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CUSE TOWN333
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Posted - 2014.07.09 15:26:00 -
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RR is by far the most under powered rifle in the game hence why you never see it in a PC match. my whole suit was made around the RR as i run caldari assault. got to understand that on paper DPS and range don't all ways work out in game. it takes to long to get thru someones shield giveing them plenty of time to get to cover.
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Posted - 2014.07.09 19:19:00 -
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JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:RR is by far the most under powered rifle in the game hence why you never see it in a PC match. my whole suit was made around the RR as i run caldari assault. got to understand that on paper DPS and range don't all ways work out in game. it takes to long to get thru someones shield giveing them plenty of time to get to cover. The killfeed disagrees. I also disagree. I have tried all of the rifles and the rr is crazy melt city. The cr is powerful but doesnt really feel op although ive never tried the assault cr. I wonder if the rr damage profile works right because it seems to rip through shields just as fast as armor yes the gun does work well in pub matchs because most players are in low ter dropsuits with low HP. the killfeeds in PC all ways look different in PC than pubs because all the OP guns are used in PC. try to fight a caldari scout with a assault combat rifle in a PC battle with your rail rifle then tell me how great the gun is. plus you need to understand that the rail rifle works in pubs because everyone is no where near the objectives sitting on a roof or hill picking people off with a rail rifle but try to get near the fight with the gun and you will get ripped apart by combat rifles HMGS and shotgun scouts. plus the charge up time does not matter in pubs because the bad players your shooting at have slow reactions.
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Posted - 2014.07.09 22:27:00 -
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Temias Mercurial wrote:aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote:Atiim wrote:Falloff Damage to hamper effectiveness in CQC is being considered by CCP. Source: CCP Rattati wrote:Temias Mercurial wrote:I still think that the rail rifle should have an effect similar to the laser rifle's close up reduced damage, as it's suppose to be a long range weapon, but is still ludicrously good at CQC due to it's damage output. That's exactly what I wrote in my notes not 2 hours ago. Thats ridiculous, if they do that it will never be used. Its rail tech damage doesmt fall off up close. You give it more charge up time, a smaller clip, less amo overall. Something like that, if you make the damage magically fall off in cqc the weapon will be useless. Bc of the slow rate of fire its not that great in cqc compared to the cr for sure, id say for anyone who can strafe its not that good vs a plasma rifle either. Then how come I can do just fine with it in cqc... keeping the hipfire reticule on them is fairly easy. Increasing the charge up time would do nothing, reducing the magazine size is pointless, and why even bother with ammo capacity? I think what everyone is freaking out about is the actual range of where it 'magically fall off". I only said that it should be similar, not exact to the laser rifle. The laser is surprisingly good at close range, I've killed plenty of people with it. what some people are actually complaining about is they are running around out in the middle of a field like a fool and they get gunned down by a rail rifle at range so they cry nerf to be able to run around like a fool again. i no longer use the gun because of the last nerf they did to it even tho its the gun my assault suit gets a bonus to.
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Posted - 2014.07.10 17:58:00 -
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:IVIaster LUKE wrote:hfderrtgvcd wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Headline reads: "Long range weapon kills people from long range, QQ ensues."
Again, OP, why don't you ever post on your main? Did you even read what I wrote? I suggested less damage up close or more recoil to make it more difficult to use in CQC, I am fine with it doing well at long range. Im using an alt because my main is banned. How are you going to induce more recoil in CQC without nerfing long range effectiveness? How will the Rail Rifle be able to tell a CQC target from a Long Range target, when you engage? Fine lets scrap the recoil idea. The rail rifle will just have reduced damage from say, 0-10 meters. It will then steadily increase until it does maximum damage at its optimal. just stop there is nothing wrong with the gun in fact compaired to the other rifles its not that great. if you find yourself dieing a lot to a rail rifle you may just be a bad player and need to get good.
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Posted - 2014.07.10 22:26:00 -
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Temias Mercurial wrote:aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote:Temias Mercurial wrote:Charge up time does nothing when you prefire around walls and cover. It's no longer a factor when that is possible. Reducing the magazine size would be too large of a nerf with an automatic weapon. The point of this discussion is to give the rail rifle a weakness! It doesn't have one! Its too good at any range. There's also no point in using the STD over the Militia rail rifle (again, reducing the magazine from 45 to 36 did not decrease it's effectiveness). There are no draw backs to this weapon. It kills up close, and at range. Nearly every weapon has its weakness, while the rail rifle does not... This dude just said the weapon has no weakness bc it kills in its optimal range. Its optimal is the same as any other gun you idiot accept the rails is simply longer. So rail guns on tanks and vehicles would do less the closer you got as well? You have no concept of ranges or balance... do you? Balance suggests that a long range weapon should be only good at long range, yet it's good up close as well, which isn't balanced; therefore it has no weakness. go into a PC battle and get in the city in CQC then come back and tell me how good the rail rifle is up close. stop trying to balance guns off of pub matchs where the players your killing are noobs that have no HP on there suit.
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