Possible Precision is 15 dB15 dB - GalLogi + Focused Scanner 15 dB - CalScout + 4 cPEs Best Possible Profile is 11 dB11 dB - GalScout + 4 damps + proto cloak (on) 13 dB - GalScout + 3 damps (or 4 damps) 16 dB - GalScout + 2 damps 20 dB - GalScout + 1 damps 27 dB - GalScout + 0 damps 
 Precision values are rounded to the nearest whole number. Ties always favor the scanner. To find out where your 5 cPE suit fits in to the above scale, assemble it at  www.protofits.com and check the Scan Profile value under 'fitting summary'.  What's the numbers for the Min scout when it get dampened?  
  Minmatar Scout (max skill) 14 db - 3 damps + proto cloak (on) 16 dB - 3 damps 18 dB - 2 damps 24 dB - 1 damps
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        Posted - 2014.07.09 17:53:00 -
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          VALCORE72 wrote:kk so heres the test we did . gal scout 2 cDap cloak . go cloak . and see what we found . it hides from all scanners . maybe we did something wrong. iam hoping to get a blue tag on this to confirm. everything you wrote we had down . something didnt add up   Yep. It dips below 15 dB with a proto cloak (on)
  14 dB - GalScout + 2 damps + proto cloak (on ... 10% bonus) 15 dB - GalScout + 2 damps + adv cloak (on ... 5% bonus) 16 dB - GalScout + 2 damps
  Why do you need a blue tag to do your math? Go to www.protofits.com ... it'll calculate everything for you.
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          Aramis Madrigal 
          SVER True Blood Dark Taboo
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        Posted - 2014.07.09 17:55:00 -
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          VALCORE72 wrote:kk so heres the test we did . gal scout 2 cDap cloak . go cloak . and see what we found . it hides from all scanners . maybe we did something wrong. iam hoping to get a blue tag on this to confirm. everything you wrote we had down . something didnt add up  
  Is this active or passive scanning? If active, is the scanner a proto Gal logi? If passive, does the passive scanner have max skills? Is he a Cal scout or something else? 
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          VALCORE72 
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        Posted - 2014.07.09 17:59:00 -
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          yea max skills cal scout . well rerun the test and ill post up later today . tell yea every thing we did | 
      
      
      
          
          VALCORE72 
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        Posted - 2014.07.09 18:13:00 -
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          LOL nm guy didnt have max skill. my bad you were right | 
      
      
      
          
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        Posted - 2014.07.09 18:25:00 -
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          VALCORE72 wrote:LOL nm guy didnt have max skill. my bad you were right    np bro. o7
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